Game 14 (adds audio): Bruins toy with Habs

Exactly!

I agree. SHOOT FIRST, ASK QUESTIONS LATER It seems they are looking for the perfect play, and when they have a good chance to they opt to pass it. Don't know what kind of effort to expect from the Habs. At least freakin' compete! Try and try harder! (#) HABSolut HOCKEY

good point - after the KOVY hit, when Larock was trailing Lucic around the ice asking for permission, he should have just dropped his gloves and grabbed Lucic by the neck, because even if Lucic still declined, that would have been enough to send the message and would have made the highlites around the league, I think the real problem is Carb doesn't want him to take those kind of penalties, Carb is scared to be short handed and doesn't see the long term benefits of that kind of action. Larock would have gone to the box by himself, but Lucic would have ended the game a COWARD, even after the KOMI bout, he still would have been a sleeze ruttut type coward for having declined the BGL. BGL needs his role defined...Carb needs to wake up and stop being a coward, he did the right thing by sending BGL on KOVY's line, but then nothing happened!, you don't ask permission, you challenge and let Lucic look like a fool for declining!..DAMNN!!

we don't have those types of players, they are in Hamilton.

Lucic is just the giant ugly version of Jarkko Ruutu!

we had francos then, now we have lazy euros ^^^I agree 100%. Gainey is not the issue, playing with passion and grit and skill is. les canadiens have the skill part but(for the most part)lack the other...Julien's team was focused and prepared, Carbo's wasn't...that is a huge concern for me!

Your comment in your other post about firing Gainey is just ridiculous and doesn't even deserve this reply. But, I agree with your comment about Komi not having to fight Lucic. Seems to me that after last year's playoffs where Lucic was constantly challenging Komi, Gainey responded by signing Laraque. I have seen almost every game and I've seen Laraque fight ... twice? No clear win, and most disturbingly, he had a chance to drop them with Lucic last night and did not. Laraque stated he wanted his presence to be felt by the other team even when he was not dressed. Well, George, it ain't felt when you ARE on the ice. He also mumbled something about being warned by Colin Campbell so he couldn't jump in and smack Ruuttu when Lapierre got elbowed. So, George, either start dropping your gloves and your opponents, or we drop you from the line up. It isn't like you are bringing anything else to the game. Not that Laraque is a main reason for disgusting play lately, but I had to get that off my chest.

I agree it is the coach's job to get his team ready for the game. They've been playing the "we weren't prepared" card too much, in my opinion, it's a lame excuse, professional athletes practice to prepare for games, and the coach is the one who tells them how to prepare and is supposed to motivate them to win. Regarding Carbo, he was "outcoached" in some games last year and was definitely outoached in the playoffs by Boston and Philly's coach's, but I don't think it has ever been said that Carbo outcoached the opponent in the 2 years he's been here. I think that says a lot about him.

yeah, that was weird about the open ice... against the Bruins??? huh? sounds really strange. don't they WATCH the other teams? ____________________________________________________________ Why don't we have a defensive coach? Insanity? Or arrogance?

I'm not holding my breath on that one. ---------------------------------------------- When you talk about the Canadiens, you have to put the word 'family' in front of it." - Patrick Roy

What ever happened to winning on the score board. Now we got to jump players and get instigating penalties that lead to goals against us and losses! Come brother get a life.

Well Put Mr.Burgundy... Well Put.

Agreed. And who is responsible for making that happen? the same guy that has made a lackluster Laffs team into a decent challenger on most nights. The coach. Or was that Grabovski? lol ____________________________________________________________ Why don't we have a defensive coach? Insanity? Or arrogance?

RetroMikey I find your comments intelligent and provocative. Good reading! I'm not sure what to make of the Habs this year. You're right on when you say the young guns aren't as hungry this year knowing they made the team. Possibly should send down/bring up to send a message. D'Ags has earned the chance. Like w Lapierre last year: when you're too sure of your position complacency sets in. I believe this is what has happened. Komisarek shouldn't be fighting. He should "CONCENTRATE" on his job as a defensive defenseman, NOTHING ELSE!! He gets rattled too easily and gets off his game as a result. Also, I believe the Habs should have a coach for defensemen. Remember Laperrière. Great coach for Ds. We can't do without one. Last year Desjardins was on all the talk shows waiting for the call that never came. He was in training camp in Philly helping their D. Carbo SHOULDN'T have said his team was perfect when he should have said: "ok boys, we're on the right track. Let's continue vs Boston and Philly this week." Maybe after two or three more GOOD games, he could have sent flowers, but not otherwise. Big mistake. Carbo looked more like a former player than a head coach. A little too cocky and sure of himself. Also, we have to lay off elevating a player after one or two good games. The road will be a long one what w so much parity in the league this year. This means a pat on the back, nothing more when a player gets on a good streak. And this should apply to all the players. Obviously Laracque should do what he's here to do. The defense should clear the front of the net. They call this BEING RESPECTED. We're not doing it! The goalies are young. Price and Halak have had more mediocre games than good ones in the past 6-7 games. They both need to learn more about mental toughness, especially Price. Too much hype goes to the head, I say. The team has to stand up for ea other. It ain't happening, aside from Bouillon defending Lapierre the other night. But, the glaring weaknesses have to be addressed. -4th D, the 2 Ks not producing, maybe breaking up Gorges and Bouillon and putting Gorges as 4th. He'll do much better than O'Byrn, OVER THE LONG HAUL. -Lang, I really don't know. I think it's more a question of getting his line to play as a unit. Same w the other two lines, despite individual statistics. It is a TEAM game after all. -Price and most of the players are TOO relaxed. No urgency it seems. We can always rely on our talent. The truth is that it isn't going to work. Julien, if he had coached in Montreal as he is in Boston, wouldn't have been canned. He's evolved as a coach and has his team playing strong defense with excellent players up front contributing offense. His players are playing on the edge, Carbo's aren't. Huge difference. -Maybe it's time to bring up Weber and make a specialist of him. Don't know for sure. Or maybe bring up Henry, big and strong D man to protect the front of the net. The good news is that all this is happening very early in the season. Much time ahead to deal with it. Regards, Georges D

I have to disagree about Lang. He's on pace for 20+ goals, 50+ pts and is 2nd on the team at +6. I think he's doing what a 3rd line centre should. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- If a man speaks in a forest where no woman can hear him, is he still wrong?

I disagree in that we need another D, we could use one but they're not to blame. We don't need a sniper, we need a hard-nosed forward or two. Our forwards cant win us a dirty game. And now as it seems that the powerplay wont be our bread and butter, we need those hard nosed forwards more than ever, we will have to play more like Boston ironically, the teams and games are awful tight, kind like as if it was the end of the year. And also the habs, and Carbo cause its his job, got to get it out of the players heads that they're special, because they truly are not.

Great post. Even last year with the young hungry guys we were obviously vulnerable - it showed in the play-offs. This year, except for the addition of Tanguay and Koivu's play, the team seems weaker. Hopefully a frank conversation that mirrors some of your points is going on in BG's office... instead of a cheerleader convention like some people on this board seem to think is warranted. ____________________________________________________________ Why don't we have a defensive coach? Insanity? Or arrogance?

Blame the media for labelling our team to finish first in the East which has gotten into the team's head as well as the fans believing what they predicted as well. You have to make your prediction based on your knowledge in the current Habs roster and what we have in Habs prospects in Europe and in Hamilton that will pay dividends for us this year and for years to come. I predicted 4th in the East and will stay pat in my decision. I've said all along we'll sip the Cup next year but not this fantasy Centennial season. Don't get me wrong, I'd love the team to win the Cup during this milestone season but it will not happen. Next year people. Carey Price is still a young goalie and he is not in his prime yet and I would hate the fans to place high expectations on him this year that we will run him out of Montreal. "We will win the Cup only with Carey Price in the nets"

you obviously never heard derek sanderson!

lol. :D Gilbert 2008/09 is the season of the Habs

I dont think its wise to dismiss Boston like that, that is a very good team over there, made better by their work ethic and good coaching, whereas we are a very good team made ordinary by lack of work ethic and unimaginative coaching.

>it is disgusting and shows that they are only cheerleaders Hey Pollyanna, a cheerleader is someone who reacts to their team getting their ass kicked by saying "everything is okay, why is everyone complaining??". You're the cheerleader - the ones who are upset are the REAL fans. ____________________________________________________________ Why don't we have a defensive coach? Insanity? Or arrogance?