Habs acquire Mathieu Schneider

posted by Pat Hickey at 15h41 EST on Feb 16


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Mathieu Schneider in a 1990s game at the Forum, covering Pittsburgh's Mario Lemieux.
Denis Brodeur, NHLI via Getty Images

The Canadiens added a veteran presence to their defensive corps today when they reacquired Mathieu Schneider, a former Canadien, from the Atlanta Thrashers.

The Canadiens surrendered a second-round pick in this summer's draft (the choice they acquired from Washington for Cristobal Huet) and a third-round pick in 2010. The Canadiens also receive a conditional pick, at best Atlanta's third-round choice this year.

In a 5 p.m. conference call with the media, Bob Gainey said Schneider was the best player currently available to fill the Canadiens' needs. Gainey also cautioned that salary cap constraints preclude, at least for the moment, acquisition of another player in the $5 million to $6 million salary range.

Two excerpts from Gainey's remarks: Audio I and II.

The Canadiens will pay a prorated portion of Schneider's $5.625 million salary. He becomes the team's second highest-paid player after Andrei Markov, who is making $5.75 million this season.

The team cleared roster and cap space by sending Ryan O'Byrne to Hamilton and placing Robert Lang on injured reserve.



McKeen's Hockey Yearbook on Schneider:

Stabilized the Ducks upon returning from a fractured ankle and was a model of consistency going 32 games (Dec-to-Mar) without recording a negative plus-minus, the longest streak in the NHL ... a quick, mobile rearguard with a howitzer slapshot ... plays much tougher than his size and has steadily matured into one of the league's more reliable puckmovers and decisive powerplay quarterbacks ... unntamed and erratic early in his career, yet now plays very much in control ... poised under pressure and a savvy defender, patient in his positional play and wisely picking safe times to join the attack ...


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Ryan Smythe I meant.

Any relation to Conn...

Smyth..............happy now???????

What does everyone think about possibly getting Ryan Smith on our roster??? I'm just throwing this out there but I think he would be the type of forward the Habs need at this time. I don't know what his salary is or what the Habs would probably have to give up for him. What does everyone think?

mrhabby's picture
signed at 6.25m until the 2012 season.

TripleX's picture
Signed a huge contract as a free agent, I do not know the numbers off hand. He was a good power forward once, but time and injuries have seen a decline in his abilities. His time has passed.

I think he would be a good mentor for Pacioretty and he would bring some grit and skill, a rare combo, especially here.

Fully agree with Montreal not being the first choice and if Vinny is possibly in play then he is without doubt the best amongst those who aren't going to factor into the playoffs. If Vinny were to be traded and someone other than Montreal met Tampas demands and he landed elsewhere, then I think Bob would be shot on sight.Tampa is in the drivers seat for sure but there has never been a better time for Gainey to make the deal. He has lots of money coming free next year and has a whole bunch of guys that gotta go anyway. His only real problem is they say no to the ones he wants to get rid of and ask for the likes of Dags or Pacs or Lapierre and other young NHL ready talent(basically the future).

nfldanchor's picture
Triplex, Tanguay was leading the team in points before he was injured. So bringing your top point getter back into the lineup should make a big difference. Also he is one of the fastest skaters in the league,thats why he used to play with Sakic .We need speed and a set up man who can also score and Tanguay is it. So I disagree with your comments regarding Tanguay. Also Koivu and Higgins had a long layoff with injuries and they are just starting to get back in game shape. When Tanguay returns we will have our first line back together.

TripleX's picture
No one in Calgary ever disputed the offensive skills of Tanguay, even Keenan admitted to it. What was questioned was his willingness to pay the price to make a play and his disappearing act in tough games. He was sent to the press box on numerous occasions even though the Flames lacked scoring punch. Koivu? I LOVE the guy, he can do no wrong in my book, he is 100% heart. My greatest disappointment this year is for him and I want BG to immediately give him a contract extension. Higgins? I am one of the few who likes the guy and thinks he is a valuable asset. He is having a horrible season true. Injuries, confidence, coaching or all of the above? I am sure he will rebound and will become a top forward. This team needs more than the return of Tanguay and the signing of a 39 year old D man to turn this mess around.

Tanguay did win a cup in 01 with a pretty good playoff preformance! I think he has the ability to turn this team around! He has plenty of skill and is a playoff preformer! As for Koivu and Higgins i agree 100% Koivu is all heart! Higgins has the talent to be a 30 goal scorer with a defensive side people are always too hard on him and with his injuries hasnt had the season he is capable of! As for the 39 year old D man i think your very wrong! Everyone looked at streit as a god last year but really he did nothing and was horrible in the playoffs! All he had was a shot! He barely did anything on the pp! All Schneider is a more experienced shot with a 12 goal season in anaheim last year in 65 games! Streit had 13 goals in 81 games last year! What most people dont see is that it was the shot that scored it was the fear of the shot that gave kovalev and other forwards more room down low to score! That room is gone now but with him shooting you will see a big difference! Hockey is a game of inchs and thats what he gives kovy which is enough room for him to make a play or take that shot that leads to a goal! Plus with guys like Weber and Yemelin coming next year we dont need to keep him and losing that 2nd round pick isnt that troubling as we have massive amounts of very talented prospects coming up! One less wont hurt!

Watched the Ottawa game last night. For those who are wondering what influence a coach can have on a team look no further than Ottawa. Here's a guy who said stop laying back and waiting for the opposition to gain our zone and go to a two one two style of forechecking. If Carbo sticks with the game plan we've witnessed over the last several games where we give up 20 shots in a period, it won't matter how many guys you sign. As for the trade, can't really hurt but it goes to show just how little there is out there and how it takes two to trade. I don't know where people think we're going to get this great new signing at the trade deadline. Surely teams in the mix are not going to trade away their best players.The only teams likely to do that are those who are not in playoff contention. SO what do the last place teams have that you want and are they willing to give up their best talent. Sorry folks but I think the big signings come during free agency and not via a trade. We do have the horses, we just need people behind the bench who are willing to change once they see how their current strategy is failing.

TripleX's picture
I agree with everything you said except for free agency vs trades. As Habs fans, we have to accept the grim reality that Montreal will never be a first choice for free agents. That leaves only the trade avenue to get an impact player. I still believe Vinny is available if BG is willing to pay the price. It is a tremendous gamble, but with high risk comes high reward. I worry that BG is just too conservative to ever make such a deal. I am tired of waiting, and watching mediocre teams and would welcome a big trade.

TripleX's picture
This deal only makes sense if it is part of another bigger deal for an impact player. If it is a one off deal, then it is a bad desperation move on the part of BG. This team as built is going nowhere if it makes the playoffs at all. I like Schneider and felt we should have gone after him long ago, at this point it is less palatable. A second round pick in a very good draft year is a high price. I hope GG did not pressure BG to get a part time player to make sure we make the playoffs. As for the expectations that Tanguay will make a big difference when he returns, that is doubtful. Tanguay was run out of Calgary because he was a skilled but SOFT player, and we have plenty already. He was also already slumping before he was injured.

we have to stop relying on the PP so much and start playing better 5 on 5 and be better on the PK. Live by the sword die by the sword

What PP?

nfldanchor's picture
I think its a brilliant move by BG to bring in an experienced defenceman who has had previous success in a Habs uniform . He will help the powerplay has some grit to his game and can still handle the puck very well and has a decent shot . I always thought the Habs made a mistake when he was traded. He was a great defencemen for the Habs in the past and I think he will give this team a boost on the point where its needed. Next move get rid of Carbo! When Lats and Tanguay are back we will get back to our winning ways.

kakey's picture
Wasn't Schneider placed on waiver by the Ducks earlier in the season?

nickster13's picture
I think so, probably because Anaheim is tight under the cap. They got selanne back and thats why bobby ryan couldnt play with them at first cuz he couldnt fit under their cap, so i think it was more a money issue

Fire_Laraque's picture
Yup, because they have Pronger, Niedermayer and Beauchemin. Who needs schneider at 5.6 Mill when you have that brochette of players? "Why didn't Laraque score 50 goals this year?"

Old time hockey is back Don Cherry

nickster13's picture
Hey people! Schneider is a great pickup, im sure he will see some 4th line duty with lapierre. lol i hope not. but seriously, he could only help since we didnt give anybody up so lets hope he plays like he did a couple seasons ago in detroit

joeybarrie's picture
I think picking up Schneider is a very good thing. He brings alot of experience and stability. He has had a VERY GOOD career, and if he turns into how Lang was doing we will be looking good. A defensive forward hopefully can help our power play too. We still need one of two things. Our players to show some grit and desire, or bring in a guy who will. If we got to get rid of some to get it, let's do it.

so, in 6 weeks when Schneider is gone, again(UFA), we'll be in the same situation as before Schneider. now that Gainey says he won't be pursuing a 5 or 6 mil player, that means no top center, and no other deal at the deadline, as usual. welcome to the Montreal mediocrities!

mrhabby's picture
unless BG moves some players in a large trade then yes. have you forgotten about Tanguay , Lats returning shortly this will help and i would not forget about that large trade it could happen so will see.

Corporate's picture
Really..Mediocricies??? 1) Tanguay 2) Lang 3) Hamerlik 4) Gorges Amongst teh players he pursued but it didn't pan out.. 1) Shanahan 2) Briere 3) Hossa 4) Sundin Still think he is a GM that does nothing... ------------------------------------------------------------------- Koivu for Prime Minister...

The way I see this trade is we pick up an old guy who has some gas in the tank,so we have a better shot at the playoffs, and the revenue. I think were a better team this morning and Gainey can get rid of some of our old guys we dont need and replace the draft choices.

shuttle-lemaire-lafleur's picture
I like the addition of Schneids,good pick-up for now. Hey...if it makes the PP more effective which I think it will,its a good move. He still skates well and has a good hard accurate shot from the point. I think there is something else in the works...this is only the begining...we still need a centre.

theflower's picture
Well, it's hard to get excited about Schneider when he has been a minus player. I mean sure he might help the power play, but do we need more minus players? We have plenty of them right now. I now some of you will say he was playing on Atlanta, but honestly Atlanta is a better situation than us right now and he was a minus. Scary thought no? BG says he has no money left so unless salaries are exchanged we are done that is our deadline deal. Wow if this is the case, can you say pathetic! I guess we will have to wait and see, but right now things look bleak, grim and even worse. I wish I could spin this positively, but unfortunately I have to take a wait and see approach.

mrhabby's picture
its not over yet ..lets see what happens. we will get into the playoffs and then anything can happen. we lots of FA's so the team could look a lot different next year.

Bugs's picture
Sorry, Guy. Even with the slump, we're not in a worse situation than da Trashers. Still rather be in our place than theirs. Schneider will be bring more to us than he did to da Trashers. Peace Out _____________________________________________________ Lord Bugs Potter, esq. Earl of Fluppitburg, Baron of Fleenshire County and Knight of the Flannel Republic.

xaverian001's picture
Wow we finally topped 1000 posts!! Can't wait to see Mathieu back in the bleu-blanc et rouge!!! You can't say Bob isn't trying to make this team better. Sure all the moves haven't necessarily panned out ... mainly because of injuries ... but he is doing an excellent job of giving this team a chance. Tanguay, Lang, LaROCK and now Schneider. Those are some big upgrades to the lineup!! Oh and he has given up jack squat to get them too.

RetroMikey's picture
Just in according to Team 990, Habs acquire Petr Svoboda Wow! Retro Days are back in Montreal! lol! "We will win the Cup only with Carey Price in the nets"

How about Sean Hill?

RetroMikey's picture
What about Rob Ramage? "We will win the Cup only with Carey Price in the nets"

This team merely scratched the surface on it's ineptitude on the western roadtrip. It's going to get even better tomorrow night in DC. You want real comedy, just wait for the next home game? They're gonna don their "chain gang" unis and ride around the Bell Center on tricycles before the game begins. Oh, I almost forgot about the squiting flowers too!

mrhabby's picture
yeats..u bring me down , u bring me up.. go habs go.

RetroMikey's picture
lol! Yeats, you're too much buddy! lol! That's why I love this site! "We will win the Cup only with Carey Price in the nets"

Xtrahabsfan's picture
I hope Petr is not costing the Habs $31 thousand a day as well!

WestHab's picture
I think this is good news and part of the solution. Nice to have him back in the CH. Welcome Mathieu. ------------------------------------------- Club de Bowling Canadien

Corporate's picture
Is this trade good. Yes... He will stabilize the defense along with the Hammer. but the problem isn't the defense.. Its the team. No one is playing decent hockey. Like I mentioned before. Kovalev is playing worse than 2 years ago. Sergei Kos. is static.. he isn't moving. So every pass made too him looks bad. I truly think that we went to get scheider because Komi is injured. I saw him play the other night and he flinches when using his arm. He will be taking a few games off... But this is just a feeling. ------------------------------------------------------------------- Koivu for Prime Minister...

coachdoug's picture
I am OK with this aquisition... Now Bob just needs to get us a coach...no salary cap issue there Bob!

The Cat's picture
Man, after listening Perron talk about Price on 110%, I dont know what to think about Price.

Don Carnage's picture
Yep and people called me a liar and I was bashed all over the place I told you guys there was a problem and now its coming out ... you think I am happy there is a problem? Your 100% wrong I love this team ... but we have a big problem in the dressing room or should I say in the bar's ?

Corporate's picture
'an.. I don't know what is sadder.. You watching 110% or you getting your news from Perron. They bitch, moan and complai about everything and most of the time they just yell.. Kind of lie parliament... If you want to get decent reactions watch antichambre or La zone on French-CBC. ------------------------------------------------------------------- Koivu for Prime Minister...

Just go out clubbing Downtown Mtl on a Sunday night, your chances of running into a Canadians player is quite high.

Bugs's picture
What? C'mon. Just because they're more exuberant doesn't make'em liars or incompetent. Just because they yell and cuss doesn't make them unfit to talk about a team and a game they love as much as us. They bitch and moan and complain SAME as everybody else, c'mon. They just don't pause for breath when they're doin it. Last thing: Gagnon and Villeneuve and Ciccone and Bergeron, know where they were afore La Zone and Antichambre? Those are excellent shows. But gimme 110%, guys. This is TV. C'mon! Peace Out _____________________________________________________ Lord Bugs Potter, esq. Earl of Fluppitburg, Baron of Fleenshire County and Knight of the Flannel Republic.

The Cat's picture
Well Demers did acknowledge that what Perron was saying had some truth to it.

fun police's picture
what was he saying?

The Cat's picture
That he had it on good sources that Sergei K, Higgins and Price were boozing quite a bit.

I have many friends in the "Clib Scenes" and they can all confirm seeing them there on a few occasions.

nickster13's picture
I also have heard stories from people i know about Sergei being a party animal, so probably some truth to him. as for price probably and higgins im kinda surprised!

RetroMikey's picture
Don't be surprised. They're human and if you play in Montreal, you are always a celebrity so these guys like Price, Higgins, Sergei Kostitsyn, O'Byrne better be careful how they act in public. Chelios and Corson in particular were party animals in the 80's but times are different now. "We will win the Cup only with Carey Price in the nets"

RetroMikey's picture
Don't be surprised. They're human and if you play in Montreal, you are always a celebrity so these guys like Price, Higgins, Sergei Kostitsyn, O'Byrne better be careful how they act in public. Chelios and Corson in particular were party animals in the 80's but times are different now. "We will win the Cup only with Carey Price in the nets"

Jeez, just like a lot of the fans. Oops, I forgot, we aren't playing.

Well the cat is out of the bag so to speak, so if need be I hope they tone it down

jrmatheson....Well seems Bob put another genie back in the bottle,no blockbuster comming.,no cap space too pull it off. I hope he reinforces the point with this team and makes a few offers to some free agents to drive the point home that they are it.A tough forward like Neil would help . schnieder will too. He will give Markov someone to distribute the puck to on the power play.He can shoot and teams will have to adjust to defend him hopefully opening up the boards for Kovalev if he is interested.spreading the defencive box will open up passing lanes for the team and hopefuly produce more goals on the pp.Tanguay will be back soon ,so lets hope that the team can focus on getting it together for the stretch run and playoffs.Finally rotate goalies game to game make them fight for the number one , sitting the bench for weeks at a time is no way to get your head into the game.

tony d's picture
Now that Bob Gainey has finally surfaced, does this mean we'll have 6 more weeks of winter? Or miserable hockey?

RetroMikey's picture
We need a big offensively skilled CMan and a big physical defensive oriented DMan. Schneider will only ease the situation of our weak D. We're still not tough enough on the D! We can make trades with expendable players like Sergei Kostitsyn, Ryan O'Byrne, Frances Bouillion, Steve Begin, Tomas Plekanec, Habs prospects in Subban, Webber, and draft picks. Any offers out there Bob?? "We will win the Cup only with Carey Price in the nets"

Habsman1970's picture
I have to say, it feel good to hear something positive coming out of Montreal right now.. I think Schneider will help out the young talent get better, and possibly help out the PP at the same time.. (hopefully) Onward and Upward..!!! Anyone know if he will be in the lineup for Wed game against the Caps??? ONCE A HAB, FOREVER A HAB!!!

badbalance's picture
Good move, didn't give much for him, now we can trade away a defender and others for BO, or someone else. Gainey knows what he's doing, whichever D doesn't perform now will get traded trust me.

Drive_For_25's picture
BO? Big Oli?

badbalance's picture
well i meant Bouwmeister, but Big Oli sound just as good ;)

Desperation at it's best: This deal smells of Carbo's influence and after obtaining assets so as to be active at the deadline, this makes no sense. A very elementary move.

Aaron13's picture
Gainey gave up a lot to acquire a possible stop-gap player.

What was Gainey going to do with those picks anyway? He's probably just waste them on a pair of Euro perimeter-playing softies.

mrhabby's picture
ummm, are you aware we get a conditional pick back from Atlanta depending on how far we go in the playoffs. so we give up a 3rd rounder, we get something back. pepps complained we needed another DMAN and some help on the PP and now they still complain.

Drive_For_25's picture
A second round pick is too much when it wasn't even ours to begin with, and not to mention we have had some of the best drafting in the last few years and have a nice stockpile of prospects who are already producing or lying in wait to get their chance. Not to mention the ones waiting in the juniors still. P.K is ranked in the top 5 for all OHL players (might be CHL but I think just OHL was the list I saw) and McDonaugh is a very high ranked defensive prospect who's only getting better. Does one second round pick still sound like too much?

showey47's picture
i don't think it's alot considering it will probably be nothing more then a 2nd rounder with the conditional pick coming back.I wouldn't be surprised if he still has another year left in him.Look at his point production over the last 3 years. The draft pick we traded may never play a game in the nhl or won't even get a chance to play in the nhl till 4 years from now

linp's picture
Agree! Also we need someone now before everybody gives up. I hope he can calm down the defense and support Carbo's "system". Keep puck control and not just dumping it out or icing it. The forward has to come back and support the "system" too.

barriesc's picture
omg how deluded can one get?

habs12345's picture
another dilusional habs fan......

The Professor's picture
another guy who can't spell

D-man's picture
another dillusional habs fan who can't spell that I TOTALLY AGREE WITH. it true only the french canadian players show up. it seems like the pride for the CH in non-canadian "canadiens" goes only so far.

habs12345's picture
if bob has the options too exchange the right package for a lecavalier level talent he will do it do you really think hes dumb enough not too? this guy is top 3 gm in the league you ppl should be happy too have him running our franchise i dont think most fans realize what a job he has done with the team from hiring timmins i DO not like kovalev as a leader of this team he is a bad role model however is still a capable power play specialist... possibly nothing more at this point.. but too say that bob gainey is an ahole as so many posted earlier or that he doesnt care..its just so moronic and really shows the lack of thought and respect towards your hockey insite

howtathor's picture
Yayyyy we got to 1000! See Bob what you can do when you're proactive? Night all!

Kristopher7's picture
1000 for Schneider folks.

I am glad he is back. I always liked him. I don't pretend to think he will make a difference but I think he can't do worse than the current D squad. I remember a game back from 94 when he totally pissed off 2 opposition players and then just skated away from the confrontation while the 2 bozos got 2 min each. Don't know why it stuck with me though.

The one thing about him is that he can be a nasty bastard. That is something the Habs' D has missed for a long time. (Komisarek? Please!) I hope that in his first practice with the squad he freakin' annihilates one of the Kostitsyns or some other pucksturbator just to make a point.

At 39 and knowing that he most likely won't be back with the club next year yuo think he'd really care that much? Lol... pucksturbators :)

He doesn't want to be embarrassed. And, how much effort could it possibly take to line up one of those pussies and put them in orbit. Crap, you'd think that Laraque would have done it already. That's right, excuse me, he isn't John Ferguson. "Screw the Code and all who adhere to it!" Yeats

Maybe we can start a few rumors about how the Kost brothers bagged Schneiders wife.... Then all we gotta do is lay in wait with the camera to catch the carnage on film. I'm picturing one Kost brother being used as a club to beat the other into a pulp. All the while you'll think your hearing the Back Street boys walk past an all girls elementary school. I wonder if we'd have to pay their salaries when they end up on the IR...60-90 days Reason: Bitch Slapped

LOL. They'll need Alexander Semin to save them!

howtathor's picture
I wonder what number he will wear? Will he play Wednesday in Washington? In '93 he wore number 27. Makes me wonder if that number will be available in the near future. Has been wearing 18 with Atlanta which we know is retired to a guy named Serge. Should help our PP if Carbo stops putting TTB and Laraque out there. Let the skilled players do their thing. PP unit 1 AK46 Pleks Kovy Markov Schneider unit 2 Higgins Koivu D'agostini Hamrlik Brisbois

Nahlsy's picture
Don't forget Tanguay, he's about to return to the lineup

Who is wearing 27 now?

Harditya_CareyPrice's picture
lol kovalev does

howtathor's picture
I don't know Timo, that number is invisible!

Kristopher7's picture
lol good ol' Timo.

Kristopher7's picture
Habs official site still has Schneider as numberless, I guess we'll find out by game time on Wednesday... It's too bad 18 and 27 are not available but as ghosts said 72 and 81 sound like cool picks, anxious to see what he decides to do.