Birthday boy meets the press
posted by Mike Boone at 15h01 EST on Mar 18
Were there any great revelations? Not really.
Carbonneau recalled that after the team flight from Dallas landed, he had picked up his dogs, which were boarded at a vet's, and was driving home when he got a phone call from Bob Gainey asking to meet at 4 o'clock.
By 4:10, Carbo was the ex-coach of the Montreal Canadiens.
He was gobsmacked by the dismissal. Carbonneau said he thought the team had turned the corner and was primed for a strong finish to the season and a "surprise" in the playoffs.
That still might happen. But asked to comment on the likelihood of a Canadiens surge, given the team's recent performances, Carbonneau said he hadn't watched a game since he was fired.
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The three most important elements in a coach's farewell are location, location, location.
Sitting at the familiar coach's postgame table in the Bell Centre, Guy Carbonneau – who's on the payroll for three more years – wasn't going to rip the Canadiens' organization.
He thanked the Gillett family. He thanked team president Pierre Boivin. He thanked the players and the fans.
Carbo also thanked the old friend who had given him a chance to coach the team and has succeeded him behind the bench.
There were emotional moments. Carbonneau choked up as he talked about this being "the first time I've been fired ... it's new to me."
But in describing himself as a "pretty positive person", Carbonneau said the sun continues to rise every morning.
Life goes on.
If there was bitterness – and there has to be – Carbo kept it to himself.
He was a class act when he coached the Canadiens. In contrast to the carping we've heard from the players about his failings as a communicator, Carbonneau had not trouble communicating with Montreal media.
He even claimed to have enjoyed the daily parry and thrust with the sea of notebooks, microphones and cameras that engulf the coach of the Montreal Canadiens on a daily basis.
One intriguing note: Toward the end of the press conference, in discussing the communication issue, Carbonneau said "one day the truth will come out."
Maybe on his 50th.
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Submitted by G-Man on Thu, 03/19/2009 - 05:43.
From Carbo's press conference:Carbonneau said. 'With the 100th anniversary, it even put a little bit more emphasis on winning, and winning quickly, but as an athlete, as a coach, as an organization, that’s the kind of pressure that you want to have.'
Not these country club Habs. Pressure? Brisebois mentioned before Tuesday's game that the 100th anniversary added pressure to win, and that made it difficult.
Carbo was stuck with a bunch of losers that take the easy way out.
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Submitted by habsperspective on Thu, 03/19/2009 - 04:53.
Does anyone, or has anyone speculated as to who the "bad apples" are in this bunch, that are supposedly responsible for the demise of this entire club, season, and possibly 5 year rebuilding plan, that could essentially derail this organization for decades to come?
I can't possibly see it as being Kovalev, the 4 games he missed, this team had no skill, and as ive argued a billion times, nobody, and i mean nobody could ever be expected to be as good as kovalev has been in his tenure on this team, for a straight up trade for Jozef Balez, and anyone who thinks otherwise does not recognize the value this organization received from that trade, especially last season.
So who the hell are the bad apples?
The Euro's ? Laraque? O'Byrne? Higgins? The Kostytsins? Harmlik?
It doesnt make sense, maybe the bad apple was the false ego January's all star ceremony's left on this unproven team.
Maybe it was all star Komi who lost his shoulder to Lucic.
Maybe it was the fact that our captain felt displaced from not making the all star roster, and Kovalev did, and graduated MVP.
Maybe it was the C that Kovy temporarily received in Koivu's absences.
Maybe it was mostly to injuries, and for the most part everyone had an extensive absence at some point.
Maybe it was Price's and gang's photo's and articles of partying.
Maybe it was Ted Koppel, the media!!!
Or maybe its easy to make Carbo falsely look like a victim in this situation cause the team hasnt responded since the end of his tenure, regardless of his abilities.
Submitted by Steven on Thu, 03/19/2009 - 08:56.
Steven L.
Losing Lang is one of the primary reasons for the downfall. He had the respect of the Europeans AND the North Americans on the team and was a quiet leader by example
Kovi is not the problem....not having the right players to play with him is
Price is not the problem....not giving him time to develop properly is
100 year ann. pressure is not the problem....quite the opposite it should be the ultimate motivator
BG should have picked up a gritty veteran leader like Guerin at the trading deadline. The vast amount of injuries is another major problem, but teams like Washington had the coaching, character and leadership to win games anyways.
Did Carbo have to go? Yes the team needed something to be done to try to right the sinking ship
Will the Habs make the playoffs?... Maybe but there are several lower tier teams like Ottawa and Toronto who have as a remaining season goal to make sure they don't
Will they be Cup contenders?....no they do not have the talent or the grit to be contenders this year
Submitted by Cape Breton on Thu, 03/19/2009 - 07:04.
Just maybe, Carbo was not a good coach. It is possible, you know.
Submitted by Habs-Fan-In-KY on Thu, 03/19/2009 - 01:36.
Well, I know why the team get sick all the time.............the reporters must give it to the,. Have you ever heard some coughing and hacking in all of your life? I mean it was worse than the waiting room at a doctor's office!!
You can even hear the wrappers of the cough drops being opened during the interview....geez press, stay the hell away from them if you are sick!
Any ways, Guy is a great man and a class act. He will coach again and make us pay for it I am sure!
Submitted by Barts on Wed, 03/18/2009 - 23:53.
Guy, Guy, Guy.... a good man, a firing this organization will regret. Again.
Submitted by Bugs on Wed, 03/18/2009 - 23:29.
Little thing before I call it March 18th, 2009,
I could do without hearing the word "communication" for a while. Feels like a cheezy American Primary catchword, designed to dupe in ignorant voters. "Communication is Key!"
Bullspit. Just win a bloody game or I'll communicate my keys into the side of your cars, ya bastiches.
Peace Out
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Submitted by smiler2729 on Wed, 03/18/2009 - 23:34.
I dunno Johnny Dangerously but isn't it spelled 'bastages'?
Submitted by Bugs on Thu, 03/19/2009 - 10:54.
Don't know. Wimpy-lookin movie; never saw it. Get with the times. Move outta the eighties; it's dusty as hell.
I refer to Lobo. The greatest fraggin bastich of all.
Peace Out
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Submitted by G-Man on Thu, 03/19/2009 - 05:45.
Don't be a fargin' ice hole.:)
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Submitted by smiler2729 on Wed, 03/18/2009 - 23:24.
I wanted Carbo to succeed. And I don't blame Gainey cuz the team looks great on paper. It's the players, once the housecleaning takes place in the summer, maybe Carbo should get re-hired... probably not. Maybe they hire some Chinese genius.
Submitted by craz11 on Thu, 03/19/2009 - 00:35.
"the team looks great on paper"?
What kind of paper? Toilet paper?
Submitted by Da Hema on Thu, 03/19/2009 - 01:07.
:-)
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"There is infinite hope--but not for us."
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Submitted by WindsorHab-10 on Wed, 03/18/2009 - 23:14.
Couldn't help but feel sorry for Guy.
Submitted by vic on Wed, 03/18/2009 - 23:04.
the coach killer is still on the team
Submitted by 1010 on Wed, 03/18/2009 - 22:40.
He's still part of the Habs family and the whole situation leaves me kinda sad. Nice to hear him talk about his problems in communicating with the players. You get the impression that he learned a lot from all this. He'll be back. I hope it's in this greatest of all organizations.
GO HABS...
Submitted by Willy the bum on Wed, 03/18/2009 - 22:40.
Maybe on Guy's 50th, the organization should get him back; I don't care what position or title they give to him, 'cause his passion is always there with the Habs.
I don't think he deserved to get fired and maybe instead give him like a temporary season-off to reorganizing his coaching methods.
Whatever, what happened happens, and hopefully we'll hear more of Carbo soon.
For Mr. Carbonneau, happy birthday and thanks for the great three years!
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Submitted by DOUBLE_D (not verified) on Thu, 03/19/2009 - 08:01.
Guy is here for another 3 yrs anyway. He just signed a 3 yr contract....
Submitted by jjonahjameson on Wed, 03/18/2009 - 21:56.
Whats wrong with giving Guy a break and bringing him back next year with Don Lever as his assistant.
Gainey can clear out the room and start fresh next year with the kids.
On paper Carbo is still the ideal candidate for many reasons. His track record is also pretty damn good for a guy everyone claims is lost.
Finally you will never find another coach more dedicated to this organization then Guy. Talented players brings out the best coaches!!
Submitted by HabsFanInEdmonton on Wed, 03/18/2009 - 22:45.
Very telling his comments about being a good communicator. So he said he had no problems communicating with journalists. Did anyone follow those post game pressers on RDS? More often than not, after a loss, he was furious, seething, no eye contact, very few, terse words...and more than a few times, lately, he just shrugged and said 'I give up, I don't know." Is that how he communicated to players? That seemed to be what Laraque said....Begin said.....who knows who else ?
Yah, that's a great communicator. When you're the head coach and you give up - you just lost the team.
Besides, journalists aren't going to win you games. Be a terrible interview and a better mentor to your players. That would have been better. See Parcells....Tortorella....Burke....Belicheck....oh yeah, they win championships. Hmmm......
In Edmonton, MacT is great with the media. So what? Who cares? It's the players that matter, not RDS or La Presse or Gazette.
Until the new Habs coach can understand that, it'll be same ol' same ol'.
Submitted by DOUBLE_D (not verified) on Thu, 03/19/2009 - 08:05.
Tortorella & Burke not championships one "CHAMPIONSHIP" each
Submitted by Kwanzaa.. on Thu, 03/19/2009 - 01:21.
One thing that Guy carbonneau doesn't do is to give up.
Submitted by dpthehabsfan on Wed, 03/18/2009 - 21:28.
Remember when the crowd at the Forum used to yell; "Guy! Guy! Guy!"? And this was long after Lafleur retired.
There was a reason for that, because Carbonneau wasn't Lafleur, but he gave everything he had to the Habs. Every night. Blocking shots...ghosting the best in the league.... scoring goals when it counted....No mistake he was captain. Go look it up on hockeydb.com, Carbo had the same number of points in '93-94 as Kovalev has now in '08-'09. And Carbo was a "defensive" player!
So, if Carbo had communication problems with his players, maybe its because the players he was trying to communicate with just didn't want to understand what it takes to win.
Submitted by EricInStL on Wed, 03/18/2009 - 21:58.
Modern hockey players have feelings and can decide where to play. They are not pawns in a game controlled by coaches and GMs in the 70s and 80s. Now you have to be a friend, a psychologist and a tough guy. Unfortnately, Guy forgot that. Why because he never coached these types of players.
Don Lever will be better.
Submitted by Da Hema on Wed, 03/18/2009 - 21:50.
Nicely articulated. You cannot teach people if they are unwilling to listen or too dense to understand.
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"There is infinite hope--but not for us."
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Submitted by slapshot777 on Wed, 03/18/2009 - 21:27.
I really don't think that Gainey wanted to fire Carbonneau, but that decision came from a higher power than Gainey. I know everyone is going to blame Gainey, just like the same people on here who were blaming Carbonneau. There is no way a person can win. Gainey is trying to just make the playoffs and make a few bucks for the Gillett family and just retool the team in the summer. Gainey, by coaching the team and I say he alreay knows but will definately weed out the bad apples and we will see a much improved and better team than what we are seeing now. Getting rid of Gainey, will only set this team back, as much as people want to lay blame, Gainey did more good for this team than bad and we will see it in years to come, but people are so damn impatient. They don't want to wait and what happens when results are not immediate, fire everybody. That's always an intelligent and sane answer.
Submitted by RH on Wed, 03/18/2009 - 21:22.
Carbonneau can only get better as a head coach, should he choose to continue down that route, because of the valuable experience he has picked up coaching in Montreal. 124 wins over three years is a solid accomplishment for someone with no coaching experience, prior to his hiring.
Submitted by showey47 on Wed, 03/18/2009 - 21:28.
for carbo to become a better coach,he is going to have to learn to change his ways like julien did in boston.I think alot of carbo's flaws as a coach were hidden by our powerplay last year.
Submitted by HabsFan90 on Wed, 03/18/2009 - 20:44.
I still stand by my statement I made when he got fired.. it's going to come back and bite Gainey. He should've never fired Carbo.. why is it always the coach's fault? The players were being babies and complaining about him. Do your job the best you can. You see the Rangers how they're playing? Tortorella isn't all goody two shoes to them. He's an ***. But I mean, in a good way. He's competitive and likes to work hard to make his team better. You think all of the players like him? Hell, he crapped all over Avery when he was with TSN, now look at him. Avery's doing his job, Torts is successful so far. That's what Carbo was.. he said what he felt. If the players wanted to act out on him, well they certainly showed it. Unfortunately if they don't make the playoffs or do poorly in the playoffs, all the heads will turn to Gainey. If anything, fire Carbo at the end of the season or playoffs, not with like less than 20 games left. It was a stupid move. Oh well. Good luck to Carbo in everything he does. He'll be appreciated more somewhere else soon enough.
Submitted by vanejorg on Wed, 03/18/2009 - 19:57.
I am tired of the coach being fired, when it is clearly the players that should be....FIRED!!!!!! Les Canadiens have done even worse since Guy Carbonneau has been gone. I am a proponent of contracts which are performance based. Contracts shoud have a clause which would read: IF YOU DECIDE NOT TO PLAY TO THE BEST OF YOUR ABILITY THEN YOU WILL BE BANISHED TO THE MINORS AND YOUR PAY REDUCED TO $30 000 PER YEAR!...but of course the player's union would never allow this. The NHL should get rid of that organization....I bet the players would play much better then!! Both Guy Carbonneau and Bob Gainey were great players and great managers of the game. GC does not deserve this!! If the team keeps losing and they don't make the play-offs...Bob Gainey won't deserve what happens to him either. However, if he survives he better FIRE all these dumb, old, overpaid players in the summer!! Don't let the door hit your backsides on the way out!!
Submitted by ProHabs on Wed, 03/18/2009 - 18:35.
I am not sure what the players issue is with Carbo not communicating with them. If you are benched or scratched from the lineup, do you really need Carbo to come up to you and tell you "your play sucks". Would that have made the players feel better.
Submitted by rut1212 on Wed, 03/18/2009 - 19:22.
Steve Bégin's play did not suck.
Submitted by Qais on Wed, 03/18/2009 - 20:52.
Yes Steve Begin's play sucked.
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Submitted by habitual on Wed, 03/18/2009 - 23:36.
You need to adjust your TV settings. Begin played well when he was in the line up. Moot point given that he is gone but he did and would have continued to add value, grit and heart.
Submitted by G-Man on Thu, 03/19/2009 - 05:50.
Too old and beaten up to do it every night. Injury prone. Young bucks like Stewart taking his place.
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Submitted by Brian14 on Wed, 03/18/2009 - 18:31.
I have a feeling Carbonneau's hands were tied when it came to dealing with "certain" players. Remember when Laraque whined to the media about not playing enough? Carbo said his door is always open and he should be talking to him instead of the media. Laraque draws into the line-up the very next game and Carbo says it wasn't because he complained, it was because he was scheduled to dress that game. Carbo was the puppet and someone was pulling the strings. The puppet's gone and nothing has changed, they're still inconsistant from one period to the next. Communication was'nt the problem. Happy Birthday Guy! I hear Brent Sutter wants out of New Jersey. Could be a good fit.
Submitted by showey47 on Wed, 03/18/2009 - 19:05.
sutter was contemplating retirement after this season,not moving on to another team.
Submitted by habs12345 on Wed, 03/18/2009 - 19:00.
what are you smoking brent sutter isnt going anywher
Submitted by ProHabs on Wed, 03/18/2009 - 18:21.
Well the team decided to side with a group of players that have no heart and that won't be around next year instead of building some stability and siding with a coach that loved the Habs. The players got the coach fired and now aren't even showing Bob any respect by playing hard. What a bunch of winners we have on the ice.
Submitted by Da Hema on Wed, 03/18/2009 - 18:15.
I want to thank Guy for all that he did for this organisation as a player and as a coach. What I remember most about Guy as a player was his superlative will, and how he could shut down any opponent's main scorers. I hope the team will utilise his intelligence and desire outside a coaching capacity. I'll bet Guy would selflessly contribute. He always did.
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Submitted by gillis on Wed, 03/18/2009 - 18:13.
I just realised why the Habs are losing. It's because Carbo auctioned off his lucky tie this summer. Why would someone get rid of something that is proven to be lucky what a fool. He deserved to be fired for the reason alone.
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Submitted by Habitant in Surrey on Wed, 03/18/2009 - 17:58.
...its hard to believe Carbo can't 'identify' the WHY ...pussy-footing got him and the Team no-where
Habitant means PASSIONATE HOCKEY
http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=423049
Submitted by Chris on Wed, 03/18/2009 - 17:43.
I have faith that Carbonneau will be back somewhere in the NHL, perhaps even in Montreal in an assistant GM type position. He is on contract for another 3 years. He's far too bright of a guy to stay out of it for long.
Submitted by fun police on Wed, 03/18/2009 - 17:04.
the french media tried to get carbo to throw gainey and koivu under the bus. red's comment to the french journalist who took over the press conference by giving his opinion instead of asking questions was hilarious.
Submitted by Mike Boone on Wed, 03/18/2009 - 17:54.
That was Ron Fournier. What a ***!
Submitted by Da Hema on Wed, 03/18/2009 - 17:55.
Boone: We will be forced to wash out that potty mouth with soap if you do not shape up young man!
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"There is infinite hope--but not for us."
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Submitted by Chorske on Wed, 03/18/2009 - 18:01.
All bets are off when it comes CKAC.
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Submitted by nick on Wed, 03/18/2009 - 17:27.
I really wish you would have told us that little comment was in the last few minutes of the 49 minute audio clip. LOL.
Submitted by forskis on Wed, 03/18/2009 - 17:25.
Sorry...what did Red say? Must have been snarky...
Submitted by ice_queen on Wed, 03/18/2009 - 18:04.
Something along the lines of "is there room beside you Guy? ... He seems to be taking over the press conference. Can we get a chair up there?" (not a direct quote).
Submitted by ManApart on Wed, 03/18/2009 - 17:22.
I'd like to throw most of the french media under the bus. Bunch of classless,racist, fools who like to hurt people and have little regard for the truth. With great exception to Denis Cassavant and a few others. Good for Carbo for not biting and good for Red.
Submitted by TitoS74 on Wed, 03/18/2009 - 18:21.
Oh man, you have no idea. I went to university with the french people, and studied in political science with them. The strikes, the general assemblies, and the nonsense these people pulled were just outrageous. Waste of time, really.
Submitted by davelies on Wed, 03/18/2009 - 18:40.
You guys are the racists. Incredibly ignorant comments...
Submitted by ManApart on Wed, 03/18/2009 - 21:11.
Don't get why I'm racist. My mother's side of the family is French. I'm just saying that many of the french media go too far with the language issue and I'm sick of it. We know this is Quebec!! The Habs do not belong to only the French born people. Hockey is a universal language. Stop with the language BS already. Some of these guys have been relentless on Koivu, for years. I am convinced the majority of that is because he has the C, and does not speak french. If that's not racist, then I don't know what is.
Submitted by showey47 on Wed, 03/18/2009 - 21:45.
you are correct about koivu and how the french media has treated him.I think the french media wants to run him out of town before he surpasses jean beliveau as the longest serving captain in habs history.
Submitted by Bugs on Wed, 03/18/2009 - 21:37.
You know what, though? The English media are perfect. Always perfect. Not like the French. Because of one guy, one day, ALL the French media are that way. And none of the English media are. Because the English media is perfect and always does things right.
That you happen to BE English has NO influence on that at all.
French media evil. English media knows what's best, all the time.
That about it?
Peace Out
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Submitted by ManApart on Wed, 03/18/2009 - 22:27.
That's not my position Bugs. English media are not perfect in other ways, at times. It is not one guy,one day. He just triggered my written criticism of the French media (not all) for some of their behavior regarding language issues, for years. They always have to look at everything from a language viewpoint. Is he French, how many French, how is he regarding French, is it a slight to the French. They just don't stop with that garbage. It has nothing to do with winning. Their treatment of Koivu, and their recent reaction to Lever are just a few examples.
Submitted by ManApart on Wed, 03/18/2009 - 22:33.
I love the French people! They are great. I just don't like a number of the French media, who get away from the topics of hockey and winning.
Submitted by Bugs on Wed, 03/18/2009 - 23:22.
Ron Fournier says that he had on very good sources that Koivu was the bad apple. = French media garbage.
Oops. Tony Marinaro just said it on 110%. = Brilliant English reporting wherewithal.
The double standard is tiresome. I love this blog. I'm French through and through so these recurring generalizations from folks what probably never READ the dang things since it's not in their language are somehow uniquely capable of analysing their reporting skills are tiresome.
French media is this way; English media is that way? No.
THIS guy is this way and THAT guy is that way.
Has nothing to do with English or French; it only serves the purpose of he or she who wants to anchor his or her argument in a GROSS generalization that it be English or French.
Peace Out
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Submitted by Bugs on Wed, 03/18/2009 - 17:09.
It's the French media. Oh, it's the French media. When in doubt, the French media. Gotta be the French media. Only explanation is the French media. Anything bad is the French media. Everything good is not the French media. Beware the French media. French media, French media, French media.
Peace Out
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Lord Bugs Potter, esq. Earl of Fluppitburg, Baron of Fleenshire County and Knight of the Flannel Republic.
Submitted by Niflster on Wed, 03/18/2009 - 23:28.
No no no. You got it all wrong!
When in doubt you have to take steps.
1) Al-Qaeda.
2) If not #1 then The Economy.
3) If not #1 or #2 or both, then French Media.
Hope that helps.
Submitted by habsfan0 on Wed, 03/18/2009 - 18:28.
Yes,but what about the French media?
Submitted by Chorske on Thu, 03/19/2009 - 02:07.
NO ONE EXPECTS THE FRENCH MEDIA!!
Their chief weapon is surprise! Surpise and fear... their TWO chief weapons are... oh never mind
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Submitted by nick on Wed, 03/18/2009 - 17:03.
From here until the end of the season Montreal is going to be scratching there heads, working on conspiracy theories for the truth and what it means :P
The truth is, according to some, actions of some individuals inside the locker room are causing a ruccus. These actions, may or may not have anything to do with how the Habs are playing.
But seriously, don't you think that if this was such a concern or that big of a deal we would have seen player X in the press box in an attempt to right the situation? Or is it a case of too many players having a bad attitude? In that case they can't do much about it. But i mean if theres that many players with bad attitudes on the team... perhaps they should work 10$/hr job for awhile. Have the hot dog vendors and players swap jobs/salaries for the night. Put things into perspective.
Submitted by Habbu on Wed, 03/18/2009 - 17:00.
Carbo knew who his enemies were in the room, & you can bet Gainey knows too. We'll know too; once they sign elsewhere this summer.
Submitted by fun police on Wed, 03/18/2009 - 16:55.
still glad carbo is gone. gainey manages the bench much better. the mess left behind by carbo will take a few more games, but the habs will make the playoffs.
Submitted by Wops on Wed, 03/18/2009 - 16:33.
Wish that he gets back next season !!! loll!
I was a big fan of GC!
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Submitted by j2c on Wed, 03/18/2009 - 19:01.
I was also a fan of GC, and I think I'm among the few that think he shouldn't have been fired, because as we can see now it was obviously the players that have no heart not the ex-coach GC.
Submitted by Bugs on Wed, 03/18/2009 - 17:03.
It was for Cristobal Huet too.
CH is also for "Cautious Hab," "Clueless about Hockey," "Casual Hanger-oner," "Can't Happen-Higgy," "Clearly Hindered," "Chewing Hickory," and the ever-faithful "Can Him!" Sure my betters can come up with a slew of betters. I'd bet on it.
Not sure CH only stands for that, mate. Or was it just a little thing and I'm goin overboard?
Peace Out
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Submitted by The Cat on Wed, 03/18/2009 - 17:13.
Im partial to Cat House ^_^
Submitted by gillis on Wed, 03/18/2009 - 17:08.
Im pretty sure CH stands for "Centre Hice"
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Submitted by Propwash on Wed, 03/18/2009 - 17:48.
CH = Crappy Hangover....
Losers Even After Forty one Seasons
Submitted by Chorske on Wed, 03/18/2009 - 16:32.
Hoo boy. Carbo quote, clipped from RDS:
«C’est à Bob Gainey et à l’organisation de trouver s’il y a des pommes pourries dans le vestiaire. Avec plusieurs de joueurs autonomes à la fin de la saison, ce sera à l’organisation de s’en débarrasser si cela existe.»
Literal translation: it's up to BG and the organization to find out whether there are bad apples in the dressing room. With many guys becoming free agents at the end of the season, it's up to the organization to get rid of them- if they exist.
Real translation: there is at least one bad apple among the soon-to-be-free-agents.
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Submitted by ManApart on Wed, 03/18/2009 - 16:43.
One great thing Gainey has done, was not get strapped down by huge contracts, for long terms, that we can't get rid of and that impedes his ability to shape the club. Many Gms have not been so wise. I am very happy we can keep our core young guys and flush the rest down the toilet. We can resign a few key UFA's and really have the freedom to do some drastic reshaping if need be. Many other teams, who suck, have their hands tied.
Submitted by Chorske on Wed, 03/18/2009 - 16:50.
I'm inclined to agree. I don't buy the "too many free agents as distraction" theory. The whole discussion around this issue has been hopelessly circular: if a guy in the last year of his contract plays well, its because he's playing for a new contract; if he plays poorly, it's because he's distracted by having to play for a new contract.
Way I see it, as professional athletes, these guys should be doing what they're told to do, regardless of where they're at with their contracts. But maybe that's naive.
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Il faut commencer avec le travail, et finir avec le talent. -BG
Submitted by ManApart on Wed, 03/18/2009 - 17:13.
I know what you mean. The distraction theory is way overused. I always thought it was the opposite. I hated when a guy had a career year just when he was up for contract talks. Then he would get another big deal and go back to doing nothing. Theodore and Samsonov last year, Blake and Briere the year before. There are many others.
If anyone has played sports in any serious capacity, they would know that the game is the one place to get "away" from the distractions of the world. The place to "escape" the real world. I'm mad at my coach, so am distracted during the game and forget to backcheck, or I'm worried about my financial security, so can't focus enough to complete that pass, is rediculous and is floated out there by Media types who've never played competitive sports.
Submitted by Trots on Wed, 03/18/2009 - 17:26.
Both you and Chorske have it nailed. There is little doubt in my mind that there is a schism in the dressing roombewteen Koivu and Kovalev - this might explain why Koivu's contract is still in the drawer. If Kovy leaves, Koivu signs. If he doesn't leave, Koivu will be gone. One of these two guys is the bad apple that Carbo refers to.
i think Bob is right not to sign any of these RFA's/UFA's until he knows who's going and who's staying. This also gives him added flexibility come July 1st.
Submitted by Chorske on Wed, 03/18/2009 - 17:37.
Well, Carbo doesn't name names, but if there is a bad apple, it's hard to imagine that it isn't one of those two. Does anyone else in that room have the kind of stature that would allow them to influence others? Or... is it Higgins and his partying ways? Who knows. I don't want to speculate, cos I'm not in that room and (as Boone would put it, haha) I don't have access, but something is chemically wrong with this team. The bad apple theory is as good as any.
Of course, Carbo could just be farting in the elevator just as he gets to his floor. Let's not forget that.
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Il faut commencer avec le travail, et finir avec le talent. -BG
Submitted by ManApart on Wed, 03/18/2009 - 17:29.
Save money for Kovalchuk!!! Summer 2010.
Submitted by mrhabby on Wed, 03/18/2009 - 16:50.
flyers, rangers, bruins, caps ,ducks to name a few.
Submitted by Bugs on Wed, 03/18/2009 - 16:32.
Got the integral. Perused it. Broke it down into Asimov's symbolic logic that "prunes away all sorts of clogging deadwood and that clutters up human language." The ultimate theme. The message.
Applied here gives us, roughly,
"Not saying it was the players' fault.., but it was the players' fault."
After "perusement", mind; not analysis. Stay tuned...
Peace Out
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Lord Bugs Potter, esq. Earl of Fluppitburg, Baron of Fleenshire County and Knight of the Flannel Republic.
Submitted by mrhabby on Wed, 03/18/2009 - 16:34.
your back..
Submitted by Bugs on Wed, 03/18/2009 - 16:38.
What about it? You watchin it?
You watchin my back, Mr.?
Yee-ah.
Peace Out
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Lord Bugs Potter, esq. Earl of Fluppitburg, Baron of Fleenshire County and Knight of the Flannel Republic.
Submitted by shuttle-lemaire... on Wed, 03/18/2009 - 16:55.
Good to see you're back Lord bugs...we was worried 'bout ya me Lord !
Submitted by Bugs on Wed, 03/18/2009 - 17:06.
Worried?
Even lords gotta take care'o'some biness sometimes; you can dig it.
But thanks, Jack. 'Preciate it.
Peace Out
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Lord Bugs Potter, esq. Earl of Fluppitburg, Baron of Fleenshire County and Knight of the Flannel Republic.
Submitted by mrhabby on Wed, 03/18/2009 - 16:45.
its cool bugs...its cool.
missed your sarcasssssssssm.
Submitted by Bugs on Wed, 03/18/2009 - 16:55.
Haven't used any yet.
First was symbolic logic. Second was an absurd riff on the casuality of how "your back" could be responded to instead of the more obvious "you're back" which is surely what you meant.
My sarcasm, however, leans more towards the insidious. Should recognize it when you see it.
Moowah-ha-ha...
Peace Out
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Lord Bugs Potter, esq. Earl of Fluppitburg, Baron of Fleenshire County and Knight of the Flannel Republic.
Submitted by mrhabby on Wed, 03/18/2009 - 16:56.
lol..smart ***.
Submitted by Chorske on Wed, 03/18/2009 - 16:33.
Agree with this cursory analysis. We require more input. Probably won't get it until long after the Habs are golfing.
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Il faut commencer avec le travail, et finir avec le talent. -BG
Submitted by Bugs on Wed, 03/18/2009 - 16:37.
Moé, j'ai l'talent. M'a m'occuper de c'partie-là .
C't'Ã eux-autres d'amener le travail, les clisses de mosus!.
Peace Out
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Lord Bugs Potter, esq. Earl of Fluppitburg, Baron of Fleenshire County and Knight of the Flannel Republic.
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