Press review

posted by at 12h42 EST on Nov 10


• The hit on YouTube and Milan Lucic belting Van Ryn.

• In the Globe and Mail, David Shoalts says Tom Kostopoulos should be punished for carelessness

• Mike Van Ryn will be examined by former Montrealer Karen Johnston, a concussion expert 

• In the Toronto Star, Damien Cox writes both players were doing their jobs 

•  In La Presse, François Gagnon on the Canadiens' lack of discipline and poor work ethic

• In the Journal de Montréal, Marc De Foy looks at the season to date 

• Scott Burnside on the underachieving Canadiens

• SI's Allan Muir on the league's best bargains, including Mike Komisarek: For $1.7 million, the Canadiens have a top pairing defender in Komisarek, who leads league in blocks, is seventh in hits and is a solid presence in his own zone. 

•  Marc-Antoine Godin on $4.9 million worth of fourth-liners

• A great Stephen Brunt column (that's redundant) on Ron Wilson 



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Chorske's picture
Yikes, aren't we usually the OVERACHIEVING Canadiens? What a difference a year makes.

jabber39's picture
I keep looking at TK's TKO on Mike Van Ryn...People in the media are making Kostopoulos seem like an axe murdered...I'm thinking it's gotta be because it happened against a Leaf...I'm not saying TK was not at fault...it was a clear hit from behind...Van Ryn lost God knows how many teeth and got concussed...No way you can let TK off scot free and he does deserve atleast 1 game...All I'm saying is...the media (mainly in Toronto including the Toronto Sports Network (TSN) are making the hit worse than it was...the hit...the intent to injure...they're making a Sean Avery out of Tom Kostopoulos... I've looked at the hit many times...In TK's defence he finished his check...he didn't drive his elbows into the back of Van Ryn's neck...He didn't lift his feet while hitting...Van Ryn did absolutely nothing to protect himself...he had time to elude the hit instead he turtled with his face towards the boards...He made the hit worse than it was and caused himself more damage...damage alone is causing the controversy here...wanna know why? Here's Proof!!! Why the hell isn't anyone talking about what Grabovski pulled in the crease on Price? Was there no intent to injure? The guy tries to 6 inch a future star player...injure the future face of the habs...What the hell was that? NO CALL...CBC doesn't even show it...Don Cherry did though which surprises me that he would make a Leaf look bad...That was clearly premeditated...there was clear intent to injure...Wanna talk about careless? That's was ludacris!! You wanna tell me that gets no suspension? Hey you're honor...I blew up my neighbor's car but unfortunately he wasn't in it so what i did was fine...BS!! The league has a lot of reviewing to do on its rules...If they let guys go around and 6 inch anyone they please as long as they miss...No one is talking about Grabovski cause he intended to injure but didn't...and Kostopoulos looks worse cause he didn't intend to injure but did...Luck of the Irish...no...Luck of the Leaf (doesn't apply to Championships though) Knowing is Half the Battle...

gmd's picture
Totally agree with you. I'm still wondering why nothing was said about Commodore's total intent to injure A. Kost with his cheap elbow shot in the Columbus game.

jabber39's picture
Even better example in Mike Commodore on Friday night...You're right!... Knowing is Half the Battle...

The NHL Morning Papers (Monday Edition) : Journalist Mark Zwolinski - Is he Accusing the Habs of Bullying his Beloved laffs, Olaf Kolzig faces his Ex Mates and Bruins survibe a Difficult Early Schedule .. by Ari ..... http://www.illegalcurve.com/2008/11/10/nhl-morning-papers-monday-edition... .................................................. Spector on Whose Getting Sundin and Shanahan ..... http://msn.foxsports.com/nhl/story/8777336/Getting-Sundin,-Shanahan-is-t... .............................. The New York Times Morning Skate : Unruly Habs, Rashomon Rangers and Roberto-O .. by Stu Hackel ..... http://slapshot.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/11/09/the-morning-skate-rashomon-...

24 Cups's picture
Bryan - For the first time in his career, it would appear that Sundin has held on to his cards too long, even after initially being dealt a great hand. As for Shanahan, it would appear that there is very little left in his gas tank - in fact, the red warning light has been on since last spring. Might be time to retire with a sense of grace, while he still can. Going For The Brass Ring - 25 Cups In 100 Years

Steve - Sundin will be centering Higgins and Kovy before xmas and Lang will be on RW with Saku and Tanguay while Pleks is with the brother act. Shanny hasn't played with the same edge since his concussion.

twocents's picture
Can that be arranged from a rocking chair?

24 Cups's picture
LMAO - you know our crusty Carbo critic all too well! Going For The Brass Ring - 25 Cups In 100 Years

Hoegarden's picture
Nice to see HIO mentioned a couple of times in the NY Times article.

24 Cups's picture
Speaking of redundant, let me say that Stephen Brunt's article is a great read. Redundancy squared, if I don't say so myself:-) Going For The Brass Ring - 25 Cups In 100 Years

Exit716's picture
There's a stinging review of Bouwmeester in the SI column, from an anonymous NHL scout saying he's got a weak point shot and hasn't developed as much as hoped.

gmd's picture
Yeah for all the complaining people do about Brisebois and Ryan O'Byrne, Bouwmeester isn't much better: Bouwmeester- 15 games 0 goals, 3 assists, minus 3 Brisbois- 10 games 1 goal, 1 assist, plus 1 O'Byrne- 9 games 0 goals, 2 assists, plus 2

Vid's picture
Interesting article on our millionaire 4th liners. I was at first excited at the signing of Georges Laraques but so far he hasn't really delivered for the amount of money we're paying him. There probably isn't much we can do about it this year but I suspect we'll let go of a lot of our current 4th liners or sign them for less than a million each. I'd like to see Dandenault back on D just to see what he can do there for a game or two. Whether our team can push themselves to the next level will depend strongly on the younger players particularly the performance of the Kostitsyn bros. It seems that when they don't put up points in a game our overall team play is poor. Guys like Koivu, Kovy & Tanguay are veterans that are playing at high levels so you can't expect much more from them. After being best in the West last season, Lang's been struggling in faceoffs, any ideas why? Markov has been a beast offensively but defensively he's been awful. I don't know why the only thing I'm sure of is that sometimes he looks a bit slow. Hamrlik is certainly the key to our D but Markov has to play much better defensively. He's shown he can do it so he just needs to get back to that level. OB was pretty good for us last season, so what's changed this season that has him struggling? As for our coveted right point trigger man. I think we need to have a bit of patience. Players who occupy that position will need to practice getting hard slappers on net. Before Souray's 26 goal season, he was notorious for missing the net with his canon slapshot. It took him multiple seasons before he managed to learn how to direct it on net. Still our pp has relied on that play way too much. It's so predictable that teams have learned how to nullify it. We need more variety in our pp options.

Blame 1.7 million on Carbo for forcing his ex roomate on the team. Dandy has proven on THIS team he is a more effective player than Breezer and apparently OB yet we won't play him at the position we signed him because of Carbo's selfishness. Dandenault has over 900 games played, I don't hear him asking for special treatment toward his milestone.

Hoegarden's picture
Vid, Carbo made a strong and clear statement the other day the "Our top players must deliver". The kids on the team are not to blame IMO. EA; everyone likes to dump on Lats for coughing up the puck but when Lang,Kovy or Koivu do the same it is quickly forgotten. I could go on but leadership must come from the top guns not 84, 74 and so on. The team we saw on Saturday is a flashback to the Habs of 06-07. Having the team watch the fiasco of Saturday, prior to the team practice this morning, will hopefully awaken the spirit of winning back instead of being "opportunists" instead of "hard workers" like they were last year. Talent alone won't cut it and they know it. Most teams show up prepared for the Habs this year and consequently the Habs are playing the opponent's style instead of dictating theirs. Let's hope for a better performance tomorrow. Go Habs...!

Vid's picture
I'm not blaming the kids. I do feel they are the key to the Habs becoming a better overall team. When I look at the most consistent point producers up to today I see Markov, Tanguay, Koivu & Kovalev. At least offensively, our top players are doing the job. What was the turning point last season? One could make a good argument that it was when Sergei was called up. We started to win a lot more games and it got Andrei fired up as well. When I look at last year's playoffs, the Boston series in particular, the games that we won often coincided with games in which the Kostitsyns scored. Obviously if any of our veterans falter or slump it will affect our team drastically. What I'm saying is that how well the Kostitsyns play will be the difference between a good team and a great team.

Kovalev is playing at top level?????????????????????????????? you need glasses buddy!

Vid's picture
12 points in 12 games, 5 goals. Granted his defensive play hasn't been the greatest of late. And he could benefit from simplifying his game with less dipsy doodling and low % cross-ice passes but if a point per game pace isn't a high level to you...

Kovy's one of those "Would you just pass or shoot already" to the "Holy crap I can't believe what I just saw!!!" kinda guys....I'll take it.

Xtrahabsfan's picture
Look -it,I love my Habs and watching good hard hitting N.H.L. hockey,"wish all our players would hit,lol" and I know Tom the Bomb was doing his thing,but if the players are injured ,in Hospital,CRIPPLED or worst case DEAD then game over.I don't know Van Ryn or like Van Ryn"LAFF'S" but brain injury,broken hand ,7 missing teeth and broken nose,man the GUY NEEDS A PRIEST.If that hit was any harder from behind,at the very least it would of blown his skates off his feet or???????I would like the Habs to hit real hard,but don't play ignorant like the Fliers ,Laff's etc.It's the 100 year of Les Canadiens ,don't kill that too!

Bash's picture
Like everyone else I was shocked at Saturday's debacle! I am now rethinking our record and wondering if it's inflated. What is going on? Are the LAFFS better than everyone thought? Has Wilson played the "no expectations of glory" card to perfection? What about our "star studded" lineup? Are we worse than everyone thought? Does Carbo hold any cards? Cetainly there are a few jokers in our deck. Bring on some Hamilton hustle and bench Mr.Was (Bris), Mr.Never Was (Dand) and Mr. Never Will Be (Lats). Put Pleks with the brothers Kosti. Welcome the bros to the NHL and remind them that they belong. Put Kovalev with Lang and Higgins. Put Koivu with Tanguay and D'Agos or Pac. Tell George to beat someone up on his next shift if our goalie gets run. Tell everyone that someone must pay immediately if our goalie gets run. Accept that a few lost PP opps are worth the message sent. Tell O'Byrne to get nasty or sit out. Trade a good prospect and draft pick for a top 4 D. Put someone else in the right point shooter position on the PP. (Tanguay?) Play Begin. Okay...I've vented...

Exit716's picture
They need the forwards to come back into the zone for the outlet pass. It's fairly simple really.

HABZ24's picture
true van ryan did turn at the last split second.tom.k. drove thru and finished his check, didnt pull back.tom.k will prob get 3 games or so. habs better wake up and get it together. all the habs d need to play stronger, and as a team stop taking dumb penaltys which end up killing us.go habs go.

Robert L's picture
Nothing Wrong With Kostopoulos Hit http://wwweyesontheprize.blogspot.com/2008/11/nothing-wrong-with-kostopo... Includes video of hit and the Milac Lucic smashing of Van Ryn one week prior.

Bahamut-Prime's picture
Gotta go with Damien Cox on this one if Van Ryn had grabbed the puck and continued skating forward he would've been hit hard but most likely not injured. As it was he reversed and made a back pass and at the speed those players are going it's hard to pull back at the last second because Van Ryn turned. A lot of hits from behind I've seen are because the player getting hit tries to do something a little fancy and turns his back right as he's about to get hit. A game misconduct and a short suspension are requisite and probably won't hurt the habs to much but I don't think there was anything wrong with that play.