Streit says he's no longer 'a joker'

posted by Dave Stubbs at 9h25 EST on Dec 11


Maybe a little something was lost in the phrasing, but New York Islanders' Mark Streit tells The Hockey News that he believed he was "the joker a little bit" in Montreal, shuttled from defence to forward.

Meanwhile, a similarly versatile player, Mathieu Dandenault, was the talk of the Canadiens yesterday for his having finished a shift Tuesday with a broken arm. Dandenault underwent surgery on his left arm yesterday.




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Don't have time to read this whole blog carefully , but has anyone else noticed that Streit has 2 more goals than Kovalev so far this year ....

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rumour is, habs are interested in Preissing. Does he have agood shot to help our PP? but the bigger question is, what's his +- rating? and maybe Lats is going the other way, but I doubt it, with no more value than a bag of pucks.

The Teacher's picture
Good skater with a good PP presence.

vaya_'s picture
hmmm, maybe just a draft pick, lombardi stockpiled a ton of em last year and seems to like having a big pool of prospects. sure he can help our pp, but i dunno if we really want his salary if he's not logging more minutes on d. maybe at the deadline as a last ditch effort, but there are other fish in the sea (ohlund, bouwmeester) that would potentially be more useful...

Ian G Cobb's picture
With the two top lines in tacked and chemistry starting to appear. They just might put in 60min of effort tonight. Two of the more interesting things to watch for tonight is one, the return of the two press box boys playing with Plekanic, and how they respond. And the second point of interest is how O'Byrne plays and with whome. This might be the last chance. Komiseric will be back in a few games and that will put the Kid in the press box again if he shows poorly over the next few games.

SmartDog's picture
Good post Ian - agreed. Poor Pleks is always the bridesmaid never the bride when it comes to playing partners. He gets whoever's left over. I feel for the guy, think he's a great player and as much as I like him think a trade would be a good idea if Carbo can't figure out how to use him or with whom... seems the skill guys that Pleks (I think) needs to play with are all taken. ~Listen to the smart dog!

Robert L's picture
Could The Habs Be Dangling Halak? http://www.habseyesontheprize.com/2008/12/11/689838/could-habs-be-dangin... Martin Leclerc, in Wednesday's Journal de Montreal, says that the press gallery was one crowded broom closet for the Flames game two nights ago. No less than 14 teams were represented by scouts for the game, which Leclerc notes, coincided with the return of Sergei Kostitsyn to the lineup.

The only thing dangling is in between Mats Sundin's legs. I doubt Gainey gets rid of Halak for nothing just to make room for the bald guy. Let's hope not anyway. Halak, Pleks,Higgins and a 2nd round pick for Kovalchuk? Was Waddel there? Now we can start talking

mrhabby's picture
very hard to read ur stuff Rob.

longbow's picture
Hmmm !

longbow's picture
Apparently Kolzig is playing tonight!Geez!Maybe they're trying to lull the Habs into not taking the opponent seriously.I hope we kill 'em.Really take out our frustration on them the way the Habs used to against Washington in the '70's,and never mind the "showing them up"crap.Pound them,beat on them,annihilate them.Make me happy.

mrhabby's picture
love to see a pounding on them 2.

gillis's picture
I don't get it. What jokerish thing did Streit do in Montreal? Lets just hope that Weber is Montreals future Swiss embassador on the PP.

Streit thinks it was jokerish for Carbo to play him as a forward. He sees himself as a defenseman only. haha No really I get the deck of cards thing, but what Mark doesn't get is......His shot on the powerplay is what he was used for. He had to be in the line-up in order for us to use him on the powerplay. So while we waited for a powerplay he was put on the fourth line where he had the least amount of minutes to screw up as a forward because there was no room on defense. Funny thing is NYI thought that was worth 4 million a year......Geez Loweez!!!!!

SmartDog's picture
He meant Joker as in 'Wild Card' in a deck of cards.... which is not a bad metaphor, no big deal about it. He's living near Altantic city now so I'd guess that's where that comes from. If he was still living in Montreal he'd say he was the pickle with the smoked meat... or something... :P ~Listen to the smart dog!

cunningdave's picture
Maybe this was obvious to everyone, but I think his phrasing was fine. He was talking about the Joker in a deck of cards, and I don't think he was really saying anything bad about how the team handled him. Hockey players and their cards...

Habsfan_jay's picture
Yeah totally, he meant he was a wild card, as in "joker's wild." The card be anything, and so can he; a forward or play D.

Habs-Fan-In-KY's picture
I get that too from the article, but his defensive play is no face card to be sure!!!

Habs-Fan-In-KY's picture
In many ways, I'm glad that Streit didn't get resigned this year. he obviously didn't like it here and could have been a cancer in the locker room. Why would he complain his role with the team last year? If anything, the Habs placing on the powerplay and offensive forward outside of PP situations helped establish his success. And he whines and complains about it? I would think the fact that he was versatile is a good quality...not something to be "ashamed of". It is obvious why we didn't play him as a full time defenceman. He's -6!!!

Exit716's picture
Or everyone saw how Boston and Philly shut it down last spring and our coaches haven't adapted.

tony d's picture
It could be Streit's accent. maybe he meant to say he couldn't stand 'Bettman' cause he thinks he controls the universe and it sounded like 'Batman'.... again that's just my twisted, slightly warped interpretation... ok...pace out...I meant peace

tamzarien's picture
Streit may not be a joker anymore, but people still laugh at how bad his team is.

Steve C.'s picture
I haven't commented here in a couple weeks, so i just want to say: 1. I'm really upset that Dandenault got hurt and he was one of the main cogs in Montreal's recent success on the defensive side of the puck. 2. I was a big fan of Streit, but did not, and i still do not, mind that he is with another team because last year in the playoffs, he sucked. He was asked to play defense and he couldn't do the job. Many guys faltered in the playoffs last year; we should have finished off Boston in 5 and would have had more life to beat Philly. But there was a guy named Martin Biron playing for the Flyers and we just couldn't pull it off...and against Boston we didn't do too well. I hope that O'Byrne has woken up and that he can be the tower of strength he has the potential to be.

RetroMikey's picture
Streit did not suck last year. You are listening to too many people on this site and the media. Believe what your heart says what the team needs and does not need. Streit would have been content if he signed for 2.5 million for us, he loved the city, the team where it is heading, the fans, and his family loved it in Montreal. Bobby made the mistake of letting him go and I, for one, was disappointed in seeing him go. "We will win the Cup only with Carey Price in the nets"

Steve C.'s picture
I said Streit sucked in the playoffs. in the regular season he was a horse. please re-read my comments. and trust me, i watched him suck in the playoffs. i liked Streit as well, i still do actually. but he did suck in the playoffs, and like i said, i saw him suck.

showey47's picture
There is no way anybody knows what streit would of accepted to stay here. He has been an underpaid player the last couple of years and this was his one and only chance to get the retirement contract.He also wanted to play defence on a regular basis instead of being a 4th line forward.Something that probably wasn't going to happen.

Da Hema's picture
I agree Streit did not suck last year. However, the question is whether he was worth what the Islanders offered. I do not believe so. Frankly, the Bruins and Flyers shut down our power play in the playoffs--when it mattered. I think the Habs last year became accustomed to winning games by the power play, which can work in the regular season. This year, especially over the past 15-20 games, the team now realizes it is their 5 on 5 play that will determine their success. Streit was too uni-dimensional. _________________________________________ "Respect your efforts, respect yourself. Self-respect leads to self-discipline. When you have both firmly under your belt, that's real power." --Clint Eastwood

The Cat's picture
I agree Streit wasn't worth that money but the habs couldve offered him something....But it never should have come to that, Souray should have never been let go IMO considering what was in the farm system. Now we have to trade for someone just like Souray.

I liked Streit, too. He never complained, only commented on how his preference was to play defense only. Hasn't anyone noticed how the PP has suffered?? Not that he was the only reason, but his shot and passing from the point made a difference. Look how he's doing in NY! He's the top PP scorer among D in the league. This year the Isles PP is 14th, Montreal 27th. Last year, Habs 1st, Isles 29th! If Kovalev had left the team people would say that was why the PP is suffering, but with Streit they say it couldn't be because of him! On a team that only has 2 plus players, he's not doing so bad, especially since he plays top minutes against the top lines. Anyway, I agree Mikey, he would have played for less here, but why wouldn't he take more in NY and play D only. I think he is a class act. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- If a man speaks in a forest where no woman can hear him, is he still wrong?

smiler2729's picture
Was Mark Streit really that important a cog in last season's power play just as Sheldon Souray was the season before? I don't think so. Are the Islanders sitting atop the NHL with the number 1 rated PP? Don't think so. I remember Mark Streit as so soft a defenceman, he regularly was assigned to the 4th line... oh yeah, and the joker disappeared in the playoffs (save for that goal vs. Boston).

RetroMikey's picture
Many jokers on our team disappeared in the playoffs last season and don't point the finger soley at Streit. "We will win the Cup only with Carey Price in the nets"

mrhabby's picture
stop joking around.

JasonM's picture
Why so serious?

mrhabby's picture
not serious..just trying to be a smart ***.

Sundin only looking to sign one year deal. http://www.hockeybuzz.com/ Did anyone else hear this the other day as the article states?

RetroMikey's picture
Oh no krob1000, you bringing up the Matzoball on this site again? :) "We will win the Cup only with Carey Price in the nets"

Now that a timeframe has been clearly defined I think it is safe again. I'm not so sure what Mats' gut is telling him and I have no clue what moves wwould make if he did want to come here but I too stopped talking about him out of frustration but I think this time it is for real...he's gonna make up his mind....finally and bring closure to this situation....until next summer lol. It's kind of bittersweet that he is only interested in a one year contract .....keeps us in the running.....but also sets the stage for another painful summer for anyone interested in him next year.

mrhabby's picture
yep , i heard that to. i guess we will hear in the next 10 days or so. iam hoping for a stud dman for what its worth.

the real vinnydj's picture
Can somebody copy and paste this article, I can't get in to it with this computer. Thanks

The Mats situation has become so surreal that even a rickety old source through out a zinger today.."The biggest Miracle on 34th Street this year could be how the Rangers get Mats in under the cap." Yes, Mats agent informed the world on radio the other day that Sundin was looking to sign just a one-year deal and then assess his situation at the end of the season. BOY oh BOY! That can only mean one thing! Sundin's signing will be but a reprise of 6 months before another up to 6 months of Mats Talk! ......................................kill me. (trying to move on.... look at the kids, smile, take a deep breath..) Also happy news is that the 15th deadline is just a deadline for Mats to do something involving narrowing the field of teams...Christmas is the new deadline...I think from this point forth Sundin should become part of all of our Christmas traditions.... UGH! good feelings leaving, good feelings leaving ....(name the movie) Anyway, here we sit. Mats we know will be in NY City this weekend as a part of a Poker Tournament dinner and is rumoured to be taking in the Canes/ Rangers game...The plot thickens Calls for a second "Burt picks where Sundin will Sign" video are out there. A video that would include the other longshots, Philly and Chicago. The first video is below and was viewed over a million times this summer... Burt Picks The Sundin Team...CLICK HERE TO SEE WHO BURT PICKS more to come in the three o'clock hour, and then tonight I will be holding a special chat from the press box at the Flyers/Canes game. chasing: An update on the tenuous Hawks upper management stuff... The Leafs talking to the Preds? Stay tuned...

the real vinnydj's picture
Thanks for posting that Krob

mrhabby's picture
this crap is like a very bad cold, it just will not go away.

smiler2729's picture
Matszzzzz... Sundin.... zzzzzzzz. Here's hoping he signs anywhere but Montreal.

Garbo's picture
Why don't you want him to sign with Montreal?

badbalance's picture
Relax, if he signs with us, were winning the Cup.

Whatever he meant by it, He's still talks as though he is on to bigger and better things. Last I checked, the Islanders were in 2nd last and tied for most goals against in the league. Numbers any defenseman should not be proud of. I guess he's only counting his own goals and assists along with the 4 mil he makes. At least he doesn't have to worry about disappearing in the play-offs since he won't be playing forward or defense in them this year.

coutNY's picture
Dandenault... who would have thought that he would have the best win % on the Habs, aong players who have played 20 games or more posting a 14W-3L-3OTL, or another way of looking at it; gathering 31 out of 40 possible pts. Which puts him a pure win / loss of 70% or a tie adj percentage of 78% !?!

Latendresse and O'Byrne will play tonight, Laraque will be a healthy scratch -> for more info: www.nhl-northeast.com It's time for Gui to show what he can do!! www.nhl-northeast.com for news on the Northeast division teams.

24 Cups's picture
Makes perfect sense to me - outside of Downie there is really no reason for Laraque to dress for tonight's game. Hopefully, Carbo can keep O'Byrne away from Vinny's line. It would be great if he could have a gaff free outing for his first game back. Glad to see Lats getting his chance - Sergei got his and he certainly hasn't played any better than Lats this year. We need all three of these kids to steadily improve. Like it or not, they will all be part of our Cup run in the spring. Going For The Brass Ring - 25 Cups In 100 Years

I'd argue that Sergei has played better than lats this year; Sergei just hasn't played as well as we want our skill players to.

RetroMikey's picture
In my opinion, Sergei is overrated on our team and his ego is so big for a kid who's only in his sophomre jinx...oops sophmore season in Montreal. He has been one of the major disappointments in my opinion. This guy needs more development on the farm. 22 games only in Hamilton! Trevor Timmins quoting to the media he is a better skillful player than his brother Andre, NOT! Sorry Trevor, you made a boo boo. If his brother Andre, and other players like Maxime Lapierre or Mats D'Agostini have bided their time in Hamilton and developed to present NHLers, why can't Bob and Guy send him down to Hamilton to ride the buses and learn the ABC's of hockey under Don Lever? Sergei, the time is now to perform or else you'll be labelled as another Patrick Lebeau. Step it up kid, let's see the skill and finesse you have when we drafted you. "We will win the Cup only with Carey Price in the nets"

Thanks for the update. Its time for Gui to stand in front of the net like Holmstrom does for Detroit and let Pleks and AK74 shoot the puck while the goalie is screened. Maybe, Gui could pick up a rebound or two and pop a goal or two as well. C'mon Gui show us Habs fans you belong on this team.

SmartDog's picture
Please god. ~Listen to the smart dog!

Vid's picture
Mark Streit definitely deserves whatever good fortune he's gotten. Although I personally don't think he'll ever be able to duplicate the numbers he got in Montreal. edit: however just checking his stats to date, he may just do that albeit with a worse plus/minus I think our PP would still be struggling with him. Our pp went to crap in last season's playoffs with Streit. How much of that had to do with Streit playing slightly injured, I guess we'll never know. Perhaps our PP is missing his ability to keep the puck in the zone but if that were the case then why was Souray so great for our pp (besides the big slapper)? Was he also good at keeping the puck in the zone? I don't really remember anybody thinking of him as such. Despite not having shown much offensive capability. I've seen O'Byrne unleash a pretty hard slap shot a few times. Wouldn't mind seeing him given a shot on the PP. Although whether he can make a hard slap shot on a one timer is another issue entirely.

HABZ24's picture
any update on higgy

SmartDog's picture
Good discussion on this - one of the most MEATY discussions ever on HIO. Most of these points are good points I think... and I agree BOTH that Streit's strength was not just his shot but that he held his zone well AND that Marky and Kovy were 2/3 of why our PP was so hot... It seems strange we can't find someone to come close to filling his shoes, after watching so many guys let pucks slip past them on the point, I see how key it was to keeping the flow. Is there NO other Hab who can handle those hot passes and fire a rocket now and then??? C'mon, there MUST be! ~Listen to the smart dog!

mrhabby's picture
maybe i was looking at another mark striet. he had a great shot but was weak defensively.like i said , isles are in no mands land for the next 100 years. playoffs are a distant thought for them.

Exit716's picture
Streit was very adept at finding the seams too on the PP. How our brain trust missed that I don't know.

mrhabby's picture
streit was creamed night in and night out during the playoffs.he gave up the puck up many times.we don't need soft, smurf like players. he does not have to worry about the playoffs anymore cause the isles are in no mans land for the 100 years.

coutNY's picture
Not for under $5 million... or as LongIslandHabsFan points out a discounted one for $4 million, but isn't that great 5 on 5.

this is Lats last chance. he talks it up, but can't do it on the ice. So Lats:"shut up, and produce, or you're gone for good"!

likehoy's picture
anyone else thinking you were going to read an article about streit being a prankster??

Robert L's picture
Canadiens "Our History" Site Makes It's Debut Online http://www.habseyesontheprize.com/2008/12/11/689430/canadiens-our-histor... I've just stumbled upon this....and you can gather my anxious excitement to pass it along to all Habs fans! The Canadiens "Our History" site, an extension of montrealcanadiens.com has made it's debut online and it is simply freakin' awesome! It has absolutely everything, all you could ever possible want to see and read on the Habs. Also... Can The Habs Be Serious In A Meeting With A Laughingstock Lightning? http://www.habseyesontheprize.com/2008/12/11/689460/can-the-habs-be-seri...

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notbigbird's picture
Robert, are you aware that the text of your RSS feeds is quite tiny, certainly smaller than average? Just letting you know.

Andrew Sharpe's picture
"Since their Cup win in 2004, Tampa have gone downhill faster than Rita McNeil on a skateboard. " I laughed out loud at that.

Im happy that he is happy in NY, but Im so tired to hear that we have a poor powerplay because hes not here anymore. What was our strenght on last years PP? Kovalev with Markov. Kovy was first in the league with 17 Goals, 30 Assists for 47 pts. Streit only got 7 goals on the PP. Do we really need and miss a shooter? If you can recall or last years PP goals, most of them were passes coming from the point to Kovy....Or from corner of the net to the slot. Carbo should have keep Markov on the left and put Kovy on the first wave. Thats his biggest mistake of the year. _________________________________________________________________________ "No way! Thats unbelievable! Thats the save of the year and its not even the year yet!" (on Carey Price stick save against Detroit)

piche's picture
I still think that our problem is that our powerplay changed from using the point to more passing - and not so much Streit in particular. Tanguay and Markov should not play together on the point... they are both setup guys. Pair them with each with the best shots on the team. That said I think that Streit is an excellent passer as well.

coutNY's picture
27 PP assists was second on the team only to Kovalev. Its just a shot that Streit brought to the PP game. He held the zone very well, or rarely gave up many turn-overs to give the opposition short-handed scoring opportunities. Having someone capable of being an offensive threat, whose solid play at the blue-line doesn't allow for the defenders to cheat because when they did he would find a Kovalev or Markov who would make them pay for that mistake. It like in football having a good running back opens up opportunites for the receivers because if they don't respect the running game they get burned. Once they focus ono the running game it opens up opportunities for the receivers. In this, Streit was good at opening ice or lanes for others to create scoring chances. You will see that teams this year are not repsecting the PP. Aggresively over playing them or double teaming them at times with success,all because they are having trouble with holding the blue line.

LongIslandHabsFan's picture
Absolutely. Streit's strength wasn't just his shot, it was his ability to keep the puck in the zone. Think how many times this year the Habs PP is looking good passing the puck around the perimeter only to have it jump over the point man's stick and hop across the blue line. It seems to happen on almost every PP this year - it seldom happened when Streit was there - that's the biggest difference. That and the fact every team has figured out Kovalev's moves from the half boards.

coutNY's picture
Couple that with taking some of our most talented scoring forwards away from the Net. Tanguay or Lang [leading PP scorers], putting them in the unfamilar unforgiving point position, whom are really not known for their hard shots for the point to begin with, gives the PP one less asset. Not that they're under performing... They are reliable option, responsible with the puck and are good play-makers, but it isn't the position where they do their best work. I don't think either of them have scored a goal while at the the point position.

Ian Cobb's picture
Team play creates goals and chances, not only the guy's who finish. With out Mark Streit the PP is not there. Just like a quarter back, without linemen he goes nowhere. Team sport is chemistry, not individual.

Robert L's picture
George Hainsworth 1927 - 1933 http://www.habseyesontheprize.com/2008/12/11/689426/george-hainsworth-19... George Hainsworth signed with the Montreal Canadiens on August 23, 1926, after Newsy Lalonde recommended him to owner Leo Dandurand. This proved to be an accurate appraisal and the newcomer became an instant hit.

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Simple break, a little rest, back in action before we know it! Middle Jan.

Kristopher7's picture
Streit's not a 'Joker' anymore but I hope he enojys being 10-16-2.

SmartDog's picture
The wild card is the most powerful card in the deck. What's his problem? ;) But seriously, it's a good metaphor... and shows how much he didn't like moving around. When I think Swiss I think precision, dependability, consistency.... versatility, not so much. Everyone's different but he seems like he's not the free-wheeling type. Dandy takes it in stride. ~Listen to the smart dog!

LongIslandHabsFan's picture
Problem is he wasn't a great 5 on 5 defenseman. But he sure was a great PP specialist.

Hmmmmmm.....maybe Streit will be the one that got away when all is said and done. Good for him. He beat the odds. And, maybe it's a coincidence but the Montreal powerplay languishes. GO HABS.

Streit is a solid citizen, all he wanted to do was play D, he earned that right as a UFA and exercised it. I only wish him well as one of the highest paid athletes in Switzerland, okay, behind Roger Federer!

Maybe Tampa could use Manon Rhéaume - she is hot!

Habsrule1's picture
I bet something was lost in translation. The man seemed like the definition of class, didn't he? Go Habs Go!! "I can't hear what Jeremy(Roenick) is saying because my Stanley Cup rings are in my ears" - Patrick Roy Habsrule

100HABS's picture
Read the article - in some card games, you can play the joker at any time. He was used wherever they needed him to fill a hole, like a joker or a wild card. ___________________________ 'tis the season to be jolly

Exit716's picture
Bingo. As someone that writes for a living, thank you for correctly interpreting Streit's words. It doesn't happen a lot of the time.

Habsrule1's picture
Exactly. I was just referring to the context of the headline, but I was quite sure Streit didn't mean it in a negative way...as proven in the story itself. He seemed very happy here, and never complained. Go Habs Go!! "I can't hear what Jeremy(Roenick) is saying because my Stanley Cup rings are in my ears" - Patrick Roy Habsrule

Hey Mark, who cares? It's time to move on. I'd rather be the "joker" in Montreal, than languish in obscurity on the Island.

100HABS's picture
Be nice, I'm happy for him. He was a good guy. The Habs gave him a chance to reach his potential. After the season he had, he was worth more money than Bob was willing to give him, so he got it elsewhere. He may regret being on a losing team, but at least he's got the cash, he's playing the position he wants, and contrary to your comment, he's a top player on the island and is nowhere near "Obscure"... ___________________________ 'tis the season to be jolly

shadi's picture
Well, he was indeed the wildcard last year.. Carbo put him in the lineup whenever and wherever he thought Streit could help the team. Having said that I think Streit will never understand that versatility was his most important asset while he played in Montreal. He seemed annoyed that he wasn't playing as a defenseman for the entire season. We miss him dearly on the PP, but I think overall this team is just as good defensively as they were last year.