Press review

posted by Mike Boone at 7h40 EST on Dec 4


• Pat Hickey on Matt D'Agostini

• Dave Stubbs feature on Ed Giacomin 

Guillaume Latendresse is not happy 

Carbo and the media 

• Trevor Timmins on Danny Kristo 

• In the Globe and Mail, Sean Gordon and Paul Waldie report George Gillett has taken out a $75 million high-interest loan 

• Scott Burnside on Alex Kovalev 

• Is Sean Avery finished?

Pat Hickey, Michael Farber, Damien Cox and Bob McKenzie on Avery 

Avery timeline 

Hockey viewership up on all networks




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Habsrule1's picture
I know many fans here do not like Brisebois, but am I the absolute only person on the site that is a touch put off by HAB-PROFESSOR referring to the man as Breezecrap? Do the pros on this site...boone, Stubbs, etc condone this? I know there's the issue of free speech, but it just seems wrong to be this petty. I read all the blogs on the site, and have never once read Boon, Stubbs, or The Other Wing insult players or coaches, whether or not they agree with them. Just curious about your thoughts. Go Habs Go!! "I can't hear what Jeremy(Roenick) is saying because my Stanley Cup rings are in my ears" - Patrick Roy Habsrule

gmd's picture
I'll admit that I wasn't happy when he was resigned for this year but so far I think he has played well. Sure he has had some screw ups but so has everyone else. I actually think Hamrlik hasn't been that great lately. And people don't be giving me that crap about "yeah he's been worse because he's trying to make up for Breeze's mistakes." I think a lot of people are so used to hating Breeze that they watch him too close so that when he does make a mistake they blow it out of proportion. But if another player made the same mistake they wouldn't freak out so much.

Habsrule1's picture
I agree, and even if he has his problems, why insult him like that? Breezeby is one thing, but adding "crap" to his name? No insults at all to OB...thank God for that much! Go Habs Go!! "I can't hear what Jeremy(Roenick) is saying because my Stanley Cup rings are in my ears" - Patrick Roy Habsrule

It was quite humourous to hear Rick Vaive ranting on Off The Record about Avery. You would think the guy had committed war crimes against humanity. Like Vaive has never sat in a locker room. Yeah, it was stupid and classless ... but pease! Talk a bout a tempest in a teapot. GO HABS.

doug's picture
Faux outrage in order to look like a good guy. Like when people follow a fire truck to a fire in the hopes of seeing death and despair so that they can cry for the camera crews and say to other onlookers, "this is the worst thing i've ever seen. oh, the horror." Would take a lot more balls to say "this is much ado about nothing". But no one seems to have them.

TommyB's picture
Had Avery just made his remarks one-to-one on the ice, no big deal. This goes on all the time...ask Carey Price, he'd been the victim of this kind of crap last season. Trash-talk has always been a part of the game. Avery takes it to an entire different level though, baiting the media to bite on his off the wall personna. Actually inviting them to stick a camera and mic in his face because he has something to say...and they know full well it will be something goofy, but they want that "scoop" to sell their particular media. A suspension is warranted in this case, but don't expect it to be lengthy. It was after all just words. More important in this story is how it is all coming out now about how much Avery is disliked by his team mates, regardless of where he has played. Too bad, really...in today's politically correct world there is no John Ferguson, or no Mark Messier, to take care of a guy like this right where it needs to be taken care of...IN THE ROOM. Mike Modano is a great guy, but he isn't the type to take matters into his own hands like that. And what about the other great leader in the room...Ribiero. Yeah, no kidding, that would be a joke.

doug's picture
Agree - sick of the fact that these guys don't like him but don't let him know or management know. Very wimpy style of communication. . . talking about it after the fact. Also agree with point that he made a spectacle about it by calling a press conference. Just think league should have pressured Stars or something. . . very slippery slope with no clear line.

doug's picture
Avery suspension is simply ridiculous and tantamount to censorship. If you're going to punish that - at the league level - then we won't have any players based on on-ice slurs, off-ice behavior (cheating on wife okay? public drunkenness ok?) It's completely ludicrous. I'm a tried and true political liberal. I believe in equality for women, gays, and all races and ethnicities. But I don't think it's my way or the highway or, more accurately, pretend that these things don't happen and when they do "i want those bad people fined." Grow up. . . the world is full of people we don't agree with for one thing or another. Let Avery be dealt with in the court of public opinion and by his teammates, his ownership, and by the reaction he would have faced on the ice. Feminist-apologists (e.g., Bob McKenzie, and, laughingly, Tortorella who is a different form of 'jerk' if not a misogynist) are too wimpy to say this for fear they'll be considered anti-woman themselves. Women know and can judge for themselves. He's a jerk, and jerks often get insecure women or those attracted to bad boys. Is what he said really sexist? I don't think so - I think it was stupid and insulting. But that happens in every place that men congregate without women because boys will be boys and they're seeking a bond/security that makes them cool with other guys so that they aren't considered 'pussies'. I don't hang out with men like that, but I don't need them banished from the island. I vote with my feet. Enough Monday morning morality - usually those who cry the most (i.e. those who "doth protest too much") have something else going on. . . like Republicans who want to ban gay marriage but like to meet young boys in airport bathrooms, or in McKenzie's case, a desire to be perceived as a nice guy.

DD's picture
Sorry, Doug, I don't agree and my political views, which I would say are very close to yours, have nothing to do with it. I have worked in the trades all my adult life, which is probably the last bastion of political incorrectness, so I do not consider myself straight-laced, in fact, far from it. What really bothers me, is the fact that somewhere, someone will have to explain to their child what the term "sloppy seconds" means. Now if Avery would have said this to Phaneuf on the ice, no harm on foul, but to purposely expose this $#it to children, is about as classless as someone can get, as far as I'm concerned. I really believe for our game to survive and thrive we have to get children involved and love the game as much as we do. I have played this game all my life, as a child, it taught me the importance of fair play, of teamwork, and I try to use these lessons into my everyday life. It's too bad these lessons seem to be sadly missing in today's NHL.

doug's picture
While I still disagree, I certainly can't question your motives and think that the advocacy for children in general, and the impassioned last paragraph in particular, were inspiring. Thanks for sharing, Dave.

DD's picture
Thanks Doug. By your diplomatic answer, I'm pretty sure you have taken the some of the same lessons from this game as I have. Let's agree to disagree, but one thing I'm sure we can agree on is it would be nice to watch our guys play a full 60 minutes tonight and smoke these Manhattan pretenders. May the Habs be with you.

mjames's picture
Agree - the NHL blew this big time. If Dallas wants to cut - fine him let them do it and fight it out (compensation) in court. At the most it a sexual harassment issue between employee and employer. And you are so true about your Republican comment. mjames

In that case, I'll take the other side of the argument and respectfully disagree. I'm hardly a prude, so the language or the comment doesn't offend me in that sense, but at the very least it was stupid, and certainly demeaning/offensive to some. Avery deserves what he gets, same as players who are repeat offenders, eventually it should catch up to you. In this case, he knew exactly what he was doing, virtually daring someone to call him on his behaviour, and that's exactly what happened. So no sympathy here. I don't blame the NHL either for taking a stand. The only caution I'd have is that they need to be consistent in all of their rulings, which certainly hasn't been the case. The NHL isn't the NFL, but the latter has seen a lot of garbage when it comes to player attitude and displays the past couple of years. I'd rather not see the NHL go down that path and if Avery's an example of what we don't want to see, perfectly fine by me. If the guys want to brawl and have a good old-fashioned knock down drag em out on the ice, okay. But the other "crap" has no place.

ebk's picture
It's completely ludicrous. I'm a tried and true political liberal. I believe in equality for women, gays, and all races and ethnicities. But I don't think it's my way or the highway or, more accurately, pretend that these things don't happen and when they do "i want those bad people fined." Grow up. . Come on Doug, so anyone who doesn't agree with you needs to Grow Up, that's a little my way or the highway isn't it? I think he should be fined for what he said, I think the suspension for the Calgary game was appropriate, mainly because of the crap that may have happened during the game. Beyond that, I think it's up to Dallas to decide what they want to do.

doug's picture
I'm not in charge so there's no "my way or the highway". I'm just expressing an opinion. As far as your plan, I agree with it more or less. . . just think this was a bit of an overreaction and that if someone else had done it it wouldn't have met with such a quick reaction.

ebk's picture
fair enough. I agree with the over-reaction but still get a little guilty pleasure of seeing an asshole like Avery get some of what's coming to him. Sort of like how I felt when I heard Limbaugh was addicted to pain killers.

doug's picture
hey - don't you insult my idol. Palin/Limbaugh 2012. . . with Hannitty for secretary of state!

Fortunately then, it's not up to you. Grown ups will gather and decide this idiot child's fate. The NHL does not need Avery. He's about to find that out. In a man's game, biting the hand that feeds you is one thing, peeing on it is quite another.

24 Cups's picture
doug - you have raised a lot of valid points. Avery is an idiot but there are a lot of knee jerk reactions going on here and around the league. I'd add more but I have to go and look up 'misogynist'in the dictionary:-) Going For The Brass Ring - 25 Cups In 100 Years

Habsrule1's picture
I think you are wrong. The difference between on-ice & off-ice remarks is HUGE. He represents his team and the league. He insulted not only the opposition, but an innocent by-stander. That is unacceptable, and he will be punished for it. Your "boys will be boys" comment? A pathetic attempt to diminish what he did. He said this on national television. Do women not watch hockey? He deserves whatever he gets, and I think that'll be becoming an outcast and possibly never playing again. Go Habs Go!! "I can't hear what Jeremy(Roenick) is saying because my Stanley Cup rings are in my ears" - Patrick Roy Habsrule

doug's picture
We can agree to disagree without calling me "pathetic" in actions. We simply disagree. . . I think the Stars made a mistake, realized it, and are looking forward to getting out of the contract or shaming him in the minors until he cries uncle. If he loses money for this he should sue. He's a jerk - pure and simple. He wants attention in a pathologic way. But to have suspended him within a day when it takes longer for things like public assault (i.e. bertuzzi) it's laughable. This is not near the top ten offensive things done by an NHL player. . . and yet the punishment may end up worse than Dale Hunter, Todd Bertuzzi, etc., etc., etc. I respect your right to an opinion, although I disagree with it. I don't find you pathetic for expressing your opinion; I do find you patronizing for calling me the same.

Agreed absolutely on the NHL front. The lack of consistency and keeping the punishments in line with the crimes is something they need to address. As for Avery, well, ... he wanted attention, he got it. The reality is that we didn't want to hear the drivel he was tossing out. Now he gets to hear some things he probably doesn't want to either. Seems fair to me.

Habsrule1's picture
I did not say you were pathetic, but I do think that's a bit of a pathetic excuse. In any case I apologize for offending you. I just see it as totally different from any on-ice antics. I think this deserves a 5 game suspension, so nowhere near what Bertuzzi-type things have gotten. I also am fairly sure the suspension will be nothing compared to the backlash of his team and the other teams. Imagine if he was playing for Montreal? Carbo was traded cause he gave the finger on a golf course. Go Habs Go!! "I can't hear what Jeremy(Roenick) is saying because my Stanley Cup rings are in my ears" - Patrick Roy Habsrule

doug's picture
I overreacted - my bad. Was mad about something at work. Apologies.

Only wish some of the Habs were as cranky !!

Habsrule1's picture
It's all good. Hell, you're post was well thought out, and well written. I'm just sick of this guy, so possibly biased. Different opinions are good, and should be treated with respect...I may have overreacted as well. May not be the last time we disagree :-) Go Habs Go!! "I can't hear what Jeremy(Roenick) is saying because my Stanley Cup rings are in my ears" - Patrick Roy Habsrule

D'Agostino - Go to the net? Genius! Can you have chat with the rest of the team who seem to think that every goal should be worthy of TSN's HON award? Avery needs the NHL, the NHL does not need Sean Avery. Have a nice career in a beer league, jerk!

boris420's picture
I got a few links up for tonight's game, enjoy: http://habsonlinetv.blogspot.com/

HAB-PROFESSOR's picture
“Every team needs those guys who go to net and battle,” said D’Agostini, who quickly noted he has done a lot of that in the past. “They have a lot of really skilled players who like to control the puck here and I’ll just try to do the dirty work as much as possible.” WOW! can you believe this kid? he is a genius... where has this kid been? why wasn't he here from DAY 1? my god man I hope his progress continues because what he does is in alignment to Cup run aspirations...an addictive work ethic that can only come from an individual who grasps his chance with a vengeance. We need more of this drive on the team, and there is only one place to get it.... p.s. thanks to HICKEY for the article. 1. We won't be a serious contender until PAX/STEW/CHIP/D'ags/WEB are in the lineup. 2. The BGL effect is pivotal to our success this season. 3. Kovalev is now in his prime...he just needs his linemates to reach his level.

Moey's picture
Woah puckey boy, I'm not taking away from him, but it didn't take a rocket scientest to figure out why Latendresse is sitting in the press box. He's not about to make the same mistake. http://moeymusings.blogspot.com/

ebk's picture
you sure an annoying little f, sorry I mean puck. :)

Chorske's picture
Your posts contain more hyperbole than anyone has ever seen since the DAWN of TIME. ;)

HAB-PROFESSOR's picture
as you've done...we should all learn to speak in the hyperbolic tense! it makes for interesting reading...sometimes I have to read my owns posts for entertainment!

Chorske's picture
I'm glad you amuse yourself ;)

Gr8stFranchizEvr's picture
Avery's NHL life is over! He'll be released from Dallas. Who will want him? Nobody invites a cancer like that into the dressing room. He's done and it's been a very long time coming. Good Riddance, Sean. As for Lats & SK74, they should go back to AHL and regain some form, not as punishment but really more a case of development. Lats is 21 - very young and not beyond taking a bus back to Hamilton for a stint. Love how D'Agostini has been playing so far. I didn't think he had it in him, but it's great to see him where a lot of other players won't go... to the net! It will pay off for him and the team. Here's wishing many more goals to you, D'Ags!

Steiner's picture
TSN to unveil a section of their website dedicated to the Centennial season... http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=258405&lid=sublink03&lpos=topRelated_nhl

HABZ24's picture
bottom line if your play is not helping the team, its hurting the team. lats job as top 2 line player is putting up points. he was not doing that.oh'burn although a learning as he goes rookie was costing us goals. koz jr wasnt scoring goals which we need. if u keep these guys in the lineup what signal does it send other players.send them down send up fresh new blood like dags shakes things up, tells others play hard and smart or ur going down.period. as for that a-hole avery.enough of that punk azz, loud mouth, immature punk kid.with no junior team, send him to russia for ever.hes nothing but negative for his team and the league.he can buy a 4th liner on the siberia stars.

mjames's picture
In my rant yesterday I commented on the immense talent which our team idiot. I pointed out that Carbo has been extremely successful in undermining such young players as Perezhogin, Chips, SK47 among others. I neglected to mention Lats. It seems he is also confused as to what his role is with the team. At the same time , in another article, we have the team idiot complaining that the media and fan converge can undermine the confidence of his players. Please give me a break. This dolt makes it habit of calling out his players after every game. He should take a look at himself. Also I have to smile at the glowing comments about D'Agostini, McDonough and Christo. It is only a matter of time before these guys are called out and undermined by Carbo. Just watch. Motivation is word that is not part of Carbo's vocabulary. I just hope someone on the team or in management is explaining things to these kids. I swear to god Carbo is more immature that any one of his players. I wish Gainey would get involved. I hope they win tonight but with this fool running things who knows which team will show up. If they do lose one thing is for certain - It will not be Carbo's fault. I have kept my mouth shut about Carbo's incompetence for over a year. Enough is enough. I am tired of him destroying the future of this team. mjames

twocents's picture
Do you realize that for his first few years Yvan Cournoyer was only used on the PP and didn't dress every game? It was made evident to everyone that this was due to his defensive inadequacies. How about this quote from Larry Robinson about his first season with the Habs, "During the playoffs, I didn't dress for the series against Buffalo. There were six or seven of us who worked with Floyd Curry. We called ourselves the Black Aces. We worked our butts off and played the Philadelphia Flyers in the next series. I didn't dress in the first game but Laperriere got hurt again and I dressed for the second game." Did you know that Rejean Houle, much like Perezhogin, left the Canadiens for several years to make more money in another league? Do you remember that both Mike Komisarek and Andrei Markov bounced up and down between the AHL and the Habs before really establishing themselves and that their weaknesses were made public by the coaches at the time? Do you realize that no one can be sent down or called up without the approval of Bob Gainey? It seem like you don't. These players weren't ruined. In fact, these things became part of how they developed into high quality NHLers. For that matter, none of the players you mentioned over the last two days, have been ruined so far. If some of them prove to lack the focus, dedication or skill to make it, that will be their fault. These things are often tested in the NHL and it is up to the tested players to rise to it or not. The other option for them is to make an undeniable case for your icetime by working hard and avoiding long listless stretches. Like a Saku Koivu or Tomas Plekanec did. Koivu was benched for a period last year for Christ's sake, did he sulk or whine? No. He responded, he knows the coach's responsibilities and he respects team structure. Sure Carbo could improve in his management of these situations but, it is hardly the unique or dire situation you paint. But your most indefensible comment is this, "If they do lose one thing is for certain - It will not be Carbo's fault." Without even seeing the game you have your scapegoat. How open minded of you. Oh, and by the way, how's Eric Cole doing?

Rice Miller's picture
Excellent post, as usual. I always enjoy your perspective. You should change your name to 'Calmer Heads Prevail'

mjames's picture
From what I understand Cole is not having a good year. that is a surprise. Are you sure Carbo did not coach him a summer league last year. Seriously I do not know what is up with that guy. I think a change of scenery might be in order. I would still take him but would not want to give up much given his performance this year. mjames

Good post. I actually find it fascinating that a lot of people here are fine with letting the youngsters learn on the job, and more or less excuse a lot of the mistakes. Carbo as a rookie coach doesn't appear to get the same consideration, he was supposed to be a genius day one. Having said that ... I don't always agree with his line choices, last year's constant penalty arguing, his seeming inability to prep the team at times, or his inability to adapt on the fly to other team's strategies. But I serious doubt that he's "ruining" players like Lats or SK. There is the notion of earning their spot, and they're not doing it right now. Just because we're in the middle of a youth movement (of sorts) doesn't mean that they're all "entitled". True, lots of vets aren't earning a spot right now either.

Chorske's picture
Yep. Well said.

Chorske's picture
Respectfully disagree. SK was given every shot last year, including more ice time than he would get on any other team- largely because of Carbo's policy in rolling four lines. Unfortunately for Lats and SK, Carbo ALSO believes in results, and that's why those two young guys are riding the pine this year. Do you expect them to get a free pass just because they're young? Also, for every SK and Lats, you completely ignore the Komisareks, the Plekanecs, the Andrei Kostitsyns, who have been given huge responsibilities and have siezed their chances.... Komisarek in particular has benefited from Carbo's tutelage. Not to mention the guys who have seen new life breathed into their game when they joined the Habs, such as Kostopoulos or Gorges. I've posted elsewhere about some of my Carbo gripes, but I really disagree with the contention that he is hampering player development.

HAB-PROFESSOR's picture
wow, someone else here that doesn't wear those rose colored glasses, and has the ba&%*LLS to tell it like it is. Carb and Jack Adams!, what a bloody joke, he destroyed the team last year heading into the playoffs, putting in all his pets and benching the guys that got us that far. I went into great detail last season about our lineup that was successful during the regular season during our 9 and 11 game win streaks, including the historical comeback decimation of the Rangers and the total destruction of both the cheestakes and the bruins, and the fact that Dandy, Breezecrap and Begin (and smoke) were in the press box for 99% of those strings of success. But within days Carb was shuffling and relegating the likes of Ryder, Striet, OBryne and the Kost's to the pressbox, because he is Jack Adams! what a horror when the playoffs started and Breezecrap was on the blue line and ryder/Obryne was in the pressbox...the B's and the cheesestakes loved it... 1. We won't be a serious contender until PAX/STEW/CHIP/D'ags/WEB are in the lineup. 2. The BGL effect is pivotal to our success this season. 3. Kovalev is now in his prime...he just needs his linemates to reach his level.

Chorske's picture
Hindsight is 20/20

Habsrule1's picture
I just happen to totally disagree with shitforbrainsprofessor, but that's ok. Go Habs Go!! "I can't hear what Jeremy(Roenick) is saying because my Stanley Cup rings are in my ears" - Patrick Roy Habsrule

HAB-PROFESSOR's picture
grow up... you sound like the spoiled school boy bully... the one that ends up with a bloody nose by Friday. there is one thing I don't do on this site is insult fellow habs fans personally. I may come across slightly strong or exaggerating in my comments about certain topical players...but I don't attack personally people on this site who make comments or voice their perspective. I think I add an entertainment element to my posts (sometimes) but that is to make it a fun read, and at the same time get a point across. I can easily denigrate to your level but then this site would lose the intellectual debating appeal that it has. so lets not go there. If you disagree with me I think you have 3 options: 1. State a simple fact that debates my point. 2. make an entertaining exaggeration that debates my point. 3. ignore my post which is the biggest protest one can make on here...

Habsrule1's picture
You insult the Habs players, which is as bad or worse than insulting fans. You have interesting opinions (of which I agree with very few) but that's fine. All I ask is you have respect for our players. I was giving you a taste of your own medicine (see your constant insult to Brisebois with how you add to his name). You didn't seem to like it one bit. "the one that ends up with a bloody nose by Friday" Was that a threat? Go Habs Go!! "I can't hear what Jeremy(Roenick) is saying because my Stanley Cup rings are in my ears" - Patrick Roy Habsrule

HAB-PROFESSOR's picture
Hab players are subject to intense scrutiny (all athletes are) - its about their game, not them personally. So they are subject to comments both positive and negative about their play. I don't bash Breeze unless he makes blatant errors...and they seem to be common. This site is to voice your opinion among fellow hab fans on what you see in/on our team, linesups, callups etc....because other than here, nobody else cares about the habs - they just envy them. now to your point, breezedriftfrompositioncrap... Breeze = not my invention but it denotes that opposing players breeze by him, and its close to his name in phonetic terms drift from position = I coined that by noticing that he drifts from position! thus causing odd man situations to the detriment of our team. crap = well that was someone else and we all know what it means...but it is hardly derogatory. so breezedriftfrompositioncrap is not as bad as your making it out to be. and again, I don't comment personally towards posters, in regards to the Friday comment - its just an expression.

Habsrule1's picture
No matter how you try to justify it, having the word crap in the name you have decided to give him is no better than having shit in the name I gave you. The fact is Breezer has not been remotely close to as bad as you seem to want to believe. If you had stats or evidence to back it up (and I don't mean a couple errors, I mean that he has more than others), it would not be quite as bad. If you think he's bad, say so, but to insult him and degrade him for your pleasure is despicable, and worthy of the backlash of real fans. Go Habs Go!! "I can't hear what Jeremy(Roenick) is saying because my Stanley Cup rings are in my ears" - Patrick Roy Habsrule

I totally agree with you 100%. But one things you have to admit is Carb's record speaks for itself. It has alot to do with the core players playing into his system. In the meantime, He is destroying this team by mocking the younger kids motivation factor. C'mon Habs Fans, SK78, Gui, and O'Byrne all should be sent down to Hamilton to get playing time instead of sitting in the pressbox. If their not going to play that night or any other game for awhile, then make it so Carbo. How are they suppose to learn from their mistakes by watching from the pressbox. This is why Gui spoke out I suppose? CAN ANYBODY SHED SOME LIGHT TO THIS MATTER BEFORE THE WALLS CAVE IN ON THE TEAM?

Habsrule1's picture
Funny thing is you mentioned you hope Gainey gets involved. He hired Carbo and he's close to Carbo. He knows what's going on with this team, and has seen fit to keep Carbo. If you respect Gainey as it sounds like you to, trust his judgement. Is Carbo perfect? No. Is he getting better? I believe he is. He's talked to every guy he has benched from what I've heard, and so far it seems Begin is the only one who has really done what Carbo is asking-work. I think Lats is trying and the results are not there. The fact is the Habs organization has decided to have extra guys around, which means many players will be viewing from the pressbox. The idea is when you get your chance, make the most out of it. That is what Begin & D'Agostini are doing. D'Agostini seems very happy right now, and so was SK until he stopped performing. There is IMMENSE pressure on Carbo, this year more than ever. He needs to ice the best lineup every night. It's his ass on the line, not yours. To quote one of my favorite posters on the site, kostitsyns746, all you need to do is yell at the TV eating Cheetos and drinking warm Labatt's 50! Go Habs Go!! "I can't hear what Jeremy(Roenick) is saying because my Stanley Cup rings are in my ears" - Patrick Roy Habsrule

boris420's picture
As far as the whole Avery thing someone here had a great idea on a previous comment. "Sign him with our Habs and if ever he starts to step out of line have BGL regulate him" Pretty simple lol I posted some links to watch tonights game live online, more to come later: http://habsonlinetv.blogspot.com/ enjoy

Gr8stFranchizEvr's picture
That would be the first sign of Gainey's dementia...

24 Cups's picture
Sean Avery may be an idiot, and a vulgar one at that. However, he does have a signed contract for four years with $15 mil left to be paid out. There is no way that he isn't entitled to that money, even if he did say something that was totally ignorant. It will be very interesting to see what Bettman does today - he's a lawyer and knows full well this could go to court if he (and/or Hicks) try and end Avery's career. If Dallas doesn't want to have him around, then they should have to buy him out. It would be ultra expensive but look at what the Isles had to cough up to get rid of Yashin. Brett Hull might also have to walk the plank as he is the guy who signed Avery in the first place. Going For The Brass Ring - 25 Cups In 100 Years

Wamsley01's picture
Avery knows exactly what he is doing, I really don't think he cares if the plays hockey anymore. He has cashed out to the tune of 15M and knows that in a worst case scenarion he suffers a buyout and he can either A. sign with somebody else (because somebody WILL give him a chance) or B. go Hollywood with his big mouth. He didn't work at Vogue and hit every single party in the summer for no reason. I think he is up to something. http://fantasysensehockey.blogspot.com/2008/12/tonights-starting-goalies...

on "off the record" Rick Vaive had a good idea, send to the east coast league and let him take 15 hour bus rides, maybe he'd quit !!!!!...unless he has a oneway contract !!

24 Cups's picture
hg - it's all speculation at this point in time, but Avery certainly has a one way contract and Dallas would still have to pay it (and take the cap hit) if they send him to the minors. Going For The Brass Ring - 25 Cups In 100 Years

TommyB's picture
I don't think there is any way Bettman or anyone esle can "end Avery's career" over a bonehead, albeit vulgar, statement. Dallas is stuck with him unless there is some team who desparately needs some headlines to put fans in the seats (quite possible). Remember back awhile when fans here were suggesting Avery would be a good fit with the Habs? Just as the cream rises to the top, the silt settles to the bottom. Avery is, and always has been, a joke.

Habs_4_Me's picture
I believe there is some kind of a clause in the standard contracts about proper behaviour and representing the NHL. Don't know any of the details... ______________________________________________________________________ Have always been a Habs fan...will always be a Habs fan. I was born on the bandwagon and will die on the bandwagon...there is no on and off.

TommyB's picture
No doubt about that, but ending a player's career over a statement is extremely unlikely.

Pity. :-(

Chorske's picture
Carbo needs to build a bridge and get over it. I think he benefits from an unusual amount of largesse, actually. If he doesn't want a million assistant coaches questioning and discussing his every move, he should coach in Raleigh.

ebk's picture
nice post.

Chorske's picture
I think the Gillette thing is a non-issue. The business types here will correct me, but from talks with my dad, who is a retired corporate and gov't banker, this kind of thing happens all the time. A guy like Gillette picks up $75Mil at high interest because an opportunity has popped up, not because he needs to keep a ski resort afloat. If he was desperate for cash, he'd SELL his assets. But this is not the case: he's essentially renegociating terms for his various dealings, largely so he can continue the process of acquiring assets (something the article doesn't make clear) and again, it's my understanding that these monied types do this all the time. Tempest in a Toronto teapot. I wonder how the Ontario schoolteachers pensions are doing, and how that would affect MLSE, and the Maple Leafs. What? No report on THAT? What a surprise.

longtimehabsfan's picture
I hope you're right. I can't handle another Molson-like fire sale. Can't handle it.

Habsman1970's picture
Hey, not to change the subject Guys & Gals but it looking like Sid the Kid is going to overtake some of the All-Star fan balloting.... He's only about 4000 votes away from taking over Tanguay, 9000 to take over Koivu, and 11000 away from taking over Kovalev... So as they say here in the states... "GET OUT AND VOTE..!!!" I want to see an 'All Habs' starting lineup..!!!!! ONCE A HAB, FOREVER A HAB!!!

tony d's picture
I feel sorry for Latendresse and understand his frustration. I think he was mislead last year by Carbo and the Habs organization. He was being groomed as the next French superstar except they overlooked one small factor, he doesn't have the talent that goes with that expectation. Now he's bummed and confused and I think he sees the writing on the wall. He's at best a journeyman player and will continue to do the best he can on whatever team he plays with.

He also has to understand that the club gave him every opportunity and now with all the forwards healthy his two goals don't cut it. The vets sit and shut up, he needs to wait for his next opportunity which will be soon and make the most of it......just like every other player on the team.