Game 50: Lang, Latendresse hurt in loss

posted by Dave Stubbs at 18h26 EST on Feb 1


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Robert Lang, the Canadiens' sole goal-scorer, celebrates with Alex Kovalev. Lang's day ended less happily.
Christinne Muschi, Reuters

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The Canadiens lost more than a 3-1 hockey game to the Boston Bruins this afternoon – they might have lost their leading goal-scorer, Robert Lang, with a suspected severed Achilles tendon. If that's the case, colour Lang – who scored Montreal's lone goal today – gone for the season, if not longer. See Pat Hickey's game story here.

Also injured in the game: Guillaume Latendresse, with an apparent shoulder injury after crashing into the boards late in the game. And defenceman Josh Gorges didn't play after having his bell badly rung by the elbow of Los Angeles' Denis Gauthier on Saturday.

It was the Canadiens' fourth straight loss to Boston.




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Everybody is making excuses for kovy(bad coaching,lousy line mates,not enough time)Maybe it,s time to lay some of the responsibilty on him.

Dintrox's picture
BTW many other coaches have been frustrated with Kovalev in the past. Carbo is not the only coach that has problems motivating the 'enigma'. Ask Campbell or Keenan about it...

TripleX's picture
So what are you saying? That BG signed a player that was known around the league for his enigmatic personality? Now everyone wants to blame Kovy for being what he has always being. When you buy a Ferrari don't expect it to haul firewood like a Ford F150. Kovy is Kovy, it is up to the coaching staff to create an environment in which he can succeed. If BG has a problem with Kovy he should not have signed him, his history was well documented. This teams troubles go far beyond one 36 year old player.

Tom S.'s picture
You've crystalized my thoughts, exactly. Thank you.

RetroMikey's picture
Well said. Kovalev ain't the problem but the problem lies deeper in the dressing room with some young guys such as Sergei Kostitsyn, who I truly belive is giving Carbonneau major headaches with his play on the ice. This guy should be sent to the dog pound in Hamilton now that Lang is gone for the season to really brush up on his skills. To me, an overrated and overconfident kid who has not accomplished anything in his tenure in Montreal. "We will win the Cup only with Carey Price in the nets"

HAB-PROFESSOR's picture
Agree Retro....Sergie down and Stewart up. ----- 1. Kovalev is now in his prime, he just needs linemates at his level.. 2. Our VETERAN YOUTH: PAX, D'AGS, OBRYNE, HENRY & STEW must stay on the team if we hope to contend for the cup.

Fire_Laraque's picture
Yesterday, I was speaking with my uncle (Was the goaltending coach for the Wild on their first year) why Carbonneau was always shuffling his lines all the time and coming out in the papers with his comments on his players. His explanation was interesting. Carbonneau used to play under Scotty Bowman. Back then, Bowman was a tough and hard coach because the times permitted it. But today, the hard line doesn't work any more. Scotty was able to adjust his coaching style as time passed, but he thinks Carbonneau is unable to ... right now. He just doesn't know how to do it. "Why didn't Laraque score 50 goals this year?"

RetroMikey's picture
Carbonneau never played under Scotty Bowman, he played under Bob Berry when he stepped in as a rookie during the 1982-83 season. Get your facts straight. "We will win the Cup only with Carey Price in the nets"

Fire_Laraque's picture
WOW, I don'T know why my uncle would say that then. That's probably the reason why he's not goaltending coach in the NHL anymore. hehehe "Why didn't Laraque score 50 goals this year?"

ghg31price's picture
Just posted on the habs website... http://canadiens.nhl.com/team/app/?service=page&page=NewsPage&articleid=... Lang underwent successful surgery... Hope you get better Langs!!!

Tom S.'s picture
Today's NHL coach has to be more than just a guy in a suit behind the bench screaming "change 'em up" every now and then. He needs to be a teacher, a psychologist, a motivator, a babysitter, a tactician, a problem solver, but most of all, he needs to put the team ahead of everything else, and right now, his ego is getting in the way by alienating Kovy. I believe that Carbo has not made use of any and all means at his disposal to get the most out of this team this season. Granted, this is not the same squad he guided atop the regular season last year - thanks for letting Streit walk, Bob - but too many players have taken too many steps back. The only bright lights, until his injury yesterday, was Lang. It took a while for him to get going but once he got in a groove he was our most consistent player. If Carbo cannot, at least, find the right buttons to push to squeeze everything out of what assets he has, he needs to go. So far, he has shown that he's unable to find a balance in the carrot-and-the-stick approach.

RetroMikey's picture
Sorry to say but I totally back up Carbonneau's actions as a coach. As much as I love Kovalev, he has to pay the price and I assure you others will be sitting on their arse on the bench or press box in the coming games. If you want a teacher, a psychologist, motivator, then talk to your parents who brought you on this planet and raised you, not your hockey coach. In Carbo I trust! will win the Cup only with Carey Price in the nets"

Tom S.'s picture
No need to be sorry. We agree to disagree.

The Cat's picture
The thing that puzzles me to no end is this. Carbos system is good. The coaching staff are all defense experts, but then I look at that lineup and wonder is this the best style for this club? Carbos system is tailor made for the brian Skrudlands and shayne corsons of the world if the system is to succeed at its maximum.

Habsrule1's picture
The team is inconsistent. They play great under Carbo's system one game, then not the next. I know I defend Carbo too much, but he didn't suddenly forget how to coach. My point is, I know we all have opinions, but unless you also think BG needs to be fired, why can't we write about something else? Gainey took over a team that had missed the playoffs 4 out of 5 seasons and had 77 points that year. The lowest we have had since is 90. He's doing a great job, and is 100% behind Carbo. Neither of them will be moved unless we miss the playoffs....so we should wait until then to continually call for his head. IMHO Go Habs Go!! "I can't hear what Jeremy(Roenick) is saying because my Stanley Cup rings are in my ears" - Patrick Roy

RetroMikey's picture
It'sthe newer generation of Habs fans who have never witnessed a Stanley Cup in Montreal that want Carbo and Gainey to be fired. "We will win the Cup only with Carey Price in the nets"

mrhabby's picture
and who in the right mind do they have to replace carbo and BG.

no articles on lang yet? hes a huge loss, and the fact he was such a huge mentor to the team this year makes it even worse. i feel bad for him, his career might be over.

Habsrule1's picture
If he's not part of the "veteran youth" it doesn't matter. I wish him all the best and wouldn't mind seeing him back next year. Go Habs Go!! "I can't hear what Jeremy(Roenick) is saying because my Stanley Cup rings are in my ears" - Patrick Roy

AlexKovalevAK27's picture
If CardEgo was a better coach he'd know how to get Kovalev going again... but since he's all worried about losing his job he can do whatever he wants... Wake up and smell the coffie Carbo you need Kovalev on this team to win. Benching Kovy is not the best way to get him going, if you haven't figured it out by now that will only piss him off even more. You basically need to have a heart to heart with him and ask him what he believes is wrong and how he thinks it could be fixed. Don't tell him what to do, let him tell you how he's going to get himself out of this and you work with that. Kovy is an emotional player CarboEgo better deal with this delicatly or else good bye season...

shuttle-lemaire-lafleur's picture
Hey...enough of the Carbo bashing,if 4,500,000 a year can't get Kovalev going,nothing will. How can he have a heart to heart? Kovalev has no heart to begin with! What he needs is a kick in the ***!

HAB-PROFESSOR's picture
If we lose Kovy, we will fall back at least 5 years.... He needs to play 29 minutes / game, he needs to be run into the ground, thats what you do with elitist players, you use them and make them elevate themselves. Keenan had it right... ----- 1. Kovalev is now in his prime, he just needs linemates at his level.. 2. Our VETERAN YOUTH: PAX, D'AGS, OBRYNE, HENRY & STEW must stay on the team if we hope to contend for the cup.

The Cat's picture
That I agree, Kovalev to be effective needs to be run into the ground. Kovalev would stay on for 5 minutes straight if he could. He is the type that needs to think and to be shown that the team depends on him. Only thing though, hes only been effective on the powerplay mostly in recent months.

HAB-PROFESSOR's picture
I still maintain that he is the least of our worries...

Are you kidding?If you want to see a guy figure skate for 29 minutes your watching the wrong sport.Kovelev is not playing team first hockey and not willing to get is nose dirty for the team.Carbo is right in benching him and maybe he should sit him for a game or 2.

AlexKovalevAK27's picture
Not get his nose dirty? are you kidding me??? he's the only player on the team who carries the puck into the zone and gets a beating doing it. He's always battling along the boards and most of the time there's 2 guys on him now. Maybe not play him 29 min but at least 21,22 min per game.

AlexKovalevAK27's picture
That's exactly what I'm saying... Give him the minutes he needs and he will respond. Playing with 4th liners will not help him, carbo is going back to the same tactics he did 2 years ago and they didn't work. He should have an honest conversation with Kovy and lay it all out on the table. Basically they need him if they want to go far. Here's an exact quote of Cardo at the all-star weekend "We were looking at each other on the bench, and even Claude Julien kind of knew that," Carbonneau said of Kovalev's luck with goalposts this season. "We still have a lot of games left, and maybe in the last game of the Stanley Cup final it will hit the inside of the post and go in."

Fenrir767's picture
Explain to me then how else you get a message across to your superstar and just took two bad penalties, performed terribly in a 5 on 3 and has spent more time this game turning about with the puck then scoring or making plays.

AlexKovalevAK27's picture
If carbo would stop juggling with the lines EVERY game (now that it's February) and not have Kovy playing with NO skill fourth line players he'd be doing just fine. Kovy needs a center to help him out if you haven't noticed, Pleks plays like a little girl who's afraid to get hit. (not what Kovy needs) Have you seen the beating that Kovalev get's every game now that he's a marked man... I can admit that he's lazy at times but that hasn't really been the case this year... up until the all-star break he was playing good but had very bad luck. Now that Koivu is back there seems to be a problem. Carbo needs to put that big french ego aside and sincerely speak with his player. Like I said we need Kovalev to win (He was benched in the third and did we come back) NOPE...

Fire_Laraque's picture
Yeah, that's right. And he should bring a box of kleenex to wipe his nose off for when he starts crying because he always has 4 players on his back. FOR GOD'S SAKE!!!! IT'S NOT CARBO'S FAULT IF KOVY KEEPS THE PUCK UNTIL HE LOSES IT AND WHEN HE LOSES IT, STOPS SKATING AND BACK CHECKS LIKE A TURTLE! It's easy to always blame the coach. When Julien was here, it was his fault he couldn't motivate the guys. Then, Gainey's and now Carbo. ACCOUNTABILITY. That's what's missing right now. Bunch of whiners! "Why didn't Laraque score 50 goals this year?"

You are correct sir!

AlexKovalevAK27's picture
Your not even worth replying to

Habsrule1's picture
Actually, he's right. Could you be a little biased? No, of course not...your pic doesn't give it away! Go Habs Go!! "I can't hear what Jeremy(Roenick) is saying because my Stanley Cup rings are in my ears" - Patrick Roy

AlexKovalevAK27's picture
I think I read your a Kovy fan but you find he floats out there sometimes and I can agree he does but at the same time I'm a big Kovy fan (So talking *** about him won't happen) also not a band wagon jumper like the others in here(I'm not saying you are) but people need to point the responsibility elsewhere also. Read the post by "Submitted by Tom S. on Mon, 02/02/2009 - 14:52" above that's what the problem is and what needs to be done.

Habsrule1's picture
I definitely do not think it's just Kovy's fault. I think he's an amazing player, but it seems he's content to know that instead of showing it every game. I also tend to believe he should almost pick his linemates...seems ridiculous, eh? "Ok, Alex...who do you want to play with? Who best suits your game"? We try that for the rest of the year....unless we see it's a useless line. Everyone blames Carbo, but what's he to do with him? I'd be discouraged in Carbo's place. Go Habs Go!! "I can't hear what Jeremy(Roenick) is saying because my Stanley Cup rings are in my ears" - Patrick Roy

AlexKovalevAK27's picture
I don't know if it's just me but there seems to be a problem in the dressing room. Similiar to the problems of 2 season ago where the team was split in 2 or 3 groups. I honestly believe if Kovy had the right center he'd be fine. Last year Pleks had no fear, he'd drive the net with that amazing speed, battle in the corner and for some reason he hasn't found his balls since the Boston series. If asking Kovy who he wants to play with is what it takes to get him going again then carbo has nothing to lose. If it works great if not he can continue the line guggling act.

A let's get rid of Carbo and have Kovelev as coach,captain,gm you think that would boost his ego enough to switch from figure skater to a hockey player.

AlexKovalevAK27's picture
Why are you such a clown? the team is struggling... where were you last year when he carried this team?

Last year he played a team game, this year he is playing like he is the team.

AlexKovalevAK27's picture
Last year he had a center to play with, not a fairy. You make it seem like Kovalev is the only problem. The entire team is Struggling.

HAB-PROFESSOR's picture
Carb would never agree to that...

Habsrule1's picture
As I said, it's a bit off-kilter, but I might do that. It's also not to say it hasn't been attempted. We're not privy to these things. Perhaps someone in the media (Boone, Stubbs, etc) can somehow find out if this has ever been discussed....? Maybe it's time to put Pleks & AK46 with him again...?? Go Habs Go!! "I can't hear what Jeremy(Roenick) is saying because my Stanley Cup rings are in my ears" - Patrick Roy

AlexKovalevAK27's picture
I'd like to see that line back together for more than just 1 or 2 games...

Habsrule1's picture
I agree. As I said before, there are some things that baffle me about Carbo. I do think he is a very good coach now, and will be a great one eventually, but I'd love to know what he's thinking sometimes. In his defense, Pleks has showed very little consistency, and losing is not really an option in this city. Go Habs Go!! "I can't hear what Jeremy(Roenick) is saying because my Stanley Cup rings are in my ears" - Patrick Roy

Fire_Laraque's picture
OUPS

Hey dintrox I was hatched a habs fan 61 yrs ago and I,ll die a habs fan.The reason we have opinions is because we care; we,re not indefferent so get off your high horse tabardnac.

Habsrule1's picture
There are opinions and there there is bitching. A fan can give his opinion, but when they threaten to change teams or give up on the team, that's just sad. Even giving up is an opinion, but I will not do that with the management and coaching staff that is in place in Montreal. Go Habs Go!! "I can't hear what Jeremy(Roenick) is saying because my Stanley Cup rings are in my ears" - Patrick Roy

Marty's picture
Vinny VS Saku... Here is an interesting statistic for all you Hab fans who believe that Vinny is the next hab's Messiah. Please go on line and check how many games and how many points Saku has compared to Vinny and then reply back to this post and tell me if you think one man makes a team. After you check and double check and compare the stats, ask yourself if it's worth a 10 million dollar risk. Go ahead.... I'm waiting.... Real Men Wear Black

smiler2729's picture
Gotta love the little captain.

TheDagger's picture
Let's face it, the Habs lost yesterday because they had a big Maple Leaf on their chest, losing comes with that type of jersey.

SlovakHab's picture
I thought the maple leaf was a symbol of your country and your national team wears it. But then, what can a young Slovak Hab know...

Habsrule1's picture
Good point, but I think he was referring to the potential bad luck because it looks more like the laffs maple leaf. Speaking of which, did anyone else notice that ever since the sens added those 0's on the shoulders of their jerseys they've been going downhill? Go Habs Go!! "I can't hear what Jeremy(Roenick) is saying because my Stanley Cup rings are in my ears" - Patrick Roy

SlovakHab's picture
I know it referred to the Leafs jersey. Hey, Habsrule! Do you still remember our old bet about Kovalev? So whaddaya reckon? I still think he's worth nothing this season.. How'bout you?

Habsrule1's picture
To be honest, I don't remember our bet. I like Kovy, but have always considered him somewhat of a floater...plays when he feels like it. It's just that he can be sooo good when he's on. Go Habs Go!! "I can't hear what Jeremy(Roenick) is saying because my Stanley Cup rings are in my ears" - Patrick Roy

SlovakHab's picture
I can't disagree that he's talented. What I was sayin' at the beginning of the season was that he's not even worth a top 4 d-man because he's got such a bad influence on his team sometimes. We had quite an exchange of words over him, and I said I'm ready to apologize if he steps up and proves me wrong. It was about 30-40 games ago.

Habsrule1's picture
Are you sure that wasn't Habs-Professor? Maybe my age is catching up to me, but I've never been a HUGE Kovalev supporter. I may have had a hard time saying we should get rid of him, and I'm still on the fence, but a top 4 D is pretty valuable. If it was me, I'd have to say you were right. Go Habs Go!! "I can't hear what Jeremy(Roenick) is saying because my Stanley Cup rings are in my ears" - Patrick Roy

SlovakHab's picture
I don't argue with Habs-Professor.. You know, he's a Professor :) I am just another Habs fan, probably the only one in my country. That's all. Let's swap Kovalev for Chara straight up. Who's not against?

Habsrule1's picture
I'd probably trade him for any top 4 D out there right now, and again, I like Kovy...but he takes too many shifts off. Go Habs Go!! "I can't hear what Jeremy(Roenick) is saying because my Stanley Cup rings are in my ears" - Patrick Roy

Fenrir767's picture
It's a reference to how much it looks like the leafs jersey lol

TheDagger's picture
Clearly it was a shot at the Maple Leafs, clearly.

Fenrir767's picture
Well one Thing I gotta say is I used to follow Hockey on and off always routing for the Habs mind you but this year I have been following it missing maybe 1 or two games and to those of you that don't think we have a Stanley Cup Team you're dead wrong. Now Gainey and Carbonneau have put a team together that can bring home a cup when they play up to their potential now that's just something that hasn't happened in a long time. But if you watch for it you can definitely see it. Halak was absolutely amazing against Boston earlier this year while Price was injured felt like I was watching Price not Halak D'agostini has great position on the ice and can often get himself open for scoring chances a lot of players don't notice him including his own. Was at the leafs game in January and saw plenty of Times that D'Ags could have gotten the puck Andrei Kostitsyn, When that guy is on his on sadly when he's cold he's cold. O'byrne now I hated that guy when I saw him start this year he just didn't look up to the task, these past few games wow what a huge difference if he had been playing like that all season where would be now. Kovalev, Where's the Kovi we saw at the all star game passing actually looking to pass rather than charge in on a great breakaway. Where is the team player who set up some nice plays. All-Star Kovi would be great to see on the Ice in Montreal regularly. And I could go on and on and on. I think the issue we have is this one when the guys play good they are amazing and when they are bad they are terrible but they don't play as a team. So far the only part of the team that has worked since you put them together, Steve Begin, Guillaume Latendresse, Tom Kostopolous and Maxime Lapierre. Look at the ligne no matter what caliber of team we are playing they have at least 5 or 6 good scoring chances per game (Just gotta capitalize more) That's the one part of our team that worked really well. Also Koivu with D'agostini wow were those two in Synch. Now it's up to the coache and the players, the team needs to get in synch and needs to amp it up, we are hurting but when you look what was added to the ligne up this year how can you not see a great cup contender if the guys were playing the way they needed to be and could be With all the talent we have this team really could be a contender but unlike teams like Boston and San Jose we don't have great team work and we see a lot of poor and lazy decision sometimes (I'm looking at you Komisarek why are we so rushed to clear the zone when we have control with 3 seconds left take you're time make the right play) We did play really well against the leagues best team and it cost us the thing is not to say thing like Doom and Gloom, Gainey and Caroboneau have done a great job and we had the team they just weren't and still aren't meshing together. Once they can find that great team play(I'm talking to you Kovalev) and play at their full potential you'll see just how good the Habs really are. I'm waiting to watch us bounce back tomorrow and show the NHL who we really are. We did amazingly well when bitten bad by the Injury bug let's do it again!!! I believe Go Habs Go

HAB-PROFESSOR's picture
I'll tell you where KOVY has been, playing with 4th line pluggers, and getting less minutes than Kostop on the PP....ask CarbEgo about that B.S....but when we were 11-1 a few games ago, Kovy was leading the way with the Veteran Youth. I knew this was going to happen when the injured players returned, and Carb had some serious decisions to make....

Habsrule1's picture
The skid started with the young guys in the lineup....and they have not really helped us get out of it to be honest. The team needs the real veterans to step it up....and they will. that includes Kovalev, and when he plays better next game, you can thank Carbo for benching him. We all know Kovy is stubborn, and I think Carbo showing him he's not immuned to a benching will have helped! Carbo made Lapierre what he has become. It's a much tougher task to get Kovy going. I love Kovy, but he floats an awful lot! Go Habs Go!! "I can't hear what Jeremy(Roenick) is saying because my Stanley Cup rings are in my ears" - Patrick Roy

HAB-PROFESSOR's picture
First, i am hoping to God that Kovy hasn't been fired off the team, because if that happens our season of hopes is done. What is strange is there has been no news....this worries me. as for the Veteran Youth Movement, I don't have the stats but I'm positive that our best stretch of the season 11-1, is with them in the lineup and Kovy as Captain, then Koivu returned and a game later Higgs, then the florida state debacle...not really blaming those to returning players, but CarbEgo and his breaking down that which was working.

Habsrule1's picture
Do you really think Carbo should leave Koivu & Tang in the press box and try to get the team going again that way? The kids are good and going to be great but they have not been playing all that great during this slump either. Stew is good too, but he's not part of the solution. The team is not better with him in the lineup...although I think he has a place on this team next year or the year after. Go Habs Go!! "I can't hear what Jeremy(Roenick) is saying because my Stanley Cup rings are in my ears" - Patrick Roy

HAB-PROFESSOR's picture
Koivu has to be in the lineup and Tang needs another chance, I don't disagree there, I just don't want Carb screwing up or mixing up 3 other lines just to re-insert these guys, thats the problem. And at the end of the day (hopefully before the playoffs) you have to stand back and look at what you have and where you are lacking.... I can tell you right now its TOUGHNESS, because we will be killed in that Dept come playoff time, so you pull out your scales and start measuring: STEW vs PLEK HENRY etc....and make sure you have enough North American Toughness on at least 2 lines and Defense, remember we don't have Souray anymore, and Komi can't be dropping them anymore..., then you can finesse the other lines to the maximum.

Here's an interesting scenario what if you couldnt trade anyone? Ya had to fix what you have and were allowed two additional players to fix what you have.What would you do.I have my ideas but I'd be curious to see what folks would do if they couldnt trade or fire the whole team.

smiler2729's picture
I'd also like to see which Kostitsyn garners the most interest out there but I don't know if I'd trade one yet. I sure don't want the Kostitsyn brothers to end up being perceived like the Sedin sisters, I swear those two probably call their mommy from their bunkbed after each game ("Did you see my goal, mommy? Did you see my pass to Daniel, mommy? Is it a long pants day or a short pants day, mommy?")

i'd add boumeester and anthropov. piece back together what remains of last years lines and kick some but on the pp with that shiny new point man...Having the point man on the pp gives us a second option and literally lets all those slumping scorers light it up. When they light it up on the pp theyll light it up 5 on 5

HAB-PROFESSOR's picture
This is an easy question, CarbEgo has to put his EGO aside, and look at 2 things: 1. what unique talent does a player bring 2. what combination's gave us the most success Andre-Plek-Kovy - IF Kovy is still on the team and hasn't been run out of town by CarbEgo, then we have to return to the NHL's most potent line, And I'm talking about 20 GAME MINIMUM...stick with it...now if you insist on using Andre elsewhere, then PAX is the man. 25min/game D'ags-Koivu-Pax - the speed, grit and talent of the veteran youth movement have given new fire to Koivu, as they did to Kovy and Poor Langy. 20min/game Lats-Laps-Kostop - Laps is the leader here and Kostop is fearless, Lats is strong as a bull, great 3rd line. 10min/game Larock-Begin-Stew - this firepower element is needed BIGTIME, max 5mins/game Komi/Mark - Hammr/Obyrne - Cube/Henry lets go get that cup!!!!!

McPhee35's picture
I agree with that roster 100% with one change. I would replace D'ags with Higgins. D'ags has lost his step a little, and I'm loving Higgins' heart lately... also, the way he shoots from everywhere. Other then that, great ideas.

AlexKovalevAK27's picture
I couldn't have said it better myself... Kovy needs to play at least 20 min per game. As weird as this sounds Kovy needs to feel needed. He's the type of player that wants to team to rely on him. As for CardEgo you are right on... That clowns head is so inflated and the sad part is he's fueled big time by the french media (not a surprise) there the reason Lahopeless is on the team...

smiler2729's picture
I'd see what I could get for Markov

Dintrox's picture
I've been a Habs fan for almost 3 decades. I have seen some highs ('86 and 93 come to mind) and some lows ( the 4 -5 year span just before Mr. Gillette bought the team.). But I never give up on the Habs. Some of you want to call it a season with 30+ games to play and a month until the trading deadline. Well, go hang up your sweater and get off the band wagon. See ya later when times are good. As for me, I wear the colours with pride and I believe we will make the playoffs in 4th or 5th and from there who knows.

As have I. Habs fan.It's like being a Catholic, we can criticize the church but don't anyone else dare! However, there are a few here who seem to want to eliminate ALL criticism. That way lies, LEAFDOM. I'm a fan not a Koolaid drinker and when my team's playing sucks, I'll say so. That's what keeps the Habs better than the Leafs. We shouldn't accept this crap that we're watching, with a dumb happy face.

coachdoug's picture
Good post... "It ain't over tille we say it's over" - Belushi If anyone wants to sell some LG/XL Habs sweaters let me know...

Agreed. Heck why are we crying over that loss? The team was in it for most of the game. Even after Lang, D'Agostini and Latendresse went down, the team still pressured Boston. (Who, might I remind everyone, is currently the owner of the best record in the league.) Detroit is in a slump right now and nobody is talking about how that team should be dismantled. My point is that there are still 32 games for this team to get back on track and that's more than enough time. However two things must be accomplished: 1. Somehow BG has to acquire the depth necessary to compensate for the loss of Lang. I'm not saying Lecavalier has to start packing his bags and listing his Tampa real estate, however some sort of move will be required for the team to be successful. We have depth, but we need a catalyst to get people going again. 2. Carbonneau needs to find a way to get his players to play to their potential. I don't like the parallels between this team and the funk the Senators found themselves in. (Talent, but no results.) This team didn't overachieve last year, they simply played with that desire. Somehow somebody has to bring it back. Of course how you do that is the million dollar question.

Habsrule1's picture
I will stand proudly by your side, Dintrox. Go Habs Go!! "I can't hear what Jeremy(Roenick) is saying because my Stanley Cup rings are in my ears" - Patrick Roy

HugeHabsFan's picture
I'm there too Dintrox. That was perfectly stated. All this garbage being slung around here is starting to grind my gears. ........... "To you from failing hands we throw the torch. Be yours to hold it high." I STILL BELIEVE. I WILL ALWAYS BELIEVE.

I wonder what Big Jean,Henri,Yvan are thinking about the kovy situtation?Great players don,t think their great they just play great no mattwer whose on their line.Pretty sad when your supposed best player sulks because of his line mates.It,s too bad kovy doesn,t play the game with the same passion that Begin does.The man needs a heart transplant.

no disrespect intended at all ...more of a general observation really....I love how everyone in here including myself at times seem to think we have ESP when it comes to know what's going on in Kovy's mind.We incinuated he was sulking because of who he was playing with.When asked in the interview about playing with Begin his immediate response was "that's coach's decision, I'm just a player,I dont ask to play with anyone(in particular),I just go out and try to do my best" Now having said that on the bench I never seen him seethe as many of you have suggested..In fact the only time I've seen his face change is when he laughing with a teammate.Sometimes I think we get caught up in what each other types and create things that arent there.It makes for much more interesting fodder to comment about. I got caught up in it last night when some one wrote about Carbo's comments about Kovy's play it was nearly as humiliating as was incinuated.I could've chose better words on Carbo's part but I will never again comment on things until I get the full picture.

Verduner's picture
It's over...can someone shut off the lights...thanks!!

Habsrule1's picture
They've been shut....on you. Go cheer for the leafs now. Go Habs Go!! "I can't hear what Jeremy(Roenick) is saying because my Stanley Cup rings are in my ears" - Patrick Roy

HAB-PROFESSOR's picture
OBYRNE vs HENRY vs BREEZE so lets answer a more important question thats being overshadowed by the Kovy/Lang/Carb/Gorges news etc... what do you think of OBRYNE & HENRY and have they displaced Breeze? I think they have 110%. Obryne has been VERY solid since returning, and has been very very physical with no big mistakes. His hit on Ryder was awesome and that element alone puts him above Breeze. As for HENRY, we need that tough SOB on the roster, Larock isn't around and will not fight all the time with the code BS, but not HENRY....if you think that element isn't needed going down the stretch, then you don't know hockey....as for his defensive play? STELLAR SOLID, very little error, in fact NO error. very stay at home, which is good. the only downside is their outlet passes...but what would you rather have? an outlet pass or TOUGHNESS, 6'6" 235lb ANIMALS....ask Philly if they'd rather play against Henry/obryne, or the old man...

Henry is a low-caliber NHL player (if he was higher, someone else would have him). I'm ok with this, as I also believe he brings an element of toughness and -in-your-face that some players are lacking. There are 30 games left and Brisebois needs something like 8 to reach the 1000 mark. Out of loyalty (his and the teams) I'd make sure he got those 8 games, but I agree - the future is OB/Henry.

HAB-PROFESSOR's picture
sure, give him 8 and give Obryne/Henry the other 22...and let the wet noodle nightmare end....please!

While we haven't seen much of Henry at this point, I think the role he plays is something missing from this team. If we're comparing mediocre defensive skills with occasional lapses, I'd take the tough guy over the veteran. Brisebois has a role on this club, but it's not as a #6.

HAB-PROFESSOR's picture
you think? !!! my God we need some tough North American Grit, tough drop the gloves SOB's....I'm tired of the Habs being laughed at...too soft B.S....

smiler2729's picture
I think Patrice Brisebois is overused and tired and yeah, it's time. I'd rather have O'Byrne up and learning (like Komisarek did) and Henry. Isn't it much more effective to have your 'enforcer' be a defenceman and not waste a forward spot since most teams play a couple of defence pairings and use the 3rd simply to spell the other two?

HAB-PROFESSOR's picture
correct, HENRY is exactly what we need...a giant tough SOB defenseman...Breeze has just become #8 in my books.