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posted by Mike Boone at 19h16 EST on Mar 3
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Submitted by SBAH on Thu, 03/05/2009 - 00:44.
After the game tonight againts Buffalo, you no longer have to wonder "what if"
Submitted by ReverendJim on Wed, 03/04/2009 - 08:58.
I don't know what will happen with the goalies but Price BETTER be good against Buffalo. We need those 2 points!
As for dealing a player or not...I don't really expect anything. Bob has trained us well...
Come on Price, have a big night for the team!
Submitted by Chris on Wed, 03/04/2009 - 02:09.
From the NHL.com stats:
Boston: Savard (5'10", 191 lbs.), Krejci (6'0", 170 lbs.), Bergeron (6'2", 194 lbs.), Yelle (6'2", 182 lbs.)
Detroit: Pavel Datsyuk (5'11", 194 lbs.), Henrik Zetterberg (5'11", 195 lbs.), Kris Draper (5'10", 180 lbs.), Valtteri Filppula (6'0", 193 lbs.)
San Jose: Joe Thornton (6'4", 235 lbs.), Patrick Marleau (6'2", 220 lbs.), Joe Pavelski (5'11", 195 lbs.), Jeremy Roenick (6'1", 205 lbs.), Marcel Goc (6'1", 200 lbs.)
New Jersey: Travis Zajac (6'2", 200 lbs.), Dainius Zubrus (6'5", 225 lbs.), John Madden (5'11", 190 lbs.), Bobby Holik (6'4", 230 lbs.)
Montreal:Tomas Plekanec (5'11", 197 lbs.), Saku Koivu (5'10", 182 lbs.), Maxim Lapierre (6'2", 207 lbs.), Glen Metropolit (5'10", 195 lbs.), Robert Lang (injured, 6'3", 217 lbs.)
So the Habs centres (without Lang) are comparable in size to those of Detroit and the "big", bad Bruins. They are significantly smaller than the centres iced by both the Devils and the Sharks.
If the Habs stick to a defensive system where they hound the other team, this fixation with size becomes a moot point. The problem with the Habs' centres is not necessarily that they are small, but that the Habs' forwards as a group make too many mistakes in their defensive coverage.
Some of the best defensive centres in recent years (Draper, Peca, Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Madden) are smaller guys...they get the job done because they keep their feet moving, read the play exceptionally well and play for teams full of players that either execute the team's defensive system or find themselves with a one-way ticket out of town.
I truly believe that is is far easier to implement a good defensive system (under the right coach) and get players to play it than it is to find big, physical centremen talented enough to play top-6 forward minutes on a team with Stanley Cup aspirations.
Submitted by nightmare_49 on Wed, 03/04/2009 - 07:39.
C - Nice theory but their is a problem with your Habs centers, small they may be but Saku has guts and Pleks lacks it and the big thing is that if you blow on either of them they fall down, the other small centers on the other teams you mentioned don't have that problem.
Submitted by Chris on Wed, 03/04/2009 - 09:08.
More and more, I think you and I just watch two very different hockey leagues. Short of drilling him a la Colby Armstrong, Saku Koivu is a very hard guy to knock down when he has the puck. He has tremendous lower body strength and shields the puck very, very well. How many times do you see him gliding around hulking defencemen, using his body to shield the puck, before spinning off his mark to fire a pass out to somebody?
Besides, if a completely disinterested player like Dainius Zubrus can somehow recreate himself as a wonderful two-way centre, then I think Tomas Plekanec can easily find himself a good playoff run. Its not like Marleau or Thornton have particularly excelled in the playoffs either...
Until you win the Stanley Cup, people will always attach labels to players. Some of them never shake the label, some of them do. When the Habs' centres play to their potential, they can be a very effective group.
Submitted by habsfan0 on Wed, 03/04/2009 - 00:10.
Will Trader Bob make a blockbuster deal tomorrow?
"Coitanly!"
Submitted by Bill on Wed, 03/04/2009 - 00:01.
I'm going to bed. Can't wait to see what Santa Bob leaves under my Trade-Deadline tree!
Last year I must have been bad, because not only did I not get anything for Trade Deadline, but Santa Bob actually snuck down my chimney and stole my goalie! He said he was taking it back to his workshop for repairs, but he never brought it back, and lately I've seen one just like it playing really well for the Blackhawks. The only thing Santa Bob left last year in my house was a 2nd round draft pick that was even too small for a mouse.
But this year I've been good, and I think Santa Bob will finally bring me that big, scoring centre I've always wanted! Or a solid, physical D-man to replace my crappy old Brisebois that I've had since, like, 1992. Here's hoping! I'm leaving some cookies and Pepto Bismol out for Santa Bob just in case. See you all tomorrow!
Submitted by shuttle-lemaire... on Tue, 03/03/2009 - 23:26.
This has probably already been posted...Hossa was injured in the 1st period against ST.Louis tonight....taken off on stretcher and taken to hospital.
Submitted by twocents on Tue, 03/03/2009 - 23:19.
LeBrun is reporting that the Habs are out of the mix for Jokinen.
Submitted by cautiousoptimist on Wed, 03/04/2009 - 00:58.
With all due respect to LeBrun, if Gainey wants Jokinen, he'll nab him, and we can fit him under the cap if we move Dandy or just about anyone else. Certainly it'll take at least Higgins or Pleks to bring Jokinen here, which would make plenty of room.
1. www.flickeringpictures.com - not a hockey site, but still kinda neat
2. Josh Gorges on Montreal's attack: "They're comin', they're comin' and they keep comin'. Just line after line, wave after wave..."
Submitted by jj on Wed, 03/04/2009 - 02:12.
what gives you this impression? Gainey wanted Hossa, Smyth, Shanahan, Sundin, yet none of them are wearing the sainte-flanelle.
Submitted by habsfan0 on Wed, 03/04/2009 - 23:51.
...notice a pattern here too,do you?
Submitted by TripleX on Tue, 03/03/2009 - 23:47.
At some point a successful (winning) franchise has to make the tough decisions. If you feel the team has a chance to go far in the post season, then you do everything possible to strengthen the team and address weaknesses. If you feel the team has critical flaws, then you shed players for draft picks and restock the team. To do neither means you are accepting of mediocrity and the only concern is the bottom line. A full building and one or two rounds of post season is fiscally prudent but not what the Habs should be about.
Guy Carbonneau is the new poster boy for the Peter Principle!
Submitted by Bill on Tue, 03/03/2009 - 23:44.
I don't buy that salary cap argument Lebrun reports. Jokinen is affordable enough that he clears this year just on losing the salary of whoever is traded for him, unless the Coyotes are looking to take on no salary at all. As for next year, that's next year. It just would mean they don't get to keep one of Komi, Tanguay, or Kovy.
Submitted by twocents on Tue, 03/03/2009 - 23:50.
I agree, I don't buy the reasoning either. I am just passing on the link as people often seem to appreciate that sort of thing.
I am not so sure about Jokinen though anyway.
Submitted by Bill on Tue, 03/03/2009 - 23:54.
Oh, no, I definitely appreciated the link!
I am pretty sold on Jokinen. He's the kind of player the Habs need up front, and the only one out there right now who's available. I'd give whatever it takes, which I'm assuming is Plekanec or Higgins + a prospect like Subban.
Submitted by cautiousoptimist on Wed, 03/04/2009 - 01:05.
I really think Phoenix will want a promising centre and change for Jokinen. Like I said previously, I think we could get Jokinen and Sauer for Pleks, Hamrlik and a middling pick/prospect. That would even out the salary, and both teams improve.
1. www.flickeringpictures.com - not a hockey site, but still kinda neat
2. Josh Gorges on Montreal's attack: "They're comin', they're comin' and they keep comin'. Just line after line, wave after wave..."
Submitted by twocents on Wed, 03/04/2009 - 00:07.
What does it say that Florida traded him for a couple of middle pairing D when he was under contract for a few more years? And what does it say that Florida looks to have a chance of making the posts season, after a long absence, after trading him? What also does it say that his time in Phoenix looks to have had a very short shelve life?
McKeen's says that a kind of malaise entered his game last year that wasn't there previously. And, he holds the league ALL TIME record for most games without a playoff game.
I know from a skill and physical standpoint he is exactly what we need up front, but there's a real feeling we may end up with more than we bargained for.
Submitted by Richrebellion on Wed, 03/04/2009 - 02:35.
They are both decent defense which stabalized their d but florida is known for making bad trades remember when they traded luongo? Then you can say the same for luongo as well in a way they never made the playoffs with him in nets and vancouver didnt make it last year but he is arguably the best goalie in the league? He also havent performed as well as they thought he would in phoenix and since they arent in the playoff race why not get something for him. Ive heard the same about him but hopefully koivu cant set him straight. I think he has his problems but since phoenix wants him gone maybe we can steal him at a reasonable price? In any way people said last season hossa wasnt a playoff performer and he was having a bad season and he went to pittsburgh and killed it in the playoffs so you never know!
Submitted by king ddd on Wed, 03/04/2009 - 00:01.
pleks and subban shouldnt be traded at least not this year
Submitted by timo (not verified) on Tue, 03/03/2009 - 23:34.
Can't wait to hear Gainey's explanation as to why. On the second thought, I don't really care. Just another year where Habs' biggest need hasn't been addressed.
Submitted by twocents on Tue, 03/03/2009 - 23:42.
timo, If you were on the team, you would be highly valued for your consistency.
Heck! you are around here!
Submitted by timo (not verified) on Tue, 03/03/2009 - 23:50.
Thanks. I appreciate it.
Can I get paid for that? :)
Submitted by itpf on Tue, 03/03/2009 - 23:18.
Unless Price plays AMAZINGLY, as AMAZINGLY as Halak has been playing - and he has been unbelievable - i say go back to Halak.
Submitted by TripleX on Wed, 03/04/2009 - 00:01.
We are talking about a team coached by Carbo. Playing well, is no guarantee that you will be in the lineup. Playing badly, is no guarantee that you will not be in the lineup. Friendships, misguided loyalty, and membership in the old boys club, is the only guarantee.
Guy Carbonneau is the new poster boy for the Peter Principle!
Submitted by G-Man on Wed, 03/04/2009 - 07:10.
Bunk.
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Submitted by timo (not verified) on Tue, 03/03/2009 - 23:22.
If this team gives up more than 40 shots against Buffulo there really is a problem.
Submitted by Bill on Tue, 03/03/2009 - 23:55.
Oh, there really is a problem! This team gave up nearly 50 shots to Colorado!
Submitted by timo (not verified) on Tue, 03/03/2009 - 23:07.
Carbonneau a dit qu'il n'a pas formulé de demandes particulières à Gainey.
"C'est difficile d'établir où on est rendu comme équipe en raison de la tonne de blessures qu'on a eue. Les retours au jeu d'Alex Tanguay et de Guillaume Latendresse vont ajouter du 'punch' à l'attaque.
More of great comments from our coach. To summarize, Carbo does not have any particular demands for Gainey. Hmm... coach who does not know what will make team better or he truly thinks Brisbois is the answer to our defense woes?
Second: "It is hard to figure out what we achieved as a team because of all the injuries we've had. The return of Tanguay and Latendresse will add a punch on attack". Hahaha... the ever fearful Lats' offensive skills. And Tanguya will take at least dozen of games to get going and that's a best case scenario. Sigh... I am so hopeful.
Submitted by Richrebellion on Wed, 03/04/2009 - 02:44.
His job is to coach he doesnt do trades! Plus he hasnt had a full roster all year so how does he know how a full team will be? I hate Brisebois but bouillion shud be back before the playoffs and he will help out the d no? Tanguay has been practicing for over a week now and wont take a dozen games to get back at most 2 so calm that down! And latendresse although not the biggest threat was doing a lil here and there and playing with lapierre and max-pac wud maybe make a good third line. This team was so good last year because they were healthy no1 missed a good amount of time. This season has been horrible almost everyone missing months at a time. Who knows what a full team can do? Koivu line besides san jose game hasnt done anything. Where as tanguay-higgins-koivu were playing well together. Hopefully with a full team we will be a much better team come playoff time.
Submitted by Bill on Tue, 03/03/2009 - 23:37.
Hey Timo.
1) Well, what is he going to say? Think about it. Is he going to say, "I need Bob to add a big centreman and a D or we're screwed?" He and Gainey work together; he's just staying out of it with that noncommittal answer.
2) Tanguay and Latendresse obviously will help the offense. Lats scores quite a few goals for a guy who gets modest ice-time. I loved what he was doing before his injury: playing hard, hitting hard, chipping in offensively ... great stuff. And Tanguay is a consistent producer. You don't think they'll help?
Submitted by timo (not verified) on Tue, 03/03/2009 - 23:52.
If you remember I actually always supported Lats and I am ok with Alex. I just don't think they are the missing pieces. They make us a decent club but they are not the winning pieces of the puzzle. Lats adds good size to any line and when he hits he hits. If he can bring himself to play like that every game I'd say I want him to stay for a long long time.
Submitted by Shiloh on Wed, 03/04/2009 - 02:07.
I've never seen him throw a decent hit. He also never, as in ever, comes out with the puck. I watch him like a hawk, every single shift.
Submitted by Chris on Wed, 03/04/2009 - 02:10.
Komisarek, when he was playing his best, most physical game last season, rarely came out with the puck. You go for a hit, you're usually off-balance and pretty much out of position to get the puck.
Submitted by G-Man on Tue, 03/03/2009 - 23:13.
:)
The Habs are 2 points behind last season's output after the same amount of games and almost every fan has watched what they figure is a mediocre club. Look at all the injuries compared to last season and I'd say The Habs have improved quite a bit. Go figure.
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Submitted by t1tan5 on Tue, 03/03/2009 - 23:16.
To support your point even more, we are actually on par with last season. After 63 games, we were 33-21-9 = 75 pts.
Submitted by timo (not verified) on Tue, 03/03/2009 - 23:19.
Fantastic improvement (eyeroll)
Submitted by t1tan5 on Tue, 03/03/2009 - 23:25.
We've had a lot of injuries to key players on the team throughout the season. To be in a similar position as we were last year is a testament to our depth as an organization.
Submitted by Josh on Tue, 03/03/2009 - 22:46.
The remainder of Langs salary and more was taken up by Scneider. The actual salary cap room the Habs have is around $350,000 not million.
edit- It may actually be as high as $550,000 but no way it's even close to the millions McGuire is saying.
Submitted by Richrebellion on Wed, 03/04/2009 - 02:48.
yes most of langs salary was taken by schneider but everytime a player goes on IR his salary doesnt count toward the cap for the amount of time he is out. So when guys like tanguay, higgins,lang,koivu, komisarek,boullion,dandenault and others have been out it has built up into a decent amount of money hence the millions!
Submitted by twocents on Tue, 03/03/2009 - 23:02.
550K of actual cap space could be used to take on an annual cap hit of around 2.2 million because the players salary will be prorated. If I guy like Dandy goes the other way the Habs could squeeze in a player with an annual salary of around 4 million.
Submitted by timo (not verified) on Tue, 03/03/2009 - 23:02.
Habs have way too many players.
Submitted by mastodon on Tue, 03/03/2009 - 22:54.
He means 3.7 million as if it were the start of the year. We can't add 3.7 million dollars to the cap right now, but we can add a player whose cap hit is 3.7 million because we are only paying him for the next 20 some games. I am bad at explaining this, haha, but hopefully you get it.
Submitted by mastodon on Tue, 03/03/2009 - 22:42.
I do not know if this was posted here yet (sorry if it's old news, I read it a couple days ago) but it is an awesome read. GM's tell their trade deadline stories. Of interest to us, Don Waddell about Hossa last year to the Canadiens, Penguins, or Wings. We had him at 2:57 and the trade deadline was at 3:00. But I'll let you read the story.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=3946240
Submitted by Richrebellion on Wed, 03/04/2009 - 02:59.
To me it seems as if waddell stiffed gainey. He waited for the pens to decide without even giving him a chance. Who knows if gainey might of added a little something into that trade but hey pens have fallen apart this season so maybe it saved us?
Submitted by Chris on Wed, 03/04/2009 - 01:09.
But wait!!! Wasn't Bob Gainey being crucified by some in here just a few days ago because Waddell allegedly said that the Habs were never serious contenders for Hossa's services...
Somebody's got some explaining to do... :)
Submitted by Bill on Tue, 03/03/2009 - 22:58.
That SUCKS!!
Submitted by c-note on Tue, 03/03/2009 - 22:32.
Not sure if this has been mentioned but as I understand it Washington has 50 signed pro players (the max) so if they want to pick up Guerin they can't just swap Dandenault for Nylander. They would have to send another player our way or somewhere else.
Submitted by king ddd on Tue, 03/03/2009 - 22:29.
like most of u i don't want to see nylander.. however although it is not likely to happen.. what would be good is if we get jokinen and kaberle, a big C and top 4 D
Submitted by Rod Black on Tue, 03/03/2009 - 22:22.
Please no Nylander......that would put me soooo mad!
Submitted by Shiloh on Tue, 03/03/2009 - 22:17.
Haven't we all seen this movie before? We hang around all day hoping against hope for a big move and then we get the Chatanooga Lake Trouts' Number 5 defenseman for a 6th-rounder. I want Jokinen, I'll take Bouwmeister, you could satisfy with Morris or Vinny - I just don't want Clyde Clapper (0G - 1A - 37G).
Submitted by Rod Black on Tue, 03/03/2009 - 22:19.
Les Cyclones de Cotapick
Submitted by mrhabby on Tue, 03/03/2009 - 22:01.
jokinen to calgary looks good according to that eklund guy.
Submitted by fuhgawz on Tue, 03/03/2009 - 22:02.
who cares what eklund says has he ever been right?
Submitted by mastodon on Tue, 03/03/2009 - 22:38.
He called Schneider to the Habs before Christmas. He said it will get done, just a matter of time. That's one time, haha.
Submitted by showey47 on Tue, 03/03/2009 - 22:41.
he also called lang to montreal last summer if they didn't get sundin.
Submitted by mrhabby on Tue, 03/03/2009 - 22:11.
agree..some invisible guy.
Submitted by fuhgawz on Tue, 03/03/2009 - 21:56.
i like the idea of Higgy, Chips and a 2nd or 3rd rounder for Mikko from Minny ... big center, a stud for talent, and if he has heart like his brother what more could you ask for? ..... not to mention might help to retain Saku next season
Submitted by Chris on Wed, 03/04/2009 - 01:17.
Zero chance of that deal, I'm afraid. Mikko Koivu is a star player in the making and likely the captain and face of that franchise for years to come. He's also signed for 2 more years after this season at a very affordable $3.325 million per season.
I think it takes a LOT more than a slow checking line centre that can't crack the Habs lineup, a 2nd round pick and an under-performing Higgins for one of the top young centres in the NHL.
Submitted by mrhabby on Tue, 03/03/2009 - 22:12.
whats mikko's cap hit. is he signed next year.
Submitted by fuhgawz on Tue, 03/03/2009 - 22:36.
I have no idea mrhabby I did not really research it just thought it would be a good trade
Submitted by timo (not verified) on Tue, 03/03/2009 - 21:52.
All teams we need to lose are winning tonight. Habs better beat Buffulo, Atlanta and Dallas this week. I hope Price is pissed and ready to stand on his head a-la Halak, cause boy, i am afraid any help on D isn't coming.
THere will be no moves. Habs like usual will at best make some minor insignificant deal.
Submitted by nightmare_49 on Tue, 03/03/2009 - 22:19.
t - All the other GMs are working on deals while Bob is in his rocking chair jotting down things for his spin at the press conference late tomorrow afternoon - he wasn't the right fit - we were very close - Mr. Boone didn't like him - we felt we already had that type of player - he was related to Rejean Tremblay - they were asking to much - he didn't like to party - he didn't excel in faceoffs - we were looking for a smaller player - he didn't speak french - our scouts told us - we weren't confident on signing him - he was a center and he was bigger than Saku, wrong chemistry - cap issues.
Submitted by Chris on Wed, 03/04/2009 - 01:26.
And yet the roster has turned over all but Koivu, Komisarek, Bouillon and Markov in Gainey's 4.5 season tenure. Pretty amazing that he's been able to do all that while also being completely resistant to rocking the boat.
Submitted by timo (not verified) on Tue, 03/03/2009 - 22:59.
I think Boone not liking a player is usually a deal breaker. Despite what he might say Boone wields huge decision powers within the Habs organization.
Submitted by G-Man on Tue, 03/03/2009 - 22:29.
BG doesn't do trades for the sake of doing a trade. Can he improve the team given the cap restrictions? Can he unload enough salary to make a play? Is Florida stupid enough to trade Bouwmeester when they have their collective skate in the door to the playoffs? Do you mortgage the future on a chance that a certain player will make the difference a la Butch Goring? Impatient fans want the Habs to throw away a promising future on rental players.
Everyone keeps saying how the Habs should model themselves after a consistent winner like the Red Wings. Well, ain't they boring come trade time, too? 29 GMs will be wrong tomorrow, or are just plain unloading salary.
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Submitted by timo (not verified) on Tue, 03/03/2009 - 23:01.
I might agree on some of your points but that whole "mortgage the future" thing is getting pretty old. We've been hearing it for the past 5 years and from where I stand the future does not look particularly bright. Granted it is not as grim as it used to look, but neither does it look really bright. Plus I have zero faith in the coach.
Submitted by Chris on Wed, 03/04/2009 - 01:22.
Let's try a different angle: do the Habs in their current form look like a more attractive landing spot for marquee free agents than they did 2 or 3 years ago?
They have cap flexibility. They have good young talent maturing together. They have a pair of good, young goalies that should only get better. They have a market with a HUGE spotlight, great for endorsements. And in an NHL that is reeling with potentially insolvent franchises, Montreal has one of the more stable revenue streams.
The elite teams in the NHL stay there by being able to woo the top free agents to sign with them. The key question isn't the trade deadline, but whether Gainey can convince free agents that Montreal was not a fluke last season, that they can battle to be in the upper half of the conference each season (as opposed to fighting for 8th spot every season, usually from the outside looking in).
I don't know whether the FA aversion to Montreal will change: if it doesn't, your beefs with Gainey and Carbonneau will be much more well-founded. But if it does, I think this team can make a big leap forwards without giving up too many assets.
Submitted by G-Man on Tue, 03/03/2009 - 23:03.
I know. Carbo sucks until he wins a Cup. And even then...
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Submitted by timo (not verified) on Tue, 03/03/2009 - 23:08.
You're finally getting it :)
Submitted by twocents on Tue, 03/03/2009 - 22:28.
nm, So you figure Gainey was taking a nap when Waddell set up the Schneider deal for him and just woke him for the signature. Good to know you're preparing your tirades in advance too. ;-)
Submitted by nightmare_49 on Tue, 03/03/2009 - 22:43.
Eric - He sent the assistant GM to negotiate to tell you the truth (Gauthier), the Schneider deal was no hell and only took care of a part of our problem in the backend and didn't come cheap. That 'D' problem has been there for two years and nothing has been done about it so i'm not going to harp, maybe later on down the road. I don't expect much at all tomorrow, maybe the usual dumping to keep Gillette.s bank manager happy (Feb/26/08).
Submitted by twocents on Tue, 03/03/2009 - 22:52.
I don't expect much tomorrow either, but I don't agree that that Schneider price was that steep.
I bet that if Florida and Anaheim decide to hold onto Bouwmeester and Pronger the Trashers could have got more than a second rounder(which is all they basically got out of Gainey) for Schneider if they had waited until the deadline.
Submitted by nightmare_49 on Wed, 03/04/2009 - 08:16.
Eric - Basically a 2nd round pick and the salary that he eats up this year (pure rental). Schneider is on his downside of his career and old and now is a role D man and if your going to sign him for next year and it's a big IF he won't go cheap and their will be teams like the Islanders that might sign him for bigger bucks. We didn't address our dire problem of a big younger veteran 'D' with grit that's style looks ugly at a much cheaper price that would break the mould of small D man on our lower level that our coach will play and possibly fill in as 4th D man and mostly kill penalties. Waddell wouldn't have traded Schneider early if other teams were sniffing, he's an experienced seller.
Submitted by twocents on Wed, 03/04/2009 - 11:49.
They might not have been sniffing two weeks ago, but I bet there are a few more noses in action today, as a few players have been taken off the market. I bet Waddell will have wished he waited by the end of today.
I agree we need a bigger grittier D to play on the third pairing too. In fact, if anything happens today, I hope that's what we get.
Submitted by G-Man on Tue, 03/03/2009 - 23:06.
Ducks are better with Pronger, Whitney and Neidermayer. Neidermayer may retire (again) after this season and don't look now, but they may make the playoffs with 3 solid puck moving D-men.
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Submitted by Chris on Wed, 03/04/2009 - 01:32.
If Tangradi pans out, Shero is going to look like a genius...but that's a big if.
Submitted by joestrummer (not verified) on Tue, 03/03/2009 - 22:12.
I would be surprised with any big moves to MTL. But if the small deal smells like the Schneider deal I'm smelling roses.
I agree They need to win big against three not so hot teams this week. We might even out shoot someone.
Submitted by Rod Black on Tue, 03/03/2009 - 22:20.
Dandy for 7th rounder.
Submitted by Bill on Tue, 03/03/2009 - 22:12.
Standings are going to be tight as a frog's *** after tonight. Great time for Halak to get the flu :(
The Habs don't always make insignificant deals. Last year's Huet trade turned out to be very significant when Price flamed out against the Flyers.
Submitted by G-Man on Tue, 03/03/2009 - 23:06.
Do frogs squeak when they fart?
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Submitted by Shiloh on Tue, 03/03/2009 - 22:09.
Hey Timo - you used exactly the right verb for Price to remember: STAND. He has to get over this idea that he can slide around on his knees - that's a very lazy way to play and they'll light him up unless he stays upright until they shoot.
Submitted by G-Man on Tue, 03/03/2009 - 22:05.
Yes, but do you like the team?
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Submitted by zozotheclown on Tue, 03/03/2009 - 21:49.
If price plays well... play halak next game lol, if he can get a SO and/or completely steal the game then he can play again. As for trades, I really want Jokinen, but my guess is the only thing that happends tommorow is dandy to detroit for a 5th.
Submitted by Vid on Tue, 03/03/2009 - 21:20.
No to Nylander. Don't see him bringing anything to the club that the habs need.
On a somewhat unrelated note. Why are so many players being scratched from games in anticipation of possible trades? I don't remember this happening so frequently in previous seasons. It's kind of ridiculous.
Submitted by likehoy on Tue, 03/03/2009 - 21:41.
this is what i'd try to do
dandy + 3rd rounder for recchi
higgins + carle + 2nd rounder for jokinen
our team gets better and we don't lose any important parts to our team
jokinen will fill a void for a big centre
recchi would add complementary scoring that may be needed to go deep in the playoffs (though we have an embarrassment of riches on the wings)
- does carbo bargain for the right Price before games?
Submitted by G-Man on Tue, 03/03/2009 - 23:09.
No Recchi. That old movie didn't work the last time around. I'd like Jokinen, but Phoenix will try to get better and cheaper. Higgins isn't signed beyond this season, so it'll be tough to move him for anyone of significance.
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Beliveau is the best that ever was.
Submitted by joestrummer (not verified) on Tue, 03/03/2009 - 21:25.
I think it happened a bit the last few years. If you know they will be traded an unforeseen injury would ruin the plan.
Submitted by Corporate on Tue, 03/03/2009 - 21:23.
Nylander... Again a winger we don't need.. We need a center.
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Koivu for Prime Minister...
Submitted by twocents on Tue, 03/03/2009 - 21:29.
He's actually a centre, but still....NO TO NYLANDER!!!!
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