Price also a Young Star
posted by Pat Hickey at 9h01 EST on Jan 21
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Submitted by B on Wed, 01/21/2009 - 12:54.
I am glad Price is not in the skills competition as it is easier to get injured in the skills competition than in a scrimmage. I remember DiPietro hurting his hip in last year's skills competition trying to stop Gaborik. DiPietro has not been the same since. As Price is coming off of an injury, I don't think it prudent to over do it outside of game action for the Canadiens.

Submitted by Number31 on Thu, 01/22/2009 - 09:04.
They should put in Jacques "Le Coq" Grande for the skills comp ;D Hey why not have some celebrity fun. I'm sure lots of people would love to bounce pucks off Timberlake's head.

Submitted by Habsrule1 on Wed, 01/21/2009 - 12:55.
May as well just not have the skills if goalies are going to be afraid to participate.
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Submitted by HabsDawg (not verified) on Wed, 01/21/2009 - 14:09.
H1, You are a stubborn one arn't you...........LOL............

Submitted by Habsrule1 on Wed, 01/21/2009 - 14:13.
It's probably the right thing to do if there's any doubt about his health. I just don't think he should be there at all then...taking the spot from a goalie who could do both.
That being said, I'm looking forward to seeing him play anyway LOL
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Submitted by B on Wed, 01/21/2009 - 13:05.
I don't think Price is afraid to participate. NHL teams however are more interested in winning actual games rather than risking a top asset aggravating an injury. Mason is healthy enough to start NHL games but not enough to risk on meaningless activities. There has been a lot of discussion about not using NHL goalies in the skills competitions, especially for things like the shoot out where the showcase is on the shooter, not the goalie.

Submitted by Habsrule1 on Wed, 01/21/2009 - 13:10.
Exactly. Comes to the same thing. Either don't have them, or don't have NHL goalies in them.
I guess goalies not getting injured 99.9% of the time in the past 30 years has just been luck.
They play 50-70 games a year, and they're worried about getting injured playing in a skills competition.
Go Habs Go!!
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Submitted by B on Wed, 01/21/2009 - 13:39.
My main concern over Price is that it is riskier for him as he is coming off of an injury and it is not likely his ankle is back to 100% yet. I do not believe playing a bit of scrimmage hockey is as hard on him as a shoot out competition. If he was 100% and not coming off an injury, then I would not be very concerned. I agree with Mason doing what is best for his team and resting his back problem.

Submitted by RudeMood19 on Wed, 01/21/2009 - 12:44.
Is this the first time a goalie started both the all-star game and the young-stars game?
Submitted by obrien on Wed, 01/21/2009 - 11:32.
How come SK is not part of that game???

Submitted by likehoy on Wed, 01/21/2009 - 12:36.
not enough publicity i guess...it's like when gui latendresse was snubbed for when he was eligible and he had more goals and points than phil kessel who made it at the time (06-07)
"ONE CUP, ONE PRICE."

Submitted by Fant-HAB-ulous on Wed, 01/21/2009 - 11:22.
To reply to all the comments below about Price not being in the skills competition....
It's not like any of the activities are geared towards goalie's. In fact, except for the shootout, goalie's don't usually participate in the skills competition.
Though..wouldn't it be something if Price tried his hand at the accuracy competition! He had a pretty good shot, he could probably hold his own.

Submitted by Vid on Wed, 01/21/2009 - 11:51.
well there was that one year maybe more where they had goalies try to score on the empty net with a small barrier in front of them. I think Brodeur was the only one who scored naturally.
I also remember the rapid fire one where the goalie gets peppered by shots from two players on each side and the 3 on 0 rushes.
Maybe they could add a fastest skating goalie competition...who can get to the bench first.

Submitted by Fant-HAB-ulous on Wed, 01/21/2009 - 12:17.
I remember when they had that goalie-shooting contest! It was SOOOO lame.
Sometimes I feel like the organizer so of the skills competition also run Elementary School Field Days...where activities like throwing a baseball into a tire rule the day.

Submitted by mrhabby on Wed, 01/21/2009 - 11:31.
that skills comp is getting a little tired..have no idea how to improve it or change it..it just seems blah to me something missing.
db

Submitted by habsguy on Wed, 01/21/2009 - 10:51.
well damn !!!!!! there goes another reason for me to not watch the skills comp....I hope the other Habs do well !!!

Submitted by Habsman1970 on Wed, 01/21/2009 - 09:50.
I personally thought Price should have started in the Atlanta game.. Not because Halak couldn't do it (which he didn't have the best game anyway), but because I think it would be a good 'break-in' game for Price rather then facing NJ as the break-in.
ONCE A HAB, FOREVER A HAB!!!

Submitted by cautiousoptimist on Wed, 01/21/2009 - 10:12.
Like habsrule says below, they wanted to play their better goalie against the better team -- ie. Price against NJ. Coming off an injury, Price isn't going to start back-to-back nights, so it makes sense to split the two games this way.
1. www.flickeringpictures.com - not a hockey site, but still kinda neat
2. Josh Gorges on Montreal's attack: "They're comin', they're comin' and they keep comin'. Just line after line, wave after wave..."
Submitted by HabsDawg (not verified) on Wed, 01/21/2009 - 09:53.
It's Carbo's BBQ.......
He has been known to make some Bone Head Decisions.........LOL.......

Submitted by Habsrule1 on Wed, 01/21/2009 - 09:55.
They wanted their better goalie for the tougher game. It's a no-brainer, really...not a "Bone Head Decision".
Go Habs Go!!
"I can't hear what Jeremy(Roenick) is saying because my Stanley Cup rings are in my ears" - Patrick Roy
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Submitted by HabsDawg (not verified) on Wed, 01/21/2009 - 10:03.
H1:
Why would you Ease in your Goalie who just came off any injury to a very good team?

Submitted by Habsman1970 on Wed, 01/21/2009 - 10:05.
Yeah, that's my point exactly. Ol'e Carb thinking "Hey, I know what will be good for our injured goalie to do, he should face a surging team after being out for weeks on end.. That will help him recover..."
ONCE A HAB, FOREVER A HAB!!!

Submitted by Habsrule1 on Wed, 01/21/2009 - 10:08.
The point is....he's not injured! He's 100%!
Whatever...we disagree.
Go Habs Go!!
"I can't hear what Jeremy(Roenick) is saying because my Stanley Cup rings are in my ears" - Patrick Roy
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Submitted by Habsman1970 on Wed, 01/21/2009 - 10:16.
What you are saying doesn't make sense.. If he's 100% then why wasn't our #1 goalie in against one of the lowest teams in the league?
ONCE A HAB, FOREVER A HAB!!!

Submitted by Habsrule1 on Wed, 01/21/2009 - 10:27.
It doesn't make sense? Now, that's a stretch. They wanted him to play 1 out of 2 games, so they picked the one that would be tougher to win. How does that not make sense?
In any event, I agree with the runner-up for the Jack Adams trophy, and you agree with HabsDawg.
Go Habs Go!!
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Submitted by ghg31price on Wed, 01/21/2009 - 11:03.
Wow habsrule1... I've been reading your comments for months now and have for the most part totally agreed with you... Up till now... We're all allowed to have a difference in opinion that's one of the things that makes this site so much fun.
But I highly disagree with your thoughts on Carbo and Big Red (Price's New nickname!!) playing in last night's game and in the all star game.
Carbo should have definitely started Big Red and slowly ease him in... Given the fact that he is 100% is not just the only reason for putting him in against an up and coming team like NJ or allowing him to play in the ASG Skills.
Some injuries, like most NHL'ers have admitted become for the most part Psychological.
And psychologically, starting him against a less *stressful* team should have been the way to go.
In regards to the Skills, again, even though the guy is 100%, he is coming off a 6 week injury and putting his body through the vigorous trials of the skills would simply be unnecessary (Look what DiPietro has been going through). So many goalies have gotten injured over the years cause of the skills comp, it's not to say that they shouldn't attend, it's simply a timing issue and the timing isn't right for Big Red.
I'm sure some of you will disagree with what I have to say, but hell, that's what HIO was invented for.
Love my HIO'ers and Love my Habs!!
Big Red for Prime Minister!!

Submitted by cautiousoptimist on Wed, 01/21/2009 - 11:16.
Are we still arguing about this? :)
They wanted to play their better goalie against the better team -- ie. Price against NJ. Coming off an injury, Price isn't going to start back-to-back nights, just in case, so it makes sense to split the two games this way. It's not a psychological thing -- Price is solid as a rock in that dept. -- it's physical. And it's not because he's less than 100% either, but rather because the human body needs time to re-adapt to the rigors of professional sport after a period of rest. It's like a car that's been sitting in your garage for a year -- you don't just floor it the first time you take it out, because there's a fair chance you'll burn the engine if you do.
Likewise for the skills competition, Carbo's thinking is likely: what's the point in having him play a ton of hockey over the next few days if the all-star break affords us a rare and golden opportunity to ease our #1 goalie back into it?
If Price hadn't been injured -- or if Halak had played as well as he did in most of his 8 previous starts -- everyone would agree that when we have back to back games, starting our weaker goalie against the weaker team is the way to go. Halak's off-night was unforeseeable, but this was still the right call.
Long live respectful disagreement, and long live HIO!
1. www.flickeringpictures.com - not a hockey site, but still kinda neat
2. Josh Gorges on Montreal's attack: "They're comin', they're comin' and they keep comin'. Just line after line, wave after wave..."

Submitted by Habsrule1 on Wed, 01/21/2009 - 11:19.
You're right on every point, co...in my opinion.
Go Habs Go!!
"I can't hear what Jeremy(Roenick) is saying because my Stanley Cup rings are in my ears" - Patrick Roy
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Submitted by Habsrule1 on Wed, 01/21/2009 - 11:14.
Hey, that's well stated. I'm not really convinced if he should play the ASG at all, but if he's well enough to play the game, I think he should play the skills too. Is he going to try that much more in the skills than the game? Maybe, but I doubt it.
As for the games last night and tonight....it's debateable (and that's what we're doing), but I think everyone involved is convinced that Price is 100% and if that's the case, perhaps, after much discussion, they decided that, although Halak may be a little tired (9 games in a row), it would be safer to put him in against a weaker opponent, and Price against a strong Devils team to go into the break on a high (maybe 2 wins).
As I said, it's debateable, but Carbo and his staff made a decision...perhaps it was not the right one, but it wasn't "a bonhead decision".
Another point of view: Halak could have played both games, and Price could have skipped the ASG, and be 150% next Tuesday.
Go Habs Go!!
"I can't hear what Jeremy(Roenick) is saying because my Stanley Cup rings are in my ears" - Patrick Roy
Habsrule

Submitted by ghg31price on Wed, 01/21/2009 - 11:37.
Well... Agree to disagree... you guys all rock!!!
Big Red for PM!

Submitted by Habsman1970 on Wed, 01/21/2009 - 10:42.
I can see both points.. I am just chalking it up to different coaching styles. I think we are ALL in agreement that we want Price back as soon as possible, and in the shape he was in before he was injured. I won't take anything away from Halak because he did a great job for us, and our points reflect that..
All in all, PRICE IS BACK..!!!!!!!! Onward and Upward...!!!
ONCE A HAB, FOREVER A HAB!!!

Submitted by cautiousoptimist on Wed, 01/21/2009 - 10:30.
hee hee
1. www.flickeringpictures.com - not a hockey site, but still kinda neat
2. Josh Gorges on Montreal's attack: "They're comin', they're comin' and they keep comin'. Just line after line, wave after wave..."

Submitted by Habsrule1 on Wed, 01/21/2009 - 10:32.
No offense, HabsDawg :-P
Go Habs Go!!
"I can't hear what Jeremy(Roenick) is saying because my Stanley Cup rings are in my ears" - Patrick Roy
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Submitted by HabsDawg (not verified) on Wed, 01/21/2009 - 12:11.
None Taken Dude....

Submitted by Habsrule1 on Wed, 01/21/2009 - 10:04.
If he's 100%, he's 100%. What difference does it make? The only reason not too is that he might be rusty, and that's for the coach to decide.
Do we want to win or not? If he's ready, he should be used to help the team win. I think he should have played both games, but Carbo wanted to save him for the better team cause he's our #1.
Go Habs Go!!
"I can't hear what Jeremy(Roenick) is saying because my Stanley Cup rings are in my ears" - Patrick Roy
Habsrule

Submitted by Habsman1970 on Wed, 01/21/2009 - 10:15.
I (as well as every other Habs fan) wants Price back as soon as possible, but truth be known, I don't think he's 100%... I think he is saying he's a 100% because the all-star game is coming up and he wants to be part of it.. Hell, he couldn't be on the ice 20 mins last week during practice, so what miracle treatment did the trainers use to get him back to 100% 7 days later and ready to play 3 hours a night...
Agreed.. Agree to disagree…
ONCE A HAB, FOREVER A HAB!!!
Submitted by HabsDawg (not verified) on Wed, 01/21/2009 - 10:34.
The last practice, Price was on for 45 minutes and was great acording to Carbo...........

Submitted by smiler2729 on Wed, 01/21/2009 - 10:33.
In case you have forgotten, last time I checked the Atlanta Thrashers are in the NHL and are hot right now so that makes them just as 'worthy' a foe as the New Jersey Devils (who also, by the way, don't have anyone skating for them nearly as talented a sniper/playmaker as Ilya Kovalchuk is).
P.S. Leafs suck!

Submitted by Habsrule1 on Wed, 01/21/2009 - 10:42.
That's a point to consider, but last time I checked the standings, it showed that the devils were 20 points better than the thrashers. Let's get serious. Are you posting just for arguement's sake?
Go Habs Go!!
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Submitted by RGM on Wed, 01/21/2009 - 09:44.
He's a sophomore filling in for Ersberg taking on Pekka Rinne (who is filling in for Mason), it's only a 20 minute game of shinny, might as well right? I was going to ask how they couldn't put Sergei Kostitsyn in there, but that would arouse the anger of everybody who thinks there's already too many Habs at this weekend's events.
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Submitted by MikeL on Wed, 01/21/2009 - 09:55.
I wanted Sergei on the Sophomores and Grabovski on the Rookies.

Submitted by xaverian001 on Wed, 01/21/2009 - 10:00.
Oh that would have been interesting!!!

Submitted by MikeL on Wed, 01/21/2009 - 10:03.
God forbid the NHL actually making the game interesting. With the game in Montreal, I think it would hype the game huge.

Submitted by Habsrule1 on Wed, 01/21/2009 - 09:37.
If he's actually 100% like he says, and has no problem tonight, I don't see why he wouldn't play this game and the skills.
Either you're 100% or you're not.
Go Habs Go!!
"I can't hear what Jeremy(Roenick) is saying because my Stanley Cup rings are in my ears" - Patrick Roy
Habsrule
Submitted by HabsDawg (not verified) on Wed, 01/21/2009 - 09:59.
It could be said for any Goalie in the ASG.
Montreal's luck is with injuries it is a good move for Price not to take part in the Skills Comp.
I don't doubt for a min. that Price is not 100%. But it too soon a return from an injury to be moving like Goalies do in a Skills Comp..

Submitted by Habsrule1 on Wed, 01/21/2009 - 10:02.
I disagree. It sets a bad precedent. The other goalies will have to be in there longer. How do their coaches feel. Either participate in everything, or give your spot to someone who can.
Go Habs Go!!
"I can't hear what Jeremy(Roenick) is saying because my Stanley Cup rings are in my ears" - Patrick Roy
Habsrule
Submitted by HabsDawg (not verified) on Wed, 01/21/2009 - 10:05.
Well, that is something for the league to inforce right???
Why H1. Do you want to see Price in the Skills Comp?

Submitted by Habsrule1 on Wed, 01/21/2009 - 10:09.
I really don't care, but they say he's 100% and he's playing tonight and he's playing the ASG. I just don't understand why he's not playing the skills. Any goalie could get hurt. should they all refuse to play "just in case"?
Go Habs Go!!
"I can't hear what Jeremy(Roenick) is saying because my Stanley Cup rings are in my ears" - Patrick Roy
Habsrule
Submitted by HabsDawg (not verified) on Wed, 01/21/2009 - 10:18.
Maybe Price WILL play in the Skills Comp.

Submitted by banjopickinghil... on Wed, 01/21/2009 - 09:31.
ya I dont know why he`d even bother with this game

Submitted by MikeL on Wed, 01/21/2009 - 09:17.
Is he playing for the rookies in place of Steve Mason? If so, Carey Price vs Erik Ersberg - that's not even fair.








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