About last night ...

posted by Mike Boone at 6h17 EST on Mar 27


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Have the Canadiens ever made a better sixth-round draft choice?

Andrei Markov was spectacular last night: 29:21 of ice time, including 11:22 on the power play.

Five shots on goal, plus three that went wide and six that were blocked.

He was on the ice for four goals – including both of Tampa Bay's, but it was that kind of crazy game.

Markov was part of a defensive effort that held Vincent Lecavalier and Martin St. Louis to one shot each.

He is the Canadiens best and most valuable player, the steadiest and starriest member of what is otherwise a mediocre defence corps.

If it weren't for Andrei Markov, your Montreal Canadiens might be in the John Tavares Derby with the Lightning and a few other bottom-dwellers.

Instead, they're in eighth place after a W that should have been a lot easier.

 



I hadn't watched a hockey game from the Bell Centre pressbox until Habs Inside/Out was launched in October, 2006. At my first game and for every one since, I've been at Seat 39, overlooking the blueline the Canadiens defend for two periods.

 

I like it there, as opposed to the centre-ice Gazette positions occupied by Red Fisher and Pat Hickey, because I love watching defencemen.

 

I think Bobby Orr was the best player ever, a master of hockey's most difficult position. Larry Robinson, Serge Savard, Guy Lapointe, Rod Langway and Chris Chelios number among my all-time favourite Canadiens.

 

Markov doesn't hit like Robinson. He's not a brutal ***-kicker like Chelios.

 

But he's a superb skater and passer – a converted centre back in Russia – with superb vision and highly refined offensive skills.

 

And unlike too many of his confrères, Markov never panics, no matter what the game situation.

 

The fact that Markov is eight points clear of Alex Kovalev on top of the team scoring list says a lot about what kind of season the Canadiens have had. The only other defenceman leading his team in scoring is Mark Streit.

 

(Let's pause now to contemplate what might have been if Bob Gainey offered Streit a lousy $2.8 million in late 2007.)

 

The only D-man in the league with more points than Markov is Mike Green. The Capitals' young star is also plus-24, while Markov is minus-1.

 

But again, it's been that kind of season.

 

In his postgame remarks, Bob Gainey called Markov an "elite player" – neglecting to add "the only one we've got ... for now."

 

Mr. Elite is the highest paid Canadien at $5.75 million (Wade Redden is making $8 million this season) and is signed through 2010-'11. He'll still be around as Carey Price blossoms and the young defence studs – Ryan McDonagh, P.K. Subban, Yannick Weber – start arriving.

 

Crucially, Markov will be around next season, when we should all hope and pray the Canadiens can lure Alexei Yemelin out of Russia.

 

OK, have I raved on enough about number 79?

 

There were a few other guys on the ice last night, and they all played splendidly.

 

The ridiculous final minutes notwithstanding – and what a crusher a regulation L would have been – the Canadiens annihilated Tampa Bay.

 

Through two periods, the Lightning had eight shots. Their 19 were the fewest the Canadiens have allowed this season.

 

At the other end of the ice, Karri Ramo was facing a barrage that included 36 shots on goal, 20 that missed the net and 34 blocks by his TB teammates.

 

That is 90 chances – most dominant offensive-zone puck possession the Canadiens have enjoyed this season.

 

Saku Koivu's dramatic OT goal gave the Canadiens momentum heading into what will be a tough game against Buffalo tomorrow night and a tougher one when the young, scary Blackhawks are at the Bell Centre on Tuesday.

 

The Canadiens aren't out of the woods, but there's a glimmer of light in the distance.

 

The team finally has a number one line – and you wonder what might have been had Guy Carbonneau put Koivu and the two Alexes together in October. Watching Alex Tanguay make passes is almost worth the price of admission.

 

Lines centred by Glen Metropolit (who can skate and has been a pleasant surprise) and Energizer Bunny Maxim Lapierre did a superb job on Lecavalier.

 

Guillaume Latendresse, who's terrific with Lapierre and Tom Kostopoulos, channelled Andrei Kostitsyn (out with the flu) and turned on afterburners we didn't know he had to score on a spectacular wraparound. No less spectacular was Gui!'s check on behemoth Evgeni Artyukhin, who had 10 HITS for TB.

 

Christopher Higgins continues to shine as a defensive forward and penalty-killer.

 

The PP scored only once but displayed great passing and puck control. Tampa Bay took nine penalties to two for the Canadiens – a good indicator of how the game went. Mathieu Schneider played too many minutes, 21:36, for a geezer; but half was on the power play, where he's less ikely to have an on-ice coronary.

 

The Canadiens looked like a playoff team and the Lightning looked like what they are, a woeful franchise with sketchy ownership and a superstar whom more and more people are expecting to see traded before the draft.

 

Bring on the Sabres for another must-win.

 

 

 


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Ian G Cobb's picture
Saturday Weekly stats on how we place in the 30 team league and our 15 team conference. LEAGUE Goals against-225, we are in 21st place better than 24th last week. Total points--85, we are in 14th place worse than 11th last week. Goals for-----223 we are in 13th place worse than 12th last week. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- CONFERENCE Goals against-225, we are in 11th place worse than 10th last week. Total points---85, we are in 8th place better than 10th last week. Goals for-----223, we are in 9th place worse than 7th last week. We are as low as we can be without someone throwing us a life jacket in a hurry.!!!

The Hamilton Bulldogs lost to the Manitoba Moose 2 to 1 in OT as Marc Denis stopped 18 0f 20 shots in his 61:48 minutes of work. Russell (17) got the lone Dawgs goal. Gamesheet: ..... http://www.hamiltonbulldogs.com/page/league_schedule ........ Just for your information: If your looking for Don Lever as the next head coach you may not be happy to hear that Lever seldom keeps lines together for a long time (source - Bulldogs broadcast team).

Nahlsy's picture
For the simple sake of asking, did Boone see who got the assist on the 2nd Tampa goal last night? Or which d-man was caught way out of position while Plekanec and Komisarek were left alone in the pileup in front of (and on top of) Price to create their first goal? Here's a hint, look at the article above. He's good of course but, he's been pretty non-existent defensively over the past 2 months now and isn't being held accountable for it, while others are taking a lot of his heat for him.

Nahlsy's picture
For potential answers to draft picks made as late or later than Markov over the years: Just candidates anyway... Sergei Kostitsyn (7th round) Mark Streit (9th round) Jaro Halak (9th round) Ryder (8th round) Robidas (7th round) Tomas Vokoun (9th round) Darcy Tucker (6th round) Brian Savage 8th Craig Conroy 6th Sean Hill 8th Tom Kurvers 7th **Vlad Tretiak 7th (never got to the NHL but is a hall of famer) Steve Penny 8th Mike McPhee 6th Lyle Odelein 7th Keith Acton 6th **Slava Fetisov 12th round Chris Nilan 19th round Rich Sevigny 7th Those would be the only ones that really had any chance whatsoever to make much of a contention for that title anyway.

ooder's picture
so markov mae's one mistake in his 30 minutes of ice time against one of the best players in the league (lecavalier and st louis) and you go blasting him. hahahaha okkk.. oh and btw did you notice who helped with all 3 goals and set up tanguay for an empty netter which he missed? obviously no matter how low the shot count is price still can't get a shut out..oh oops nothings is ever price's fault my bad. he always plays amazing games no matter what. markov is invisble deffensivly...okkk what next price for the vezina? --- we need a kovalev

IMO what she is saying about Markov is that if you watch the other Norris candidates during a game they seldom make mistakes while Markov makes a trunk load, mostly defensively. That is one part of his game that has never improved and may give the posters who are crying for a 'D' coach some ammunition.

Nahlsy's picture
Nobody blasted him. He's made more than 1 mistake, he's been making a lot of them over the past 2 months along with everyone else out there. He's just not being held accountable for his, everyone else seems to be taking the heat for him. Second, it wasn't Lecavalier and StLouis, it was Koci and Artyukhin that scored. Third, he was in on two goals for the Habs and played a key role in causing two goals against them so that's a wash. That was already accounted for though. There was no empty net, as Tampa never did pull their goalie? Which game were you watching? Lastly, Price's name wasn't mentioned in the message you responded to and the one prior to that only included his name as listing the name of the goalie who had 3 or 4 players sitting on his head while one of his d-men was completely absent. What does Price have to do with any of this? You guys need to get off of your Price fetish and get a grip on reality already. Sheesh.

ooder's picture
sorry man..i just thought you where ripping on markov (who i am a huge fan off btw lol)...sorry i guess i misinterpreted your message. the thing is i the reason that markov doesn't get held accountable is because not only does he contribute defensively, but also he cleans up other people's messes. 3 or 4 times yesterday (and other games) he had to cover both defensive zones because komisarek kep screwing simple clearing plays...he basically plays 2 roles..as a d-man and a babysitter (kind of like hammer with breezer and o'byrne), and he does make mistakes but who wouldn't in his case. also the empty net i was referring to..was his cross ice pass to tanguay who had a wide open net (like the whole side was empty) and i am a big price fan btw..i don't bash him...but i am worreid about his performance as of late...he does play well...but he very often gets caught out of position or he is to slow to get up and move in his net anyways go habs go right man we are both habs fans after all --- we need a kovalev

yathehabsrule's picture
Isles beat Wings 2-0!!!! I made a list of ten potential coaching candidates... See if anyone looks familiar. :)

Nahlsy's picture
Wings suck, kill them all, how dare they lose to the Islanders (who really seem to have played a hell of a lot better since ditching Guerin still by the way)

Buffalo up 4-0 on the Leafs...though game tomorrow. Then again, it's the Leafs.

Nahlsy's picture
4 goals after their 8th shot. Cujo didn't have such a good night tonight.

Maybe they should use watermelons for pucks for the remainder of the game?

Nahlsy's picture
They opted to put Pogge in instead. Miller looks like he could have used some watermelons on those last 3 Leaf goals though.

captaink4life's picture
Piling up some wins before the playoffs would be good for the team's confidence/mindset. _____________________________ Koivu for Prime Minister :) Drive for 25!!

WestHab's picture
Mike Thanks for the Markov obsevations. I think we tend to take him for granted. Probably because of his shy use of english, he doesn't take on that "star" recongition. Just seems like a guy happy to play the game and happy to be a Hab. ....any possiblity of getting spell check on this site...LOL My previous avatar has been sent down to the farm team in hopes to regain his confidence. Brought up is Johnny Winter with his Firebird.

yathehabsrule's picture
Mike: I flopped in your chair during the Summit Bell Centre tour...I agree, you have a great view of the defense from there.. But the plaquard says "Visiting Press." What's with that?

habsfan0's picture
Have the Habs turned the corner? Dominating bottom feeders such as Atlanta and Tampa Bay is nice..but I'll reserve judgement.

yathehabsrule's picture
Take a look at the shots against over the last few games since Gainey took over. I beleive you'll see a gradual decline, capped off with last night's season low. I agree these were not the Bruins, Flyers or Wings, but you have to start somewhere. Not to mention, we could still get home ice (5 pts out) to start the playoffs, if all goes well.

Xtrahabsfan's picture
Tampa getting Travaris is SICK!

yathehabsrule's picture
A waste of all that offense and given their weak D and goaltending, Ramo's big night withstanding.

Steven L The Islanders will get Tavares....what a waste

HugeHabsFan's picture
Tavares. ........... "To you from failing hands we throw the torch. Be yours to hold it high." I STILL BELIEVE. I WILL ALWAYS BELIEVE.

Isn't going to happen.

Your team's chances of making the playoffs .. by Sports Club Stats ..... http://www.sportsclubstats.com/NHL.html ......... Montreal Canadiens: Chance of making the playoffs: 83.0 % (check other teams) very interesting.

Aaron13's picture
The Sabres vs the Habs are usually barn-burners. This game will be a test of the Habs' true mettle.

Steven L. Remember, Miller is back in nets. he has been a Hab killer this year. Hopefully the Laffs wear him down tonite

choover's picture
I wonder if they'll play him in back-to-backs after he plays tonight against the Leafs. With the ankle and the coniditioning, I'm not sure. But I suppose this late in the season you have to go with what you think gives you the best chance.

habfab14120's picture
He'll play. The Sabres play him as much as they can all through the year. There's no way he sits with their playoffs on the line. Radio here in Buffalo is suggesting they need to go 7-1-1 starting tonight to make it (based on the Bruins 8th place points last year). The good news (I hope) is that Buffalo has not won the second half of a back-to-back all season. Not once. If we play like last night, we'll be fine.

likehoy's picture
i agree...they're both quick skating teams that can play a high-tempo...it's usually a bad break too that ends the game. - SAKU KOIVU'S HAND OF GOD.

longtimehabsfan's picture
And remember, it was Rejean Houle who made the commitment to draft and sign Markov. Maybe his only shining moment during his tenure as GM.

Mike Boone's picture
What kind of commitment is a sixth-round pick, 162nd overall? The Genius's first rounder that year was Éric Chouinard.

Exit716's picture
Something about squirrel, visually impaired and nuts applies here. Who was the scouting director then? Wasn't it some kid that was like 22 or something? Terry Ryan, Matt Higgins, Jason Ward, ugh.

Had Houle picked up Simon Gagné in the first and Makov in the six round that year he would have been better remembered than its the case now. We need someone with the Pollock gene presto.

Pollock padded his chances. But he was the best.

ManApart's picture
Poor Reggie. He was so bad, it is actually hard to put into words. Scarier than all the Saw movies combined! Easily the worst GM in Habs history and almost NHL history, if it wasn't for the biggest fool of them all, Mad Mike Milbury. You are right. He gave us our only true elite player, as of this season, and for that I thank him.

Exit716's picture
It wasn't Houle's fault that he was put into a position that he wasn't qualified for. That was Ronald Corey who single-handedly set the franchise back by a good decade and a half by his meddling.

longtimehabsfan's picture
I thought the Habs game last night was much improved over their game against Atlanta even though they filled the net in that game. I saw confidence, intensity, care of the puck, beating the opponents to loose pucks, and what BG calls "emotional engagement". Even thought they had to struggle to win, I like the direction of the team. This is the first time all year that I've seen them play 60 mins. If they can continue to do that then they'll be ready for the playoffs and I don't care who they play. The other teams should be worried about having to face the Habs.

Les-Habitants's picture
Last year, the D-corp was one of the big reasons we were able to finish 1st in the East. Yes, and without a doubt, Andrei Markov is the best player on the team; however, let's try and remember the contributions from the others. Remember what Hammer brought to the team? He stabilized our entire top 6, giving us for the first time in what felt like forever a legitimate 2nd pairing, and that had a trickle down effect on the 3rd. Hammer has been a great addition, giving us another D-man who doesn't panic and can move the puck out of our zone with confidence. I honestly think we have a pretty strong defensive unit, when it plays to its potential and we're beginning to see its reemergence...just in time to save the season! Gorges has also played exceptionally, and Komi is beginning to round back into the form that would put him on many of the top pairings in the league. I really like the 4 lines right now, all are contributing. The 1st line has been dominant, what more can I say about them? Once A. Kos returns, we'll begin to see the 2nd line produce offensively too. The Kostitsyn brothers have chemistry, and they showed that last season with Pleks as their center. It's just a matter of time before they do it again (hopefully). On to Buffalo, a good test. They have all sorts of offensive weapons, and Chicago even more so. We are building momentum, and the Habs are finally playing like a 5 man squad out there. Our injured players are catching up to speed, and last night (despite needing OT) was a strong game overall. And when it comes to the playoffs, everyone will tell you it's not how you did during the season, it's how you finish.

It still too early to speak of momentum but we definetly played as a team yesterday or as you said as a 5 men skad.... dont ask me why it took more than 70 games to do so but it did (except for one game earlier on in Detroit). This new state of affair no doubts opens up new perspectives..... the dead horse we were no longer is. We have limits but those limits would be much less present if A.K. would exploded and turned our second line into a productive scoring line..... lets hope that the virus he had has magical power.

HAB-PROFESSOR's picture
Look, lets cut to the chase here... If we go up against the B's or Philly without STEWY and OBRYNE or HENRY, and BREEZE is on the ice... we are done in 4. sweeped, like a bunch of weaklings... that didn't learn anything from last year... ----- 1. KOVY is now in his prime, he just needs linemates at his level. 2. The N.A.G. Youth Movement of PAX, D'AGS, OBRYNE & STEWY will make us cup contenders. 3. CALL UP HENRY RIGHT NOW....

Chris's picture
You realize that there were a TOTAL of 15 major penalties handed out in the playoffs last year? That's 7 fights in 85 games. And Guillaume Latendresse was involved in one of them. I hardly think that the presence of fighters in the line-up would have changed much of anything.

HAB-PROFESSOR's picture
its not just about fighting, but having the right personalities that will go ballistic without Code B.S.. If they have to shut down Tangy, Koviu and KOVY...that won't be hard, because who is going to stand up to OTT types and HARTNELL/LUCIC types who make their living in the playoffs... we have a KOSTOP that plays that game, but he is a light weight...not enough.

ManApart's picture
I'm sure Stew will be in the lineup for those teams. Forget Henry. Just no point. He can't play D in the NHL (barely in the AHL) and there isn't really fighting in the playoffs. We have Laraque and Stew anyways. O'Byrne is just not good enough to play. His mistakes are too common and too costly. Brisebois did very well against the B's last year and his experience puts him ahead of O'Byrne. He also makes less mistakes, believe it or not. Let's just hope Cube is back in the #6 D position. Even Dandy should be a consideration if Stew takes his spot on the 4th line. In the end, It doesn't matter what we do. The Bruins are just too strong and hungry for us to survive, barring a miracle.

HAB-PROFESSOR's picture
we are talking about the NEW OBRYNE, the one that returned and played flawless... why in the world is that OBRYNE not in over Breeze. I say HENRY because at least he'll fight, Larock won't and his conditioning is questionable, and its not just to fight, its to deter the fighting. Hartnel or Lucic won't mess around if HENRY or STEWY are on the ice... same effect as Larock.... and they only play 5 min/game, more time for the other lines. HENRY-STEWY-LAROCK if needed...its the Nuclear Weapon Line.

likehoy's picture
is chris higgins the second coming of niklas sundstrom and joe juneau and radek bonk? great offensive starts to their careers...great defensive forwards for the rest. - SAKU KOIVU'S HAND OF GOD.

Good point.

mastodon's picture
I like Higgins game over the past few. He is doing his job, which is checking/penalty killing specialty. He's doing a great job within his role and if he chips in a few points it's a bonus. One thing though, Higgins probably should never have said he thinks he should be a 40 goal 40 assist type player before last season. That just puts excess pressure upon yourself.

ManApart's picture
It did put pressure on him, but I do admire the balls it took to put himself out there and basically tell people "this" is the standard you should hold me to. Unfortuneately, his ambition was too much for his talent. It's ok though, he's only like 25. He has matured (hopefully) and now he can come into his own as great defensive forward. It is an extremely important role on any team and he should take pride in being a premier PK man and a guy who is counted on to shut down the other teams top line. If he can do that and maybe score 20....that is someone who is invaluable to a winning team. Kind of like a John Madden from a few years ago.

ManApart's picture
It does seem to be that way. His skill set was always that of a great shutdown 3rd line center or winger. In the mold of the coach himself, (even the previous coach)! We just didn't have any established top 6 players, so threw him in there, and he did OK. That is, until this season. He also was always very vocal about wanting to be an offensive star. He got a 3 year shot and there are now better options available to us. Time for Chris to accept what God made him and compete for the Selke on an annual basis.

FeverBoy's picture
Yes, as a defensive forward hes doing a pretty bang up job lately, and i still believe he has more offensive potential not yet realized. But how much would you sign this guy for this summer? same goes for Komisarek?...

ManApart's picture
Hard to say. Not sure what kind of asking price his agent has. He is a RFA, so we don't have to overpay. If he doesn't like our offer, we go to arbitration. He won't do that, because players hate to go that route as of late and his leverage is non-existent because of his numbers this year. I think we could get away with 3 years for 7.5 - 8 million. Komi is a tough one. We definately will have to overpay to keep him. Maybe 5 years for 27.5 mil could work. I don't like it though. How can you give him less after what Hammer is making? I rather forget him and sign Bouwmeester for 6 years at 7.5 mil/year. Very unlikely though. I guess we'll have to just suck it up and sign Komi and hope we can trade him (if we would like)when all are D prospects are ready.

forskis's picture
Not so bad...become Gainey/Carbonneau...all he needs to do now is shot block.

Garbo's picture
"great" offensive start

likehoy's picture
3 20 goal seasons is pretty good. - SAKU KOIVU'S HAND OF GOD.

Garbo's picture
It is good, just not great, like the other two you mentioned. I like Higgins, but to call him great in any regard is a far stretch.

BoomBoomMax's picture
Hey Mr Boone I can't say I disagree with your all around statement when it comes to the team, but I have to wonder... First, I think Markov is as dominant an offensive defenseman as there is in the NHL as of today... For that reason, I do agree that he stands out in our line up, but I wouldn't go a far as to say the rest of our D is mediocre. Right off the bat, Hammer is PLUS FIVE!!! The guy has been playing with the likes of... TOUTOUDOUM!!! ... Breezer a.k.a. The Only Reason I Make The Team is My Outlet Passes and Rhino a.k.a. I Am Big And Strong But Unpolished... That's no small feat! Jorges also plays out of his mind! He's got 19 points, he's + 13, blocks almost 2 shots a game, can skate and pass the puck! The guy is only 24!!! I think he's doing WAY all right... As for Komo, he has been struggling as of late but is still one of best "pure defensive" rear guard in the NHL. If he can turn the puck over a little less and stay focused, he should be just fine... As for Schneider, he sky rocketed our PP back to where it was last year. As long as he doesn't play too many minutes, he does the job. About Carbo playing "The Artiste" with Tanguay and Koivu, well... Kovy was so dominant with Plex and AK46 last year that Carbo just had to give them a chance to play together early in the season. When they didn't produce quite as expected, the line juggling started. Even given that 13-11-27 seemed like an obvious "First Line", with the injuries to Koivu and then Tanguay, there was no way they could be united before Alex came back a few games back... I know, damn injuries!!! Anyways... I think we played good last night and deserved to win. Because we did, we are building some momentum and that's the most important thing! In Bob, we trust!

Talent is great...but without work ethic it's wasted. Confidence is back to where it was after the first 25 games (remember those games oh so long ago). Going into the tough areas and coming out with the puck (and not giving it away). The disfunction appears to have gone. Agree or disagree with BGL comments...did they inspire? I swore after the Leaf debacle I wouldn't watch another Habs game until the playoffs or October...which ever came first! Keep it going!!!

FeverBoy's picture
Finally a win with some character and talent actually showing up. I have to give it up to Ramo though, playing as if possessed by demons and having a career game, came very close to thwarting our efforts to bail out our sinking ship. Well done boys, way to stick with it!!!! ps. How satisfying was it when Artytukin smashed himself in the boards and had to leave the game, priceless!!!

forskis's picture
It is pretty amusing that with all the line combos put up by posters here that NO ONE thought about Tanguay-Koivu-Kovalev....do we all have blinders on or what?

You have to go back in Julien's days to see them paired together otherwise those two didn't like to play together and didn't want to do it either but hard time call for hard measure..... still I am shure it took some convincing from Gainey and the new perspective of being reunited around a player of such quality as Tanguay settled it. The tree put together are giving us a quality line not seen in Montreal for ages....... were they a little younger I would haved prefered watching them over my favorite Habs line of the 70s when Lafleur and Shutt were being centered by Mahovlich even thought they couldn't never had matched Pete's line in term of productivity.... but subjectively speaking they would have overmatched this line specially when Mahovlich was later replaced by Lemaire.... anyway even as it is, they make me look forward to the next game and yes, with some regrets that it had not been done earlier considering the rather unspectacularly dull season we had.

likehoy's picture
uhh i said: tanguay - koivu - kovy all the time when tanguay was flirting with coming back and then kovy getting benched. sorry to burst your bubble. i also said pleks and the kostitsyns...but that hasn't worked out yet maybe put the higgins - pleks - kostitsyn line...does anyone remember how sick they were at the end of the '06-07 season? - SAKU KOIVU'S HAND OF GOD.

BoomBoomMax's picture
With the injuries to Koivu and Tanguay, it wasn't even possible to get them all on the ice at the same time until lately... In Bob, we trust!

TheDagger's picture
We were all blinded with the "Koivu and Kovalev can't play together" statements, myself included.

forskis's picture
Agreed.

Gr8stFranchizEvr's picture
Tanguay is the key to that line. It's true that without Tanguay, Koivu & Kovy don't jive well on a line.

mastodon's picture
Hah, that is true. For some reason, and I do not know why, I always thought Koivu and Kovalev didn't play well together or something. I know this debate has raged on before, but I never knew why. However, I think Tanguay is the key to that trio working now. Koivu can dig it out and get possession while Kovalev and Tanguay make awesome plays to score. I just hope it keeps going.

Lets put things in perspective about Kovalev. Has he been a little more opportunistic recently! Yes! But to sign him for another 2 years ? Let's get serious. He still is not doing the little things. For a guy that is his size he loses the puck an awful lot along the boards. He dipsy doodles far to frequently ( like the rds guys said - morning glory) and usually ends up losing the puck. Do you see him give up when checkiing a guy- often! When this guy feigned injury against the Bruins and left the puck at the blue line for Souray.. well it told you everything you need to know about this guy. Both he and Koivu have lost a step. These guys will be gassed in the playoffs if 20 min is expected to be the norm. Koivu is frequently sucking wind. And up until recently he was not a threat off the rush. Tanguay is clearly the guy playing the role of centre man . Distributing the puck really well. And Vinny at his $$. Don't think so. Go out and get 2 or 3 guys for that amount. Some guy posted earlier that this contract could be a burden for years. Worse thing that can happen is to give up some of those key prospects for him. What was the point in drafting and puting a plan together. He is not going to get you the cup alone... Imagine PK Subban and Markov in a couple of years!

Qais's picture
Marky is 29 and in some years he is 35 so better in 2 years :) 14

ManApart's picture
Like everyone, I do like the spark the new first line has given us over the past few games, but I am inclined to agree with you on Kovy. I think it is time to let him go and do something better with the 4 or 5 million it would take to retain him. He is just not the kind of guy we need on our first line. Kovy is Kovy and IMO he is fun to watch at times, but is not the one that will get it done when need be. Two games with Tanguay leading the way doesn't erase a season of uninspired play. He's also not getting any younger and does not have the speed to play the type of game he wants to play. I'm also with you on Vinny and his contract. I think taking him on would be a huge risk that we just don't need to take. What about Kovalchuk next year. He's pretty much the best player in the league after the big three. That guy would flourish here. It would be insane!! You see how the fans react to Kovy when he scores 20, imagine the new and improved Kovy(chuk). I wouldn't mind looking into Gaborik either. The guy never stops scoring (when he plays.) Maybe we can get a discount on a one year deal because his value is kinda shot. 6 mil for one year? I would do it.

Gr8stFranchizEvr's picture
or Kovalchuk... but, I think he's got another year on his contract with the Thrashers.

ManApart's picture
He does have one more year, so it will have to be at trading deadline next year or July 1st 2010. I'm almost sure he wouldn't want to remain in Hockey hell, so we would have as good a shot as any. Worth making sure we have apt capital in store when the time comes!

FeverBoy's picture
yeah, hard headed player making it harder to give him a contract in his UFA year by playing a very mediocre game. I think his play spoke volumes for him this year, but im not really sure what point he was trying to get to. Did he hate carbo? Didnt like his linemates? Did they change his favorite glade plug in air freshener scent in the room? Either way , its hard to give him a contract right now, but be patient me thinks, wait until we play several non bottom feeding teams and gauge from there. He is a talented individual, no need to throw him away too quickly especially if we can get him at a fair price for even a year contract.

FeverBoy's picture
just dreaming, but both Sedins and Franzen could available come UFA time. Imagine that line!!!

ManApart's picture
Personally, I'm not a huge fan of the Sedins. They are good, but just not true impact (star) players. Especially as they are asking 7 mil each. 14 mil for those two.?!! No way! There are a ton of smarter, more efficient ways to spend 14 million

FeverBoy's picture
yes, 7 mill was not in my fantasy assessment. I was thinking of somehow convincing the Sedins and franzen to take 16- 17 million combined. Just wishful thinking

RiverviewCanadien's picture
Nobody is doubting some of the inabilities of him, but all players have them, no player is perfect at every aspect of the "game". But the last time I checked, he is still 2nd in points and has been all year...so I think we need him for a few more years. I am not saying to give him 5.5 per, he wouldn't expect that. And they did not look that gassed last night. Why does Tang look good on those passes, because Kovy is on the receiving end, he can shoot the puck...hmmm I am glad it was Kovy with Tang and not someone like AK46, because, none of the those goals would have went in. You have to look at the big picture, those 3 players are playing BRILLIANT hockey and are developing some great chemistry, they are all playing like a team (even Kovy and all the bashers can't argue that)

Gr8stFranchizEvr's picture
we don't really know if those goals would have gone in if AK46 were on that line instead of Kovy. AK46 has a great scoring ability, too, don't forget. I would only keep Kovy for another year for under 3.5 million/year. Otherwise, go play elsewhere. He's due for a good year next season if he continues in his typical pattern.


Qais's picture
Ha! Where's Kovalev? 14

ZepFan2's picture
I'm loving the name given to the big line, 'The Aspirin line' (ASA)...giving the other teams headaches. ------------------------------------------- "I think when you talk about the Canadiens, you have to put the word family in front of it." - Patrick Roy

Habsrule1's picture
I hope we sign our first line all to 2 year contracts asap with them all getting close to or slightly more than $5M per season, making it a first line costing roughly $15M. I think that line could contend for tops in the league for a couple seasons. If anything, we need to add a couple strong 2nd line guys and 1 or 2 top 4 D-Men....and a veteran goalie to replace Halak (who will be traded in a package for those 2nd line guys). Where D'Agostini and Pacioretty will fit in exactly, I'm not sure. Go Habs Go!! "I can't hear what Jeremy (Roenick) is saying because my Stanley Cup rings are in my ears" - Patrick Roy

mrhabby's picture
even if we make playoffs..keep tangs and let either kovy or saku go.time for a change. as punkster said use in trade for a dominant centre or dominant d-man. were small down the middle, that bugs the hell out of me.

punkster's picture
Oooo...not likin the "let either kovy or saku go" statement. If it were to come down to that sort of decision then I'd let Kovy go since Saku means more to the team and is more consistent. But I'd hate to lose both. And do we really have to lose either? I don''t know...I'm so confused...went out for beers with my kids after we watched the game last night and the brain ain't up to high finance today. Oooooo...gonna have a wee nappy now. I'll check back later and see if the synapses are firin' a bit better....Oooooo.

mrhabby's picture
p.whatever shakes down it will be an interesting summer.

Habsrule1's picture
I'd still prefer to keep all 3, but hey....that's just me. Go Habs Go!! "I can't hear what Jeremy (Roenick) is saying because my Stanley Cup rings are in my ears" - Patrick Roy

mrhabby's picture
i would not be surprised if thats what happens...sigh.

RiverviewCanadien's picture
well if they sign for 4 per, that is 12 million, what is so wrong with that. This team is not going to be able to replace that line with just trades...

mrhabby's picture
the dollars make sense. but i would like to see a change.a top dman and size down the middle have to be adressed. does not have to be vinny but more size.

punkster's picture
Trade bait?