Video update: Kostopoulos suspended 3 games
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Submitted by nightmare_49 on Tue, 11/11/2008 - 05:30.
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Submitted by nightmare_49 on Tue, 11/11/2008 - 05:29.
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Submitted by SlovakHab on Tue, 11/11/2008 - 04:57.
Poor Ron Wilson.. He is so worried about the safety of the players in the NHL.
I really wished the reporters would have asked him - Hey, and what do you think about Ryan Hollweg - are the suspensions ge gets regularly severe enough?
RW - "Well, you know, Ryan is a really great guy, he plays with an edge, but I bet he never wants to injure enybody. I'd say he never deserves the suspension.. In my opinion, he is one of the cleanest and fairest guys out there."
..It is just so easy to hate the Leafs..
Submitted by Mr.Hazard on Mon, 11/10/2008 - 23:41.
No one is showing the post-game clip of Stajan on TSN saying "I know Kostopoulos a little bit, he's a good guy, he plays the game properly. I think he just made a bad decision, and I'm sure he'll learn from this one quickly"
Ex nihilo nihil fit
Submitted by Nahlsy on Tue, 11/11/2008 - 00:05.
Same Stajan that flopped around in the 3rd period like he was shot, pretending he was hit with a stick, then got back up when he saw no call on the dive and continued to 'play'? Shame he didn't get called for diving and fined for embarrassing himself as per the league rules but, we all know the rules don't apply to Leafs (ask Grabovski and his buttend)
Submitted by Steve C. on Tue, 11/11/2008 - 00:58.
maybe, but Stajan still gets kudos from me for having a respectful answer like that.
Submitted by Mr.Hazard on Tue, 11/11/2008 - 08:34.
Aye, me too.
Ex nihilo nihil fit
Submitted by DD on Mon, 11/10/2008 - 22:56.
This is objectivity ala a TSN Poll. Talk about a loaded question. Reminds me of another question that was once asked in a certain Province, by a certain Premiere, ah....but I digress......
"Is a three-game suspension for Tom Kostopoulos severe enough?"
Does this question make more sense?
Was the three-game suspension handed out by the NHL to Tom Kostopoulos warranted?
This whole scenario is a joke. Anyone who has ever played the game, and especially defense, knows that you are supposed to use the boards to help absorb a check. You do not, in any circumstance, turn your back, close your eyes and bite the pillow (sorry, I had to throw that in)
It’s too bad Van Ryn was injured on this play, but in my opinion, he is just as, if not more, responsible for this injury as Kostopoulos is. Tom K was only doing his job. If he doesn't finish that check, as he does dozens of times each game, he might as well catch the next bus to Hamilton because solid fore-checking and hard hitting are part and parcel of his job description.
The NHL should change its name to the BSL.
Submitted by nightmare_49 on Mon, 11/10/2008 - 23:07.
I've been waiting all day for Dave's Rant, lol.
Submitted by DD on Mon, 11/10/2008 - 23:33.
Sorry to keep you waiting so long, Bryan.
Submitted by Number31 on Tue, 11/11/2008 - 00:33.
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Submitted by nightmare_49 on Mon, 11/10/2008 - 22:54.
The St. Louis Blues : Fanny and Freddie Mortgage Saturdays - Fan Bailout Plan ..... The St. Louis Blues are responding to tight economic times with a fan bailout plan.
The team announced Monday that at every remaining Saturday home game beginning Nov. 29, the organization will call the seat number of a fan and pay that person’s mortgage or rent for four months, up to $4,000 total.
Submitted by RudeMood19 on Mon, 11/10/2008 - 23:13.
LOL
Submitted by HabsColor on Mon, 11/10/2008 - 22:53.
TK is my hero!
Laraque's heart seems not here yet; everybody knows why BG acquired him, then if he doesn't want to do the police role, trade him (as a regular player, he is so and so).
From another point, I doubt how Carbo is treating Laraque???????????
Submitted by G-Man on Mon, 11/10/2008 - 22:12.
Both players screwed up on the play. Van Ryn has a concussion + for stopping and turning when he clearly should have cleared the puck and kept skating. Kosto was on the forecheck and skating hard. When Van Ryn pivoted, he popped him too well. He should have eased up a little. Now, both players are paying the price.
Gilbert
2008/09 is the season of the Habs
Submitted by RH on Mon, 11/10/2008 - 21:56.
I agree with Damien Cox's article, a few threads down. What was TK supposed to do? He was obviously anticipating that Van Ryn was going to keep moving along the boards towards the net. I don't know how many times I've seen the Habs defensemen going to the boards, in a similar fashion to Van Ryn, and either position themselves to absorb the hit from the fore-checker or, try to side step the hit as much as possible and get to the puck quickly. Josh Gorges is one of those defensemen that I've always thought had eyes behind his head. He's aware of his surroundings while he's battling or trying to move the puck. Same with Markov, Komisarek et al.
Submitted by Xtrahabsfan on Tue, 11/11/2008 - 00:34.
Not all men created equal,ie: Wayne Gretzky was known to have unbelievable peripheral vision and what you are sudjesting is all athletes come from one mold,horsepoopy.Suppose Van Ryn wears contact lenses causing less peripheral or the Fact he's Freeking Human and can make mistakes dose that mean he deserves to go to the Hospital, cause if that's the case we all better live in one.
Submitted by Nahlsy on Mon, 11/10/2008 - 21:31.
Montreal loses the second game of the year and have the best record in the league. Somehow in spite of that, everyone's going to hit the panic button and scream about how terrible they are now? I bet in '76 they bitched when the Habs lost 8 whole games all year too, sheesh.
Basically they had 39 Pims to Toronto's 12, they had a goal called back and lost 6-3 for a 1 game losing streak. Relax already.
Submitted by Nahlsy on Tue, 11/11/2008 - 23:34.
Guess that brief panic is over now *eyes rolling*
Submitted by Habs2win on Tue, 11/11/2008 - 00:42.
it's a 2 game losing streak.
Submitted by Nahlsy on Tue, 11/11/2008 - 01:01.
One was a tie with a shootout giving Columbus an extra point. Habs are one of only 2 teams in the league with only 2 losses and have by far the best record in the Eastern conference (contrary to the Rangers having more points with far more games played.... 10-2 is better than 11-20 for example even if 11-20 has 22 points)
Submitted by Habs2win on Tue, 11/11/2008 - 00:42.
habs are 5th in the eastern conference, and SJ has the best record in the league.
Submitted by Nahlsy on Tue, 11/11/2008 - 01:08.
Check again, the Habs have a better record than any other team in the Eastern conference (you forgot to factor in the massive number of games in hand they own I am guessing)
SJ is a fraction ahead of the Habs upon review, Habs are at .750 while SJ is clicking in there at .813. The second best record in the East would belong to Boston and Buffalo at .679 right now.
Submitted by WindsorHab-10 on Mon, 11/10/2008 - 21:31.
The NHL must introduce "no touch icing" soon before some players have a career-ending injury being hit from behind.
Submitted by Steve C. on Tue, 11/11/2008 - 01:14.
they have already happened. Minnesota's Kurtis Foster broke his femur last year. I don't expect him to be back. Tony Granato almost got himself killed. It was a miracle he came back.
They always say "one day somebody's gonna get hurt"
Isn't one person, for example Kurtis Foster, a somebody???
Submitted by WindsorHab-10 on Mon, 11/10/2008 - 21:19.
Good for you Tom, taking responsibility for your actions, apologizing and wishing Van Ryn well. That's a classy move that needs to be recognized.
Submitted by Number31 on Mon, 11/10/2008 - 21:27.
Agreed. Half the players that do hits which bring about injuries of such never even say a word save for "it's part of the game"... I still remember a grinning old Bobby Clarke defending a vicious hit that Downie threw (the 20 game suspension one).
Submitted by BIG-D on Mon, 11/10/2008 - 20:35.
Some one in here read that Price said he wants out of Montreal.
Can some one please give me the english comments from Price cause I can't read French..........
Submitted by Jim M on Mon, 11/10/2008 - 20:40.
You can read the satirical piece by Otter on page 2. Look for LaDePresse.
Submitted by Nahlsy on Mon, 11/10/2008 - 21:20.
The same paper that reported the fictional article about Balsille wanting to buy the Habs? Have they been hiring reporters from the National Enquirer lately?
Submitted by The M on Mon, 11/10/2008 - 22:35.
someone give it too tsn and THN, they'll have it on page one
Submitted by BIG-D on Mon, 11/10/2008 - 20:49.
I can't find it...........
Submitted by Jim M on Mon, 11/10/2008 - 20:54.
Big-D
It has moved to page 3 because of additional posts.
Submitted by BIG-D on Mon, 11/10/2008 - 20:55.
I can't even find page 1 Jim.
Could you please post the link?
Thanks
Submitted by HabsFan2 on Mon, 11/10/2008 - 21:02.
Here you go Big D...
LaDePresse — Nov. 10 — Montreal, QUE
Does Carey Price want out of Montreal? Is he looking to follow in the footsteps of Patrick Roy and demand that he be traded? After the pounding he took Saturday night against the Leafs, who would blame him? In an exclusive interview with LaDePresse, Price was reluctant to go on the record, but he was clear about one thing: he doesn’t much like what he’s seeing in front of him.
“All the pundits said we’d have a good team this year, and in some ways we do. But Saturday night’s game with the Leafs shone the light on some glaring deficiencies that we have, and I don’t know that there’s any plan to correct them.”
Asked to identify those deficiencies, Price was circumspect.
“Oh, I don’t know. I guess if you look at things statistically, you might get some clues. Like us being outshot 40-20 by Toronto. Or the fact that Toronto got three goalie interference calls in the space of 10 minutes. Things like that might point to a problem with our defense, but I’m just a kid from western B.C., what do I know?”
Price has reason to be concerned. The Canadiens have been routinely outshot this year and haven’t even had to play many of the league’s top teams yet. The team has no bona fide checking line to go up against opponents’ more dangerous forwards. The team’s defense is relatively small in size and shallow in depth. And its scoring and power play are not what anyone expected them to be. Plans for a 25th Stanley Cup parade are most definitely on hold.
“I’m not saying I’m going to leave in mid-game and march up to George Gillette’s suite and demand an immediate trade or anything,” Price said, “but if any of you press guys have his cell phone number, I’d like to keep it handy.”
What would help keep Price in Montreal? Are there any specific things he’d like to see the team address? There are plenty.
“Well, for one thing,” he said, “I’d really like it if we had some defensemen who could, you know, play defense. When I think of the word defense, I think of forts, cannons, impenetrable walls, boiling oil. Our defensemen are more like those little gnats we have out in B.C. that buzz around and try their best to annoy you but don’t really amount to anything.
“If possible, I’d also like to spend a little less time underneath opposition forwards who’ve crashed into me, sent me flying into the net, and have wound up on top of me, breathing their garlic breath in my face. Five times that happened Saturday night – though it was only called on them three of those occasions – and nobody on my team seemed to care. Where I come from, we stick up for our own better than that.”
Phone calls to Canadiens GM Bob Gainey were not returned by press time, but we did manage to reach the team’s coach, Guy Carbonneau, who was kind enough to respond to our questions while being fitted for some new suits at Moore’s. In Carbonneau’s mind, Price’s complaints are not completely without merit.
“I wondered how long Carey was going to stand for getting knocked over like that,” Carbonneau said with a chuckle. “Wider pinstripes, please… Oh, and I’m not a bit surprised that he’d like to see our defense strengthened. You guys in the press don’t get to see the welts and bruises this kid has, but those of us in the locker room do. He may be 20, but he has the body of a 40 year-old veteran of the Battle of the Bulge. Charcoal! I said charcoal! Not verdigris!”
Asked if he planned to play backup netminder Jaroslav Halak more often in order to get Price out of the line of fire, Carbonneau sounded unsure. “I might, but I probably won’t. I mean, if it means losing Carey, then we’ll probably put Jaro in there more. But Carey can’t have it both ways. He can’t tell me that he wants to play every night, and then gripe when they light him up for 6 goals just because his defense decides to go tour the CN Tower.”
Price’s fellow players were reluctant to comment on the young netminder’s complaints, but a few agreed to comment off the record. One of the Canadiens’ larger defensemen (a fellow with a professed fetish for purses) said: “I don’t know what he’s complaining about. The guy makes more than three times what I make and he’s younger than I am. When he stinks the place out, nobody’s on GoHabs.com saying he should be sent to the minors. But all I have to do is trip over a skate lace and they all want my head. If I were him, I’d pipe down and just concentrate on doing a better job between the pipes.”
A veteran forward took a more philosophical view of things, saying: “Carey is a young player. In time he will learn, as I did learn, that no one can give 100 percent every game, every week. The hockey season is just too long. Some nights, the whole team will try. Other nights, just half the team will try. And some nights, like this Toronto game, only he will try. We players never know what schedule our teammates are on. Is it their night to try or are they on an off-night when they are not planning to try? It can be very confusing, especially to a younger player. Take me, for example. Even though it is a contract year, and I will become free agent at end of season, I still do not try every night, much less every shift. This would be madness, not to mention tiring. It is one of the most important lessons I have tried to instill into the minds of my young protégés from Belarus.”
Fans of the young netminder are hoping that Price stays around a while — at least long enough to bring the club its 25th Stanley Cup. “Price is a god, said 30 Nilan, a poster at the Gohabs.com website. “ It would be nice if he’d drop the gloves once in a while and defend himself, but other than that I have no problem with the guy.”
Only time will tell how long Carey Price is destined to wear the bleu, blanche et rouge. But one thing does appear certain: the Canadiens are going to have to do a better job of protecting their young star if they want him to stay around for long.
“Carey Price has won a Canada Cup, he’s won a Calder Cup — he just used to winning,” said another Habs player (who happens to wear an extra C on his sweater). “He came here because we drafted him and he had to, but that doesn’t mean he doesn’t want to win. He does want to win — very badly. And if he doesn’t think that he can win here, he may certainly want to consider going someplace where he can win. Personally, I don’t understand that point of view at all. I’ve been with this team for quite a while and have always been down with the fact that we would never win. But I guess it’s different strokes for different folks. Come to think of it, though, if Carey does demand a trade to a contender, maybe he’ll put in a good word for me! When you get right down to it, there’s nothing really wrong with playing for a good team and winning, I guess. Is there?”
Where would Price want to go if he left the Habs? He’s not saying, but this much is clear: it won’t be Russia’s KHL.
“Never,” said Price. “Not in a million years. I’d play professional roller hockey before I’d go there. Have you seen what Russian players consider a tough defense? I wouldn’t want to pay in front of six Russian defensemen for all the rubles on earth …”
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When you talk about the Canadiens, you have to put the word 'family' in front of it." - Patrick Roy
Submitted by Sakuismyhero on Mon, 11/10/2008 - 21:50.
Kinda lowers my respect for Price to talk that way about his defensemen no matter how true that might be, I'd be offended if I were his teammate...
Submitted by Number31 on Mon, 11/10/2008 - 22:09.
omg dude...it's a JOKE written by someone, not Price himself...
Submitted by Sakuismyhero on Tue, 11/11/2008 - 00:14.
ahhh thank god, sorry sorry sorry lol didnt read the fine print
I was so surprised Carbo would let Price even say that kinda thing, lol
Submitted by BIG-D on Mon, 11/10/2008 - 21:14.
Thank God that was only "JOKE".....
I just bought a Price Jersey.........
Submitted by RH on Mon, 11/10/2008 - 21:30.
That woulda' been pretty "Price-y" had he really left huh? I, personally, always get antsy about buying jerseys with names on it. Especially at the price they go for.
Submitted by BIG-D on Mon, 11/10/2008 - 22:46.
I only paid $150 for mine........
Submitted by New on Mon, 11/10/2008 - 20:10.
Three games is fair, mainly because you can't take back what happened. To me it looked like the puck didn't follow along where Van Ryn and Kosto thought it was going. Instinct turned Van Ryn back, and instinct committed Kostopoulos to that check.
Van Ryn is a good player and he wanted that puck. Kosto wanted to take the player and pop out the puck on the boards. The puck just didn't skitter along like your eyes said it would. Puck goes, different story, shoulders into the boards, battle for the puck, good play.
Stuff happens.
Submitted by Hockey11 on Mon, 11/10/2008 - 20:17.
Thank you.
Submitted by Habs2win on Mon, 11/10/2008 - 19:55.
well at least we have the Alouettes. who thinks the Als will be in the grey cup and win it?
Submitted by JasonM on Mon, 11/10/2008 - 19:44.
Serious question : Do you guys believe if Van Ryn wasn't in a Leaf jersey the punishment wouldn't have been 3 games?
Submitted by Number31 on Mon, 11/10/2008 - 21:09.
Actually you can chew on this and tell me what you think about somewhat biased editorial reporting (over-exagerration is a "blood heap"). Time to crack down on the careless (Globe and Mail)
I'll also note that TSN reported half the story (one-sided: the Leafs side) while ESPN gave both sides with full quotes.
Another thing to note: Van Ryn was put THROUGH the glass by Lucic, in a hit from behind, just a few weeks ago. It would seem this unfortunate player had a date with destiny with the boards. Whether by Lucic, Kostopoulos, or on their trip West via Bertuzzi, Phaneuf, whoever. Carelessness isn't just in the delivery of hits, it's all around. And yes, call me paranoid, but ever since the Baby Leafs have been brought to light this season, it seems to me the NHL has pinned them as the darlings of the game and that we must all pity them somehow because they're not "strong" and any act of breathing on them will result in a penalty or suspension. For the rest who get hurt, all they'll says is "keep your head up, junior". (Kostitsyn, Sutter, Carle......). So to me, it seems the League is picking it's battles. I don't recall such coverage or outrage when Bergeron was knocked out for the year.
Three games is fair enough I guess, despite no malicious intent and it wasn't an obvious Hollweg-y cheapshot... He knows he did wrong but there really wasn't any way he could have changed direction or stop on a dime in the millisecond that Van Ryn turned and bent over knowing full well who was coming in, and as the hypocrites in the league are planning to curb such hits, this is to be expected. Though I doubt they'll ever fix it, they want the hits but don't want the injuries and frankly you can rarely have one without the other. Jones got 2 when he hit Bergeron.
I'd also suggest everyone who hasn't read it to check out Dryden's book The Game. He has an entire chapter connected to the violence the League has allowed to get out of hand...
Submitted by showey47 on Mon, 11/10/2008 - 20:34.
had it been a leaf player getting hit a hab player from behind and a hab player butt ending toskala. There wouldn't even be talk about the hit from behind anywhere other then here. Last time i checked butt ending was also a major penalty.
Submitted by RiverviewCanadien on Mon, 11/10/2008 - 19:41.
This is BS!!!
So now it is the injury that is punished not the action...wow, the NHL is doing a great F'n job
Sauer's hit was worse, plain and simple, and not even a penalty?
TK's hit, how could he have stopped, Van Ryn is a pussy and did not want to get hit, so he turned, I guess he learned the hard way.
Too bad for Tom, this is not right...he should not have any games suspended
Submitted by Hockey11 on Mon, 11/10/2008 - 19:56.
Again
The REFEREE did not call a penalty when AK was hit, TK had a major, a minor and a game ejection. That is the difference.
Submitted by Mr Dobby on Mon, 11/10/2008 - 20:42.
hit from behind vs hit to the head........it's different
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Submitted by showey47 on Mon, 11/10/2008 - 21:00.
both hits resulted into head injuries so both are actually the same. Not sure how they could say van ryn will be out for a month essentially one day after the hit. He will probably be back in 2 weeks and it is seen as a medical miracle in the eyes of cbc, tsn and laff nation.
Submitted by Jim M on Mon, 11/10/2008 - 20:36.
Really? Do you remember Chris Pronger getting a one-game suspension for elbowing Holmstrom in the 2007 playoffs? Niedermayer got the penalty, but upon review, Pronger was revealed to be the culprit.
Submitted by Blitzen on Mon, 11/10/2008 - 19:38.
I think a few guys need to get a message. Sit Komi for a game for example. Markov must be tired of playing with him. Komi has played horrible hockey since his injury last year but it usually gets covered up by Markov's play.
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Submitted by HAB-PROFESSOR on Mon, 11/10/2008 - 21:40.
I guess you didn't see the txt book KOMI hit he layed on TSLUTSKY...
look in the photo's section and you'll find the komi you know.
Submitted by Timo (not verified) on Mon, 11/10/2008 - 20:32.
Agree. I've been saying since last few games of the last season - Komi is not the Komi we know. If he is still injured perhaps he should sit a few games to let it all heal, while the season is young. if he is 100% healthy then he needs to start playing like he used to and be a force. Ton of respect for all the shot blocks, but opposition is not afraid of him. If punk like Grabovski can stand in front of the net and butt end Price, somebody is not doing their job.
Submitted by WindsorHab-10 on Mon, 11/10/2008 - 21:28.
Right as usual Timo. With the Leafs playing the Flames tomorrow, may be one of them can take care of that punk Grabovski.
Submitted by RetroMikey on Mon, 11/10/2008 - 19:51.
Excellent comment Blitzen and I agree with you 100%
Mike's not the same guy after he came back.
Where's that Scott Stevens type of guy he's supposed to be?
I have yet to see that in him.
I'm ore concerned that Andre Markov is loggin alot of minutes of ice time, that at one point in the season he will be physically exhausted.
"We will win the Cup only with Carey Price in the nets"
Submitted by Habs2win on Mon, 11/10/2008 - 19:29.
the bottom line is that our team needs more focus on defence. we can't just play offence and forget about defence. The NBA Phoenix Suns tried run and gun without any defence and it didn't work. All offence might be exciting, but ultimately it will only lead to our demise.
Speaking of defencemen, is McLaren still available?
Submitted by madmat411 on Mon, 11/10/2008 - 19:27.
so now here is the question: Where was the suspension when Andrei Kostitsyn was smashed into the board and knocked unconcious? I rest my case!
Submitted by New on Mon, 11/10/2008 - 20:13.
Wasn't much of a trial. You guys real lawyers?
Submitted by Hockey11 on Mon, 11/10/2008 - 19:41.
No penalty was called on the play, I rest MY case.
Submitted by Vid on Mon, 11/10/2008 - 19:10.
Here's a question.
Should any dangerous hit or play regardless of the circumstances committed by a player that causes the injured player to miss at least one game automatically result in a suspension?
Submitted by Gr8stFranchizEvr on Mon, 11/10/2008 - 19:34.
The problem is that not everyone agrees on the definition of a "dangerous hit or play". Look how many people argued over the Sauer - AK incident. The league is supposed to define those words but are doing a shoddy job of it and showing a great deal of inconsistency with their judgments as a result.
Submitted by RetroMikey on Mon, 11/10/2008 - 19:14.
Yup!
"We will win the Cup only with Carey Price in the nets"
Submitted by RetroMikey on Mon, 11/10/2008 - 19:09.
Think about it. What if Ryan Hollweg of the Leafs hit Andre Markov the same way as Tom did and our guy was out for 4 weeks as well?
What's your call people? Should Ryan then be suspended?
"We will win the Cup only with Carey Price in the nets"
Submitted by Number31 on Mon, 11/10/2008 - 21:43.
Hollweg would get an automatic suspension on such. He already received one this year, actually, because he has already done his trademark bonehead hit 2 or 3 times now. He's marked, so there's no arguement on that one.
Submitted by Spider-Man NL on Mon, 11/10/2008 - 19:06.
would someone please tell me why a guy like Ryan Earwig (who's a repeat offender) gets one and two games at a time, and K-Top (who's never done anything like this before and who's not a dirty player) gets three games for a first time offence?
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Submitted by Devin_G7 on Mon, 11/10/2008 - 18:57.
I feel bad for kostopoulos for even being in that situation. What is he really supposed to do? Was he just supposed to skate by van ryn at the last second? that would make it look like van ryn deked kosto out of his jock. Obviously the right thing to do in retrospect is to let van ryn go, but if i saw kosto pass up a chance to finish his check, that would come across as kosto not doing his job on the 4th line as an energy player... and with the habs roster, not finishing your plays can lose kosto his spot on the roster. So it really was a tough situation for kostopoulos, and probly a lose lose situation either way. Also, when it all happens within a split second, people are gunna make the wrong decisions. Tough break
Submitted by Gr8stFranchizEvr on Mon, 11/10/2008 - 18:34.
Any news or commentary on Carbo's or Gainey's reaction? They probably won't let on, but they must be fuming with this one in light of AK's incident last month.
Submitted by JasonM on Mon, 11/10/2008 - 18:41.
Carbo said he'll be appealing it.
Especially since Campbell stated that the judgement was heavily based on the injury and not the action itself as the Leaf player should have and could have protected himself better. This whole situation is hypocritical.
http://www.rds.ca/canadien/chroniques/263325.html
"Bien que j'aie déterminé que Kostopoulos n'ait pas donné une mise en échec à un joueur qui ne s'y attendait pas, son geste a causé des blessures", a expliqué Campbell."
The above quote conveniently cut off the TSN report, of course.
Submitted by The Teacher on Mon, 11/10/2008 - 18:43.
No they probably aren't, because the hit on Andrei was not dirty and the hit on Van Ryn was.
Dirty meaning illegal, nothing malicious, don't get me wrong here.
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Submitted by Gr8stFranchizEvr on Mon, 11/10/2008 - 18:59.
Well Teach, we'll agree to disagree. I've read all your posts on the two hits and I disagree with your view. Whatever, eh!
Nevertheless, Colin Campbell's words should be sharply scrutinized for being hypocritical and biased. If this is how judgments are made, then the league has gone to pot... ( and i don't mean the kind we inhale or don't inhale!)
Submitted by JIMVINNY on Mon, 11/10/2008 - 18:49.
Campbell himself said that the check wasn't the problem, but the injuries caused were. Looking at both hits objectively, a player left himself vulnerable, and paid for it. I think the difference was that Sauer displayed intent, while TK did not. How one deserved a three game suspension and one got nothing, i'll never understand.
Submitted by Mattee. on Mon, 11/10/2008 - 18:18.
Um a little confused here. Not that 3 games is too much or anything, hell, 5 games wouldn't be too much. But, if the basis for this 3 game suspension is that Van Ryn is out a month, then shouldn't have Randy Jones had like a 27 game suspension considering he put Bergeron out for a whole season? It seemed to me that both hits were practically identical (this is me trying to be as unbiased as possible - clearly, the jones hit was 5 times worse) and yet Kosto pays the heavier price. Help me out here.
PS: The 1 game fighting suspension should not factor in AT ALL, it does not say anything about Kostopolous. Repeat Offender? Are you kidding me?!
Submitted by Mr.Hazard on Mon, 11/10/2008 - 18:18.
"We have criteria we use when we look at these hits. … It wasn't a hit to the head. It resulted in a check from behind, which is not legal, and then his head hit the glass. It wasn't late. He (Van Ryn) wasn't unsuspecting. He knew there was a forechecker coming. He had the puck, he expected to be played. He started to reverse direction to evade the forechecker and that's when the hit happened. There was an injury to the player, and the player didn't leave his skates, he didn't jump into him."
-NHL Senior Vice President, Hockey Operations Mike Murphy
At least I agree with that.
Ex nihilo nihil fit
Submitted by habs haven on Mon, 11/10/2008 - 18:11.
I think we should alll be more concerned about our team's play and the remarks made by Price. sounds like the kid really wants out. I sincerely wonder if this team has what it takes to win consistently, and I wouldn't be shocked if we turn back into the team of 2 years ago. Maybe we're a cinderella team, now going back into our rags. last year was a fluke! these are the REAL HABS! a bunch of very lazy euros who would rather sit and count their $$$. Euros(except Detroit) never win cups. When we get a legitimate defence, and north american kids, we'll win the cup, but not until then!
Submitted by Aybara on Mon, 11/10/2008 - 19:36.
Where exactly can I hear these comments from Price?
Submitted by Jim M on Mon, 11/10/2008 - 19:59.
A
Go to page 2 and read LaDePresse.
Submitted by Jim M on Mon, 11/10/2008 - 19:13.
Habs haven
Is the sky blue in your world, or is it always bloody raining? You should change your name to Prophet of Doom and Gloom. I have rarely seen you post one positive comment yet.
Submitted by habs haven on Mon, 11/10/2008 - 19:14.
shhhhhh! you're ignorance is showing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Submitted by Jim M on Mon, 11/10/2008 - 19:30.
habs haven
You know, I actually prefer a childish remark directed at me than your usual garbage about the Habs. This suits your intellect much more.
Submitted by ebk on Mon, 11/10/2008 - 19:18.
I hate the grammar police but seriously before you accuse someone else of showing their ignorance, you might want to get "you're" and "your" straighten out first.
Submitted by Gr8stFranchizEvr on Mon, 11/10/2008 - 19:26.
If you're going to be like that, then you should have used proper punctuation! There goes the pot calling the kettle black. Oh, and did I mention the incorrect tense for the verb "straighten"?
Seriously!!!
Submitted by ebk on Mon, 11/10/2008 - 19:28.
it was a joke, lightning up a little.
Submitted by 24 Cups on Mon, 11/10/2008 - 19:34.
Earl - Looks like it's going to be one of those nights. The flood-gates have now opened after a two game losing streak and a suspension to TTB. I'm off to watch the Golf Channel:-)
Going For The Brass Ring - 25 Cups In 100 Years
Submitted by RetroMikey on Mon, 11/10/2008 - 19:45.
ebk and 24 Cups
I'm going to walk my Lab Sonny (he doesn't like anything put on his head like yours 24 Cups) and I am looking forward to the game tomorrow night against Ottawa to see if they will bounce back.
Hopfully the 70 minute session with Carbonneau and staff woke them up.
We can't take teams lightly anymore.
The media labelling our Habs as finishing first in the Eastern Conference has gotten to their head in my opinion along with these Centennial festivities.
Still the season is early.
Remember our bet Earl!
"We will win the Cup only with Carey Price in the nets"
Submitted by ebk on Mon, 11/10/2008 - 20:29.
lets make that sucker a little bigger Mikey, winner drinks for free at the next summit. Or better yet, Kerley pays for both of us!
Submitted by HabsFan2 on Mon, 11/10/2008 - 18:24.
"and the remarks made by Price. sounds like the kid really wants out."
I honestly hope your kidding. You don't actually buy that do you?
I believe they call it, satire.
"When we get a legitimate defence, and north american kids, we'll win the cup, but not until then!"
What do you call Price, Higgins, Komisarek, Tanguay, O'Byrne, Latendresse, Lapierre, Laraque, Begin...need I go on?
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When you talk about the Canadiens, you have to put the word 'family' in front of it." - Patrick Roy
Submitted by jimbo82 on Mon, 11/10/2008 - 19:20.
Absolutely right man i don't know where you got Price wants out from. Especially when he has become great friends with most of the guys in the on the team. And this idea of north american kids needed to win cup is getting a bit ridiculous.
go habs go!
Submitted by habs haven on Mon, 11/10/2008 - 18:51.
I call O'Byrne, Latalentless, Begin, Laraque-garbage players who won't be here next year!
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