Habs add Metropolit from Flyers
posted by Pat Hickey at 13h28 EST on Feb 27
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Submitted by Rovell on Sat, 02/28/2009 - 00:21.
I only got to see the 3rd and OT but Glen won a ton of faceoffs during the time I did get to watch.

Submitted by Bugs on Fri, 02/27/2009 - 21:24.
I remember Metropolit from Atlanta.
Remember that pre-4-game sweep when they were GOOD? They were the only team that knocked Halak outta the net during his great 2007 run. Remember Metropolit from THEN. Remember him from last season's series against the Teddy Bears.
When you REMEMBER players, it's because they leave an IMPRINT on the games they play, a point I've argued with AGAINST the likes of Antropov and Jokinen. These players, however effective they are, leave NO IMPRINT on the games they play. They have NO impact. Yes, Jokinen is talented. But I would look at a LOTTA guys afore I looked at him. I NEVER remember him.
Metropolit?
Great pick-up.
Peace Out
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Submitted by PrimeTime on Fri, 02/27/2009 - 18:32.
Some posters just dont quite get the cap rule or the REALITIES of the modern NHL, do they???
If any of you naysayers, jokers, or morons, remember Metropolit from last year he was very impressive as a hard nosed grinder. Exactlty the type of player many of the same people complain we do not have enough of. Philly has cap issues with players coming back from IR. It doesnt mean Metropolit is done....but is expendable as they have other Centres who they feel are more important to their team within the cap.
No, he's not an "elite" player but we CAN'T get one under our cap. BG hasnt joined the Penquins, Lightning, Rangers, Senators type of cap management with a few high end top salary players and cheaper fills in to round out the team. He has taken the approach of having players that fit into their philosophy of a more balanced team. The average gap between our high end and low end is much more balanced. The Habs dont need a "superstar" to draw fans. BG decided Hossa was too expensive last year (Pens suffering already) and Vinny was too expensive this year. Tampa would have done the deal if they were able to get what they wanted....BG said NO.
We will likely play Philly in the 1st round and having an extra motivated Metropolit against the team who cut him lose is a bonus.
Good pick up BOB!! Maybe the fans will learn someday that we cant have all the best players in the league wearing a Habs uniform....but then again some JUST DONT GET IT!!!
Submitted by nightmare_49 on Fri, 02/27/2009 - 19:32.
P T - I agree this ia a nice minor pick up as there are not many centers available as the Blue Jackets can attest and he is a team player which this team lacks but it depends on how he is used to evaluate his value to the team. Not a bad move at all.
Submitted by Yeats on Fri, 02/27/2009 - 17:56.
The huge deals just keep on coming! Woo, woo, woo!! Here comes that 25th Cup with a big red bow on it!!!

Submitted by crabvader on Fri, 02/27/2009 - 18:23.
These aren't big moves, I agree. But Gainey is making a smart move by getting a guy like Metropolit. Looks like they're pushing to make a 3 line team instead of a 4 line team. This way, the 4th line will bring grit and now they can also bring a lockdown power if we manage to get a lead. Metropolit is a very decent faceoff winner and a good backchecker. This will be fun to watch.
Submitted by mickeyD on Fri, 02/27/2009 - 17:51.
so this is Gainey's big move. yes folks Metropolit is our impact center, with a grand total of 4 goals. same crap every year. Gainey makes false promises to get an impact player, and never does it. all we ever get is other team's rejects! way to go Bob, with your team full of scrap parts.

Submitted by crabvader on Fri, 02/27/2009 - 18:25.
Last year, would you have been willing to give up 3 roster players for Hossa the way we were playing? 1st overall. Say what you want, but I bet the answer is no. Pittsburgh did it, and now look where they are. Gainey knew Hossa was a rental. Pittsburgh almost pulled out a cup, yes, but now they shot themselves in the leg with the dillusional thought of re-signing Hossa. Gainey wants an impact center, I'm sure. He's just not willing to blow up the team to get one.

Submitted by HABZ24 on Fri, 02/27/2009 - 17:32.
you can have vinny well take metropolit. stanley cup here we come. ya sure.

Submitted by longtimehabsfan on Fri, 02/27/2009 - 17:16.
Metropolit adds some grit and two way play. Looks like BG and Carbo and getting into playoff mode. Hopefully, Habs will qualify for the show.

Submitted by Willy the bum on Fri, 02/27/2009 - 16:47.
Metropolit played for the Bruins last year, eh?
Well, if the Bruins got Ryder, then what the hell...
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Submitted by D Alcorn on Fri, 02/27/2009 - 17:12.
I would recommend that everyone take a moment to read the human interest story kindly provided (see link above) by Pat Hickey.
For those unfamiliar with downtown TO, Regent Park is tough. In addition to depth at center, it appears that the acquisition of Glen Metropolit will also add character to the dressing room. Could be worse ...
Always Habs -
Dave Mex

Submitted by vaya_ on Fri, 02/27/2009 - 16:20.
i would have liked to see ossi vaananen, though. big d-man that can move the puck, same salary. still, there's no denying that metropolit brings more to the 4th line than chipchura at this point in time.

Submitted by Mike T on Fri, 02/27/2009 - 15:13.
Last night Gainey said he wanted a depth centreman to bolster our core of Koivu, Plekanec, Lapierre, and Chipchurra...considering he said all of their names and called them our 'core' im sure he won't be trading any of them.

Submitted by likehoy on Fri, 02/27/2009 - 15:07.
dandeneault wants out, so gainey was making sure he had veteran back up.
- does carbo bargain for the right Price before games?

Submitted by Ian G Cobb on Fri, 02/27/2009 - 16:53.
Dandeneault wants out, tell it like it is, he wants to play. Never mind the rumors please.

Submitted by Gr8stFranchizEvr on Fri, 02/27/2009 - 17:28.
Ian,
According to Dreger's lead on TSN (see link below), Dandy is asking to go elsewhere.
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=268811&lid=sublink08&lpos=topRelated_nhl

Submitted by craz11 on Fri, 02/27/2009 - 14:57.
This almost certainly means that Montreal will be moving a centreman.
Koivu has a no-trade clause. That leaves Plekanec, Lapierre, Chipchura.
Pleks has finally picked up his game. No sense in trading him.
That leaves Lapierre and Chipchura, and from what I've seen of Chipchura, he won't fetch much.
So that leaves Lapierre...
Not really liking the direction this is moving towards...

Submitted by cautiousoptimist on Fri, 02/27/2009 - 16:45.
I can't see Lapierre leaving -- he's cheap, signed through next year, and worth more to us than any team would give up for him.
1. www.flickeringpictures.com - not a hockey site, but still kinda neat
2. Josh Gorges on Montreal's attack: "They're comin', they're comin' and they keep comin'. Just line after line, wave after wave..."

Submitted by doug on Fri, 02/27/2009 - 15:19.
Chipchura to AHL as necessary. This is just insurance at center in event of injury. Underwhelming to be sure but hardly alarming.

Submitted by Tom S. on Fri, 02/27/2009 - 15:06.
If Gainey trades Lapierre he will have lost his mind.
Chipchura has not impressed me and I doubt he will be in our long-term plans.
Plekanec is finding his game - not sure where he lost it, though - and may have done some growing up this season, so I hope he's not moved. His line's starting to click again and will be counted on heavilty in the playoffs.

Submitted by likehoy on Fri, 02/27/2009 - 15:08.
you don't trade in a position of weakness and since plekanec is no longer weak...trade him before he gives us headaches again.
- does carbo bargain for the right Price before games?

Submitted by Corporate on Fri, 02/27/2009 - 17:24.
Even though he wasn't getting points, Pleky was working very well. yes he had a slump but look at the linemates he had to work with. Kovy was not playing to potential and A. Kos only started coming out of his shell near Christmas against the Pittsburgh penguins. So all in all... That kine is back and Pleky has played well... We can not.. and I repeat, Can Not trade him..
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Koivu for Prime Minister...

Submitted by likehoy on Fri, 02/27/2009 - 15:23.
i've been all for trading plekanec since december and now that he's hot people defend him...seriously boys...be consistent.
- does carbo bargain for the right Price before games?

Submitted by G-Man on Fri, 02/27/2009 - 15:21.
Quick, trade the team! Give up on every player that doesn't have 100 points per season.
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Submitted by davecessna on Fri, 02/27/2009 - 17:47.
Not very constructive, chief.

Submitted by davecessna on Fri, 02/27/2009 - 17:47.
Not very constructive, chief.

Submitted by doug on Fri, 02/27/2009 - 15:21.
One week changes everyone's perceptions out there? From bag of pucks to ovechkin?

Submitted by habs12345 on Fri, 02/27/2009 - 15:21.
according too your flawed logic lets just trade anyone who has the least bit of success in montreal YOU SCORED 2 GOALS OMG LETS TRADE YOU GET OUT

Submitted by Tom S. on Fri, 02/27/2009 - 15:15.
That's the dilemma, isn't it?
Would you have traded him last year before he stunk in the playoffs?
Imagine if he does get traded to "X" team and scores 30 goals a year after that, you'd want Gainey pilloried. Remember Ribeiro?

Submitted by likehoy on Fri, 02/27/2009 - 15:17.
there's always a risk in trading
no matter what happens you're under scrutiny...sucks but bob's the man
- does carbo bargain for the right Price before games?

Submitted by Tom S. on Fri, 02/27/2009 - 15:24.
"there's always a risk in trading"
That's why you'd want to mitigate your risks. Gainey knows this very well.

Submitted by Bob Barker on Fri, 02/27/2009 - 15:22.
Pleks is on fire, but Pleks at his best will likely never hit 90 points. I'd be willing to package him for Jokinen or Kovalchuk

Submitted by Tom S. on Fri, 02/27/2009 - 15:27.
No, probably not, but he was never thought of as a scoring machine in the mold of Kovachuk or Jokinen.
We drafted him as a 2nd-3rd centreman and as long as he's scoring at last year's pace, I say we keep him and find a 1st-line centreman to play in front of him.

Submitted by likehoy on Fri, 02/27/2009 - 15:24.
kovalchuk
- does carbo bargain for the right Price before games?

Submitted by G-Man on Fri, 02/27/2009 - 15:39.
You saw what Waddel received in exchange for Hossa, right? You think BG is willing to pay that exhorbitant a price? The short answer is no.
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Submitted by likehoy on Fri, 02/27/2009 - 15:52.
kovalchuk's signed on for one more year..
would you really miss higgins, plekanec, a first rounder (in the 20s), and dandeneault?
higgins > armstrong, plekanec > christensen, dandeneault < esposito.
i think it's a fair trade for a player who WILL score.
we still have lats and tanguay coming back too.
- does carbo bargain for the right Price before games?

Submitted by Corporate on Fri, 02/27/2009 - 17:26.
Higgy yes I would let go. He will probably score 700 goals elsewhere but yes I would let him go. Dandy is handy. So I would like to keep him. Pleky must stay at all costs. he is a work horse and even though he went through a tough period this year doesnt mean he isn't a good player. First real big slump in 3 years. not too bad..
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Koivu for Prime Minister...

Submitted by mrhabby on Fri, 02/27/2009 - 15:10.
yes, someone actually makes sense on here.

Submitted by Kaptain K on Fri, 02/27/2009 - 15:00.
Right now Lapierre and Pleks are playing very well.. So i dont think they will (or should move). Chip should go back down, keep the guys who have experiance and are playing well up for the final stretch. LEt Chippy get some playtime in Hamilton and maybe he'll be better next year.

Submitted by showey47 on Fri, 02/27/2009 - 15:00.
it could be pleky if its jokinen coming back.I honestly think if a center is moving it is either chipper or pleky.

Submitted by t1tan5 on Fri, 02/27/2009 - 14:58.
Or we could look at Plek's stock as being very high right now and thus very tradeable. We could maximize our return for Plek if we trade him now.

Submitted by craz11 on Fri, 02/27/2009 - 15:01.
Good point. Although when Plekanec is playing well, his bang-for-buck value is super high. But you have to give to recieve...
Submitted by Panther on Fri, 02/27/2009 - 14:53.
I think this just goes to show us that Bob has little going on in terms of something big ( at leaset for the center position). I'm sure he had no insight as to whether or not the Flyers were going to put this guy on waivers and that it was a last minute quick decision. If he had a real centerman on the hook or of interest, would he be concerned about depth at the ceter position.
I still think Bob's only real freedom comes during the free agency period. For the most part what we have is what we'll finish the year with. Moving Begin and even possibly Dandy is a simple matter of get something because there is absolutely no way either were back next year. Hate to loose Dandy though.Pretty versatile guy for this time of the year. As for next year, we can replace him and save 2M against the cap.

Submitted by doug on Fri, 02/27/2009 - 15:29.
We've made our big move. It was Schneider. Nothing will come, and nothing should. Only reason I would do a move is to avoid losing a UFA for nothing, and only guy who falls in that category for me is Komisarek. If he doesn't want to come back or might not you simply have to cash in now. Bob doesn't talk about that during season though so no moves coming in my view.

Submitted by mrhabby on Fri, 02/27/2009 - 15:03.
how do u know he did not have any insight on metropolit.

Submitted by Xtrahabsfan on Fri, 02/27/2009 - 14:50.
"WOW WITH ALL THESE HOCKEY PLAYERS I CAN REALLY JUGGLE THE LINES!"Carbo...

Submitted by rp25 on Fri, 02/27/2009 - 14:59.
WOW..With some players only putting out an effort some of the time I better try to put these players with guys that hustle all the time.The cult of Kovy continues, for now.

Submitted by showey47 on Fri, 02/27/2009 - 14:51.
no kidding,with all the experimenting carbo likes to do,he would of been a really popular chick in college.

Submitted by Will Longlade on Fri, 02/27/2009 - 14:47.
I think this move is a prelude to another deal that will see Chips moved. Some teams seem to be higher on him than the Habs.

Submitted by longbow on Fri, 02/27/2009 - 14:47.
YAWN !
However beautiful the strategy,you should occasionally look at the results. -- Winston Churchill
Submitted by krob1000 on Fri, 02/27/2009 - 14:45.
So...in the last two weeks we have picked up Schneider, Janik (maybe) and Metropolit....we have parted ways with Begin. We were already carrying too many players.....we were already considered asset rich and deep in expendable prospects and ripe for a larger deal.....I still expect that is the intention. What we have done is allowed ourselves to be real palyers in a bigger deal and still manage to have the depth to survive it ......if that fails we have addressed our two most basic needs and still have hope that Lang returns.....all of this has cost us....Steve Begin and a draft pick. Gainey is actually doing a masterful job as he won't be left holding the bag AND can still be a major player for an impact player. We are going to get Lats and Tanguay back soon. I am fine with the moves thus far and I expect more to follow. Anyone who isn't happy will be shipped out and all that does is cause addition by subtaraction.....we are a better team then 2 weeks ago and we still have room to improve.
Submitted by Hockey11 on Fri, 02/27/2009 - 14:59.
Masterful, the team was in a death spiral a week ago, masterful.........not a chance.

Submitted by mrhabby on Fri, 02/27/2009 - 15:05.
why don't you prepare your CV and send it to George G. and apply for BG's job.
Submitted by krob1000 on Fri, 02/27/2009 - 15:05.
2 weeks ago the wings were in a death spiral too, the bruins were also, the sharks lost a few in a row. As of yet...the onlyt eams that have improved becasue of moves made by their GM recently are the Ottawa Senators, Pittsburgh Penguins and us. Noone else has done anything .. we will get instantly better when we get Tanguay back,...then Lats. Masterful.....I'll stick to my description......as no gm in history has managed to successfully perfect the skill of ...injury prevention? The team will be fine...problems are being aired out and things will move forward....this team is closer than they were 2 weeks ago.

Submitted by TripleX on Fri, 02/27/2009 - 15:09.
Number one, the Pens and Sens both FIRED their coaches.
Number two, ARE YOU SERIOUS, the Sharks and Bruins are both on a pace to smash the 128 points the Habs scored in 77-78. They are COASTING, they have had the division wrapped up for months!
Guy Carbonneau is the new poster boy for the Peter Principle!

Submitted by JIMVINNY on Fri, 02/27/2009 - 15:17.
Okay, you've been posting a lot of silly things, but this takes the cake. First of all, the Habs had 129 points that year. Secondly, the record is 132 points, which was achieved by the Habs the previous season, 76-77. Thirdly, for the Bruins to even match that record, they'd have to win every single one of their remaining games, while San Jose would have to have a record of 19-2-1 to match that points total. Pull your head out of your nether regions, because neither of those two situations is going to occur.

Submitted by TripleX on Fri, 02/27/2009 - 14:49.
I guess we will see tonight, won't we? NHL currently ranks the Habs in 16th and falling, the Flyers are 7th and rising. The only current playoff team ranked below us are the truly woeful NYR! I sure hope we are better than we were two weeks ago!
Guy Carbonneau is the new poster boy for the Peter Principle!
Submitted by krob1000 on Fri, 02/27/2009 - 14:52.
huh? Actually the Flyers are 8th in the league and the Canadiens are....you ready for this...drum roll...9th.

Submitted by TripleX on Fri, 02/27/2009 - 14:55.
I am referring to power rankings, these take into consideration multitude of variables. It is a comparison of teams to each other. Simply going by the standings is very deceiving. The Habs had a very good start, which skews our position as well as of the NYR. We are actually worse, going by our recent play.
Guy Carbonneau is the new poster boy for the Peter Principle!

Submitted by Nahlsy on Fri, 02/27/2009 - 15:54.
Power Rankings are some clown who cheers for the Bruins and doesn't happen to know very much at all about hockey. He's a two bit reporter for a US publication that isn't good enough to do baseball or football so they stuck him with hockey basically.
Don't put any stock into anything that clown has to say, he's really tragically clueless about the sport.
Submitted by krob1000 on Fri, 02/27/2009 - 14:59.
lol power rankings are a joke.....i guess their player rankings are gospel too....better trade sydney crosby for mike green or steve mason then. WE are 8th they are 9th in the NHL "rankings" ...the TSN rankings are just that TSN rankings.

Submitted by TripleX on Fri, 02/27/2009 - 15:04.
They come from the official NHL.com site. I guess the league office is a complete joke! I bow to your obvious superior knowledge over the people that RUN the league.
Guy Carbonneau is the new poster boy for the Peter Principle!

Submitted by Nahlsy on Fri, 02/27/2009 - 15:55.
"I guess the league office is a complete joke!"
It's a shame you were being sarcastic, that is the most accurate statement ever made on these boards.

Submitted by habrez on Fri, 02/27/2009 - 15:20.
haha! gary bettmans power rankings?

Submitted by Fire_Laraque on Fri, 02/27/2009 - 15:18.
Nope, NHL.com is not the league. It's affiliated with the league. Look on the ice rink boards. They have publicity for NHL.COM.
"Kovi's BACK!!!!""
Submitted by krob1000 on Fri, 02/27/2009 - 15:08.
http://msn.foxsports.com/nhl/powerRankings , http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/powerranking,
http://www.tsn.ca/
yeah ...I'll accept your bowing...lol...you seriously think the NHL would rank it's teams?? How well would that go over?

Submitted by TripleX on Fri, 02/27/2009 - 15:10.
Seriously, try going to NHL.com. DUH!
Guy Carbonneau is the new poster boy for the Peter Principle!
Submitted by krob1000 on Fri, 02/27/2009 - 15:17.
uh...i'm there i don't see the power rankings lol...give it up...can you not read the part where it says tsn power rankings...http://www.nhl.com/
send me the link smart guy...the one that says the nhl is ranking teams other than by standings..please

Submitted by mrhabby on Fri, 02/27/2009 - 15:13.
power rankings..there like the laffs..funny. don't even pay them any attention.
Submitted by krob1000 on Fri, 02/27/2009 - 15:19.
no..no...they take into consideration a multitude of variables.....lol
Submitted by PRICEBERG (not verified) on Fri, 02/27/2009 - 14:42.
Another Stupid move by Bob the "Wonder GM". A few more of these moves & the Habs will breeze right throught to the finals...
The Habs have Bob the "Wonder Gm" & Carbo the "Wonder Coach"
The "Two Ronnies". That was a great show to watch. Unlike Carbo & Side Show Bob

Submitted by G-Man on Fri, 02/27/2009 - 15:19.
It's kinda sad that hockey experts like yourself aren't GMs in the NHL.
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Submitted by rp25 on Fri, 02/27/2009 - 15:10.
Hey pal..Do you really want to call BG stupid?Now that would be stupid, Stupid.
Submitted by PRICEBERG (not verified) on Fri, 02/27/2009 - 16:06.
I Said Stupid Move ! ! ! !
At what age did you learn to read rp25?

Submitted by rp25 on Fri, 02/27/2009 - 16:07.
And that wasn't sarcasm when you said "Wonder GM"?I guess I may have read between the lines a bit..

Submitted by Andrew Sharpe on Fri, 02/27/2009 - 14:41.
I understand Gainey is a good guy and Begin deserves to play but man oh man are we going to regret trading him if we get an injury in the playoffs. Depth is underrated in hockey.

Submitted by rp25 on Fri, 02/27/2009 - 14:51.
Hey eyeball..Did you notice we picked up 2 players and gave up 1 ?

Submitted by Andrew Sharpe on Fri, 02/27/2009 - 15:12.
I did. I don't equate depth with number of contracts, but that's just me.

Submitted by TripleX on Fri, 02/27/2009 - 14:45.
I agree, on the surface it makes no sense at all. Trading a valuable roster player with playoff experience for a career minor leaguer. Yes, it is a nice move for Begin, but this is a business. And the business is WINNING!
Guy Carbonneau is the new poster boy for the Peter Principle!

Submitted by TheDagger on Fri, 02/27/2009 - 14:44.
Hence Glen Metropolit. And as much as I loved Begin, Glen is an upgrade.

Submitted by Andrew Sharpe on Fri, 02/27/2009 - 14:48.
I will reserve judgement until I see the guy play in tris-coluers. But he better be good because this team is skilled up the Wazoo, what we need is energy bangers like Begin.

Submitted by TripleX on Fri, 02/27/2009 - 14:46.
It is a lateral move at best. Begin brings intangibles to the table that are not measured with stats. If Metropolit is so great, why did so many teams pass on the guy?
Guy Carbonneau is the new poster boy for the Peter Principle!

Submitted by TheDagger on Fri, 02/27/2009 - 14:48.
Agreed, if you look at the team this week compared to last week, the team isn't better or worse.

Submitted by Sakattack on Fri, 02/27/2009 - 14:38.
Just what we need - another small centre.
Other than being right handed, this is just an insurance pickup...

Submitted by jj on Fri, 02/27/2009 - 14:37.
right handed shot, decent faceoff %, better hands then beige, not a bad addition.

Submitted by Fire_Laraque on Fri, 02/27/2009 - 14:34.
I really don't get this pickup. The only thing I can see is right handed center. Appart from that...
"Kovi's BACK!!!!""

Submitted by Xtrahabsfan on Fri, 02/27/2009 - 14:30.
Band-Aid anyone?Here's how I see it at this point,if these moves win us a cup then Gainey and Carbo will be known as the all time KINGS OF THE HILL as concerning G.M.'S and Coaches,on the other hand if the Habs upchuck and fare poorly from this point on it will officially make them BUMS................

Submitted by Kaptain K on Fri, 02/27/2009 - 15:03.
Yeah if things work it means people are smart.. who woulda thought

Submitted by ifitwasnt4kovalev on Fri, 02/27/2009 - 14:28.
he can skate, hit....i like this....i was thinking laperriere! but ill take metropolit.........please do not compare him to begin.....he might not have a heart like begin....but he is a better player
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