Three Amigos III

posted by Mike Boone at 11h49 EST on Feb 17


The original Canadiens party animals were Chris Chelios, Shayne Corson and Peter Svoboda.

Three Amigos the Sequel featured José Theodore, Pierre Dagenais and Mike Ribeiro.

Now Jean Perron is suggesting  Carey Price, Christopher Higgins and Sergei Kostitsyn are the current incarnation of the Three Amigos.

Perron cites "reliable sources" and says he's gone public and outed the alleged bad boys because he blames Chelios et al for getting  him fired and doesn't want the same fate to befall Guy Carbonneau.

Jacques Demers says the Canadiens are aware they have a problem and are dealing with it.

The post-practice scrums today should be a treat.




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J. Ambrose's picture
This has been fairly well-known amongst many in the city, me included, for awhile. The lads are frequent attendees at a certain St. Laurent resto-bar and have been known for partying late and hard (and it ain't just drinking, my friends). I figured it would come out eventually. Mtl is a small city, really. The Habs have been dealing with it, but it makes one wonder if Carbo wasn't sending a message to Price by leaving him in for the 7 goals last week. To you from falling hands, we throw the torch.

BoomBoomMax's picture
I know it doesn't look smart to throw a one-liner like that but what the Hell! PERRON IS ABSOLUTE DOUCHE! ____________________________ "F*ck it Dude! Let's go bowl!"

J. Ambrose's picture
He definitely is that. This was an internal affair that Gainey has had to deal with amongst everything else, and then this jerk decides to make it public out of spite or just to make himself look in-the-know. Classless! To you from failing hands, we throw the torch.

Habbu's picture
Maybe it was just a Coke Zero?

Hammer's picture
This entire topic is an embarrassment. This is no more than trash journalism and Boone and all are hiding behind "reliable sources". If the Habs were on a five game winning streak, there would be not a whisper. If you actually know something Mr. Boone et all, say it and name sources. If not go work for ET talk, National Enquirer as they too throw S**T using " reliable sources".

Bahamut-Prime's picture
Lots of people of seen Sergei out (most often frequenting Buanotte) but I've heard much less about Price and Higgins besides some crazy rumors that should not be repeated. Price is supposed to be the good country boy but it's not too hard to imagine the good country boy being overwhelmed by the big city where he stakes his claim for money and fame.

Willy the bum's picture
Hey guys, you know what?! With all that Schneider craze, why not bring back reliable defenseman Chelios back here? The Red Wings are not using him, and he got a couple of years left in his system, so he should have his career ends with a big bang... WHY NOT! MR. GAINEY, BRING CHELIOS HERE AGAIN! AND MAYBE CLAUDE LEMIEUX... :D ---------- "Old-time hockey?" - Steve Hanson (Slap Shot)

i have a cop friend that saw higgens and price doing coke on the bar in the south shore

TommyB's picture
What a prick-shot post. You know a guy, who knows a guy, who saw.....internet anonymity is a great thing, eh! And besides, like someone else has said here, why didn't this "cop friend" do his duty? You've been a "member" of this site for 2 whole hours......big surprise there.

Tommy, who in God's name with an ounce of God-given skill would want to be drafted by this bum-*** franchise now? ***, I'd be prouder to be picked by the Leafs!

Greg's picture
no offense, but is this one of those things where YOU have a cop friend? Or a guy you know has a cop friend that saw Higgy and Price doing coke on a bar? In a city where rumours about the Habs come from the ether, I think Higgins and Price are smart enough and know enough about the media to do cocaine at least in the bathroom, not on a bar in front of a bunch of people. Also, shouldn't your cop friend have arrested them for possession of narcotics? Unfounded rumours are pointless and tarnish reputations, unless they're about trades...which Higgins has in spades too.

Bahamut-Prime's picture
The rumors about coke are what a were referring to when I said rumors that should not be repeated. We already had one big problem there with Theodore we can't have that happen again.

mjames's picture
Mike Boone What is the point of your post? If these guys are a problem then get rid of them. Somehow I don't think they are. Maybe they want out of from Carbo. If we do get rid of them Carbo will come up with another three amigos to blame. Incidentally it would be nice if someone wrote something on the coaches. What is their role in the team's current performance ? Stubbs reports that Carbo says he is still employing the same system as he was at the beginning of the year. Can someone who has access to him please ask what is that system? One last thing, Carbo is a first class a-hole for blaming the Vancouver loss on Halak. I wish Gainey would step forward. I actually hope that Washington skates us out of the rink. It would like to bring this torture to an end. The team's current performance is not all the fault of the players. Yes they have role but it is not all their fault. It would be nice if Boone , Stubbs , Hickey said something about this. mjames

Fant-HAB-ulous's picture
I'm all for a good party... But when you play affects your work, then there's a problem. And I like what Jacques Demeres said, and I totally agree...it pisses veterans off when their 20 year counterparts are partying so hard that it affects their play. NHL hockey is a job, just like mine – except sadly my employer doesn't want to pay me millions :) If I started sucking at my job, and my boss found out I was out all night, I think he'd be pissed. Right now, all three of those guys suck at their job.

ross's picture
I assume it's a colloquialism, but what does "Sport du Lit" mean in that Demers article?

Fant-HAB-ulous's picture
It's the name of a TV Show (or maybe radio show). So it doesn't really mean anything..it's just the title. I guess if you are asking the meaning of the title, I would say that it is implying that it is the final word on sports, "putting the issue to rest" ? But that's just my anglo guess :)

solsub's picture
Very sensible post. Probably the best one in this thread. I agree %100.

Fant-HAB-ulous's picture
Thanks :)

Why shoot the messenger? Peron isn't the one both behaving and playing badly, is he? They are adults and this is professional sports. They can do what they want but there's a price to pay for taking your eye off of the prize. You want to act like you're in a beer league while you're being paid millions to play a game, you'll find yourself in a beer league fast enough. Ask Derek Sanderson. I'd prefer it if there were some respected veteran players who could just kick their silly a$$es. This is MY team, ya little jerks! This is the Montréal Canadiens you're screwing up!

Boone, out of sheer curiousity, what was Perron coaching in Israel?

Perron's reliable sources is probably the same stripper that gave Price a lap dance 10 minutes before Perron. (I won't use the Avery's famous remark even if I really want to)

mrhabby's picture
perron sounds like a bitter old dude, miserable.

I thought Geoffrion, Moore & Johnson were the "Original" Three Amigos.....

Chuck's picture
True, but their partying didn't affect their play on the ice.

TommyB's picture
Perron blames Chelios et al for getting him fired? As I remember it, back during the '86 run, Gainey and Robinson walked into Perron's office, sat him down and told him he didn't know how to coach the team. They offered him an alternative system to employ...that,and Patrick Roy, got Jean Perron his Cup ring. It wasn't his coaching ability. I noticed J.T. mentioned something similar earlier in her post on this topic. She says Perron asked Gainey and Robinson for help. I heard it this way. Either way, Perron should just gaze at his ring and shut up.

smiler2729's picture
Who is this "Jean Perron" guy anyway? A coach in the vein of the Bernie Geoffrions, Bob Berrys and Mario Tremblays, coaches who couldn't hack it except Perron fluked out a Stanley Cup win (merci, Patrick Roy). Perron is the Steve Penny of Habs coaches.

smiler2729's picture
I never forgave Serge Savard for trading away Chris Chelios for Denis Savard. Yeah, we won the Cup (Chicago lost in their Final appearance to the Pens) but so what, we lost that trade in the long run. And why was Chelly traded? Because he loved the Montreal nightlife (who doesn't?) Was his play terrible? No. Does Chicago have a bad nightlife? No. It was another dumb trade to appease a coach (Pat Burns)...

A man goes out and has some drinks and gets laid, does getting lucky mean something else in Montreal these days.

Norm0770's picture
If the guys start doing the Derek Sanderson like drunken interviews, THEN there might be a problem.

jrmatheson....Remember Darryl Strawberry and Dwight Goodin In New York .Two young and Brilliant talents dropped in the middle of baseball crazy Newyork. The high flyers wore them around their neck like bling until the high life began to catch up to them and all its dirty habbits.A sport crazy city can eat a young kid up that way and the Canadien Brass might want to take note just in case the fast movers and shakers in this city are looking to up there profile by wearing some bling from the montreal canadiens.

Steve in Kingston's picture
Um, why would a young player play in Montreal if he can't party? Why would a young Hab not go out, get wrecked, and get laid? Take the Montreal out of the Habs and you have Toronto, or even Salt Lake City. I advise everyone to zip-it and let lads be damn great lads.

Gary320's picture
Exactly. It's just everywhere because the team is losing and one guy see's one player drinking and goes "OH HE SHOULD BE TRAINING BECAUSE HIS TEAM IS LOSING" Yet when the team is winning.. it's "OH GUESS WHO I SAW TODAY I SAW PRICE. HE'S SO AWESOME, ALL THE GIRLS WERE AROUND HIM" First off, Hockey isnt the only thing on these kids minds, and it shouldn't be.. there is just so much they can handle ESPECIALLY being a Canadiens player where Hockey is everywhere they go.. they are young, they have money.. they have EVERY right to drink if they feel like it, has long as they know the laws, they follow the curfew and the drinking, doesn't a personal problem, and that they don't get drunk before a game.. And to blame the slumps on the fact they've been drinking? COMMON! Ever heard of a lack of confidence, it happens Perron.. Second, if it is a reason why they are on a slump.. than is Higgins drunk every day? It's *** like this that makes players NOT wanna come to Montreal. IT's *** like this that might even make Price sign elsewhere once he can.. They have no freedom of criticism because what ever they do is considered BAD.. THEY ARE HUMANS. Not Robots.

The Cat's picture
The players can party and drink, heck they can even play drunk if they want...But the tradeoff is you cant play like *** though.

Habsrule1's picture
What's the deal with your pic? Is there something behind that logo? It's mighty ugly. Go Habs Go!! "I can't hear what Jeremy(Roenick) is saying because my Stanley Cup rings are in my ears" - Patrick Roy

twocents's picture
Can you give it rest with the avatar? You have hounded this guy several times. You don't like it, who cares? State it once, move on.

Habsrule1's picture
I'm just asking, dude. Relax. I'm curious if there is some sort of significance I'm missing. Go Habs Go!! "I can't hear what Jeremy(Roenick) is saying because my Stanley Cup rings are in my ears" - Patrick Roy

twocents's picture
You have posted several comments like, 'I don't like your pic', 'it's ugly'... If you are merely interested in the significance, you could have simply asked that and nothing else. You may have gotten an answer by now. I'll take a stab at it for you, though. It represents a black and sad time in Habsland for this guy. It did used to include some Bruins colours and was first seen around the time of a loss to them. As our main rivals in the east now, it seems to make sense that they might be a sore point. Could mean other things or something altogether different, I don't know. It's certainly original and shows some talent in electronic graphic design. It's just that your being aggressive about a matter of personal taste. At least when SmartDog was being given a hard time, there was humour in it and he was responsive to the comments. This guy doesn't seem to want to discuss your opinion of it with you and he doesn't have to.

Habsrule1's picture
As I said, relax. All I said is that it was ugly. If he was offended, he could have said so also. I don't think calling a made up avatar "ugly" can really be considered as rude. It's not like I was talking about the guy's Mom. Sheesh....this losing streak is really bringing out the worst in people. Go Habs Go!! "I can't hear what Jeremy(Roenick) is saying because my Stanley Cup rings are in my ears" - Patrick Roy

Tharsis's picture
its not too complicated...instead of a happy habs logo, it is a sad habs logo. ---------------------------------- Fate leads the willing, and drags along the reluctant.

Habsrule1's picture
LOL he changed it now. I was just curious...not sure why twocents lost it on me lol Go Habs Go!! "I can't hear what Jeremy(Roenick) is saying because my Stanley Cup rings are in my ears" - Patrick Roy

Steve in Kingston's picture
Snow problem, mates! It's all good.

Jay in PA's picture
Looks like it's the Habs' CH crest turned on its side and modified slightly.

Natrous's picture
It is, but I believe it was also meant to look like a smiling Habs fan as well (eyes, mouth...) :D

Jay in PA's picture
Yes, of course... The unibrow is a little off-putting, tho!

Steve in Kingston's picture
Unibrow...too funny. Be thankful you haven't seen the blue mullet streaming down the back :-) The total look is called a "longueil", I believe. Or is it a "gatineau". I forget.

Habsrule1's picture
It's no big deal...it's just the B looks like a Booins B...wondering about the significance. Go Habs Go!! "I can't hear what Jeremy(Roenick) is saying because my Stanley Cup rings are in my ears" - Patrick Roy

sidhu's picture
Per TSN's Ice Chips - "Defenceman Ryan O'Byrne has been assigned to the Hamilton Bulldogs of the American Hockey League."

Natrous's picture
Aaaaaannnnnncieeeeeeennnnnt.

Gary320's picture
They have ALWAYS partied. This is not an excuse for the slump because last year there was pictures leaking around of them partying (ESPECIALLY SERGEI).. But wait, NO ONE TALKED ABOUT IT LAST YEAR.. Oh why not? Cause the team was doing good. Perron is looking for a story but has nothing concrete. He's a man who brags about his one stanley cup, that he won because of his team and because of this one guy called Patrick Roy. What he said was on 110... 110%!!!!!! Anyone who thinks he's reliable needs to wake up..

Wops's picture
Couldn't agree more, Perron is a joke. _______________________________________ CH is for Chris Higgins

Jay in PA's picture
The one thing that strikes me as funny in the Perron article is that Perron cites sources who are way up in Montreal society and very knowledgeable. Maybe I'm missing something, but when three of the most recognizable faces in the city are getting trashed in city bars and clubs on a regular basis, it's unlikely to be a closely-guarded secret known only to well-connected luminaries in the upper crust of Montreal society. My guess is that you could talk to a few bouncers and zero in on the facts awfully quickly. That said, I guess this adds a new wrinkle to the team's collapse for me. I was beginning to think that a big part of it was due to an apparent lack of team cohesion which was due in turn to the formation of different cliques in the dressing-room. Now it sounds like there are extra-curricular factors as well that may or may not be related to the dressing-room politics. I wonder if Carbo is in over his head here, as I can't see any of the more mature veterans effectively assuming uncontested control over the dressing room and reining these guys in.

Who cares what the players do for entertainment on their spare time? As long as they are law abiding people they have the same right as others to party. The main focus should be how they perform on the ice and not what they do in their spare time.

Who would ever listen to Jean Perron.

Chorske's picture
It's kind of pathetic that he still carries enough of a grudge against the original amigos to use the latest kerfuffle to blab about his own experience. But I don't think it's just Perron raising this issue- these stories / pictures have been circulating for many days now. It's clearly one that pushes his buttons.

Chorske's picture
Least surprising news ever. I don't care if they have a drink every now and then- but they are professionals, and part of the reason they are paid millions of dollars is that they are expected to make sacrifices in certain areas. For instance, they have to stay in shape. And they have to represent the team at all times. And they have to make sure that they arrive each game ready to play. I don't give a crap how young they are, and I don't give a crap that everyone likes to party sometimes. They are paid a lot of money to play a game, and I'm disappointed that they don't take their responsibilities more seriously.

twocents's picture
While that is fair enough and true, it can take some individuals a few life lessons to learn these things. The disappointing figure in all this, if it's true at all, would clearly be Higgins. At his age he should have learned already. Thus, the trade rumours?

What a wonderful thread for the negative nancys to come out and complain about drinking on the team. I feel that from past experiences with players, we should give them a touch longer to sober up, before trading them.

Chorske's picture
Apparently the apologists visit these threads too. ;)

fun police's picture
boone,what is your take on all this?

Mike Boone's picture
I am in agreement with my friend and colleague, Mr. Stubbs. I posted the item only because it's generating a lot of buzz around town today. Ever wonder why the only coaching job Jean Perron has had in 20 years was in Israel? And only during a slump do some fans decided that rich guys in their 20s should be in bed wearing stocking caps and watching The National at 10 o'clock every night.

Norm0770's picture
Do the stocking caps match the pajama like jerseys they wore against the B's?

The Cat's picture
Actually, he coached in the IHL and AHL. But I got to admit, without researching Id have never known it off hand.

Chorske's picture
True, re: Perron. Not so sure about the stocking caps thing. There's a fine line somewhere, isn't there? I don't want them to be celibate teetotallers, but if I can lay off the booze the night before a big meeting, so can these dudes.

HugeHabsFan's picture
I agree as well. A theory being discussed here at our paper by the few Habs fans we have (can't help we are in Ontario and have tasteless Leafs & Wings fans here, lol) is that the team may be working to rule because there are so many players that need to be signed and Bob Gainey won’t be talking to them about contracts until after the season. Personally, I'm not necessarily sure that is the case, but who knows?? Oh...and as long as they're watching The National and not the competition. ;o)) ........... "To you from failing hands we throw the torch. Be yours to hold it high." I STILL BELIEVE. I WILL ALWAYS BELIEVE.

Natrous's picture
If working to rule equals maximizing your value for the biggest contract possible, that's a pretty idiotic idea that some player's agents should probably discourage.

HugeHabsFan's picture
Totally agree Nat. Just water cooler talk. I'd like to believe it's "just" a funk and they will come out of it with flying colors. But that's me - I am forever the optimist. ;o) ........... "To you from failing hands we throw the torch. Be yours to hold it high." I STILL BELIEVE. I WILL ALWAYS BELIEVE.

Dave Stubbs's picture
Loved Guy Lafleur's line in the recent CBC special on the Canadiens' centennial, talking about the team's party animals of the 1970s: "We loved to play guilty." And Jean Perron's motives about not wanting Carbo to suffer the same fate he did? Perron is so full of it, his eyes are brown. Dave Stubbs
Habs Inside/Out
Sports Columnist/Feature Writer, Montreal Gazette

 


Big Bird's picture
As always, love your candour Dave.

Hockey players party. In every city. They partied last year when they were winning, and they party this year when they are not. Why is this a problem now? This is a joke. Guys like Perron give MTL a bad name... This news will go around the league for sure. Higgins works hard most games. Are we supposed to believe this time is imploding because 3 guys are named as party animals? I was hoping HIO would avoid such sensationalism. I was disappointed to see MY hockey guru, Mike Boone post this.

Natrous's picture
Back in the '70s and '80s I can see and understand the 'party' mentality of hockey players and the league in general, but since expansion and rule changes (which essentially increased the speed and intensity of the game), there is no longer any room for players who cannot maintain focus and stay out of the bars on the night before games. That, and the Habs of the '70s had *slightly* more talent than today's roster, who consider "playing guilty" as the act of giving up 2-3 times more shots against vs shots for.

The big buzz killer in all this partying, is going to be when these players enter into relationships,and then its going to be remember when.

Maybe if the rest of the Habs had a little Captain Morgan in them, they could be excused as well!

Flash Gordon might make them a little faster.

nick's picture
Ok, so that explains Sergei, Higgins, and Price, whats the rest of the teams excuse?

This story is insane. Going out late and getting drunk all the time would make a player sluggish and disinterested. Would it also make a player play his *** off every shift, but not score goals a-la-Higgins???? I DON'T THINK SO.

HabsFan2's picture
"Would it also make a player play his *** off every shift, but not score goals a-la-Higgins????" Yeah, I remember last year to. sigh ---------------------------------------------- "I have come home." - Patrick Roy

Warning to Boozy Habs: Don't drink and drive. You may spill some!

Jay in PA's picture
That reminds me of PJ O'Rourke's suggestion that killing yourself via drug overdose is a bad idea because you might miscalculate the dose and just have a good time.

hockey players drinking? no way. i don't believe it. next thing they'll be saying hockey players drink at gentlemen's clubs. how far fetched can you get? now if jacques says the canadiens have a problem then perhaps there is more to it than meets the eye. but it would have to be a heck of alot of partying to warrant that kind of attention. anyway, if they are partying so much that it's affecting their stellar play of late then they should have their butts kicked for it. They make too much money not to deliver performance.

Montrealer2's picture
What !!! Hockey Players drinking & partying......Say it isn't so . LoL. Hockey players make tons of dough & are in some of the wildest towns in the world on a relatively constant basis, & nowadays they are so wealthy,that going out is obvious,as long as they 'do their job' properly ,Who Cares,...I seem to Remember a #10 with his photo on the front page of Montreal Matin or Allo Police many years ago with a support pole from a chain link fence sticking right through the windshield of hi Caddy, ( while he was still asleep) & he was known to be a partyer ,I doubt he just fell asllep like they claimed, it was 4 am in Montreal (relatively eaarly) & he was hammered...but guess what when he came to the rink ,he played to win........These modern day players ,are not getting the job done on the ice,so everything they do on their own time ,will be under scrutiny....If the habs start winning & Price starts 'blocking ' the puck,..then nobody will give crap,if he stays out all night every night... ......but bottom line,.let's start seeing your job being done properly & then party

RiverviewCanadien's picture
You know reading these posts almost daily, it was agreed by many that Kovalev was to blame for the team (yes the entire team as most have said), that he is not a role model for the young guns, blah, blah, blah. But as soon as word gets out that Higgins is a boozer and is partying with the younger guys (being a terrible influence), there are excuses being thrown left, right, front, and center. Maybe Higgins is the bad seed, who knows. We all speculate, but be fair to the rest of the team and to the players. Call them out for what they do wrong, but don't call them out because they are not carrying the team this year like they did last year. The Kovy jabs are getting really old because it is apparent that HE is not the SOLE problem with this team. Higgins has to go, and this could be just another reason for it.

Mattee.'s picture
1) Carey Price & Gorges are best friends 2) Higgins & Komisarek are best friends 3) Sergei & Andrei K probably don't go anywhere without eachother. I couldn't see all these guys just leaving their buddies every night to go drink. On another note, are they pouring some down kovy's throat in his sleep?

tony d's picture
the only one who's happy about this recent rumour is the "Octoplet Mom"...takes some of the spotlight off of her for a bit

Chorske's picture
Haha, nice

luxie's picture
oh and what about that rumour that Carey Price got a girl pregnant... ridiculous... and french media are wondering why free agent do not sign here...

J.T.'s picture
Gee...I always thought Perron was fired because he couldn't coach and had to ask Larry Robinson and Bob Gainey to step in and take control of the room before the 1986 playoffs. Whatever reason he's got for going public with his "sources," I think the one he gives is bogus. As for the party boys, I have no problem with them partying if they're discreet and it doesn't affect their on-ice performance. They're young, good-looking and rich and no one can expect them to be monks. You can, however, expect them to be adults and professionals and keep the partying under control when the season is on. If that's not happening, then there's a problem. However, it seems most of the team's previous amigos managed to grow up elsewhere as they got a bit older. Hopefully, the wise heads in charge of our team can get through to the boys without resorting to sending them away...if, indeed, there is even a real problem. http://habsloyalist.blogspot.com

I have friends who party all night in the hot clubs around the lower Main and further south towards the old port. They see certain Habs constantly, and some - like Higgins - get completely wasted as a rule. Higgins is a happy drunk and quite approachable, I'm told. He will always give an honest answer without dissing his teammates or organization, much like in interviews, although he sways and slurs his words. This is nothing new. I remember seeing Manson, Recchi and Turner Stevenson (in suits) enjoying a few pints at an Irish pub near Crescent sometime in the November after Tremblay had gotten the boot. I'll never forget Manson telling me in a scratchy voice from the next urinal over how their relative success that season was mostly due to having a "real coach". But they didn't stay and get trashed. They had a game the next day and these pros were outta there by 11:00 pm. Now Pat Burns on the other hand...

mrhabby's picture
"canadiens are aware they have a problem". is this just 3 of them going out for drinks every once in a while or is it party central every night???????. me not get this.

I don't think going out for drinks once in a while is considered a problem. But getting drunk the day before a game, not getting enough sleep, not showing up to optional practices, being out of shape due to lack of sleep/conditioning, THAT is a problem. If what Perron says is true, then some of the youngsters on the team are falling into that category. And before we all go bonanza on their collective arses, we have to realize that it was bound to happen. If the team isn't winning, they are likely to get depressed a bit and the natural human behavior is to try to hide from our problems with partying and drinking. At least it is, at this age. So yes, I'm willing to blame the young guys for being irresponsible, but I blame much more severely the Canadiens organization for not providing a personal coach/babysitter to these guys to ensure they are 'with the program'. They are not supervised at all outside of the arena, what do you expect from 20 year old guys who suddenly have MILLIONS of dollars to spend? Especially in a city with a nightlife like Montreal's...

mrhabby's picture
damn, i wish i was them..money, hot babes, good food, hockey, the spotlight.