Pacioretty farmed; Sergei with Plek, AK46

posted by Dave Stubbs at 12h37 EST on Mar 23


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AUDIO:  • Gainey  • Komisarek  • Higgins

Presumably because of the callup of Sergei Kostitsyn, the Canadiens today farmed Max Pacioretty back to the AHL Hamilton Bulldogs.

They could have kept him up, but clearly he'll get more ice time in Hamilton.

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Lines at practice this morning:

Kovalev - Koivu - Tanguay
A. Kostitsyn - Plekanec - S. Kostitsyn
Latendresse - Lapierre - Kostopoulos
Higgins - Metropolit - Dandenault

Extras: Laraque, Stewart, D'Agostini

• No goaltending decision for Tuesday's game vs. Atlanta before tomorrow morning.




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How many times this year has Montreal scored 4 goals and still lost the game? These goalies do not belong in this league.

sYstem21's picture
Unless yr name is Marty Brodeur or Pat Roy, or Luongo, and your capable of standing on yr head for 82 games in a row; 40+ SHOTS ALLOWED EVERY SINGLE GAME, DAY IN AND DAY OUT is a ridiculous request and no goaly in the league(fore mentioned exceptions aside) should be held to blame for the COMPLETE and UTTER lack of production by their Defense that allowed it. Price and Halak are not to blame, they let in softies here and there...sure, every goaly does, the truth is this team is a mess from the blue line out not the goal line. The only thing our goalies need is a new goal coach, Roland Melanson is currently and will continue to destroy Price's style. Go back to the french media blogs and message boards and find another bandwagon to jump on with the rest of the trolls... ------------------------ Calgary Flames: Canada's 1# Hope to Bring Stanley Home in '09! Vive La Sainte-Flanelle!

I have always thought that a team's momentum lies with the last line of defence. The goalies. The players can play as well as humanly possible, but when they look back and see a goalie time after time, game after game , let in soft goals it definitely has to deflate their egos and hence their abilities to play at a high level.Just look at their faces against T.O. when Halak let in those soft goals. If any one of you were a hab player wouldn't you be saying to yourself by now--"what's the use". There is too much pressure in this city to let young guys shoulder the burden alone. A veteran is needed to, if nothing else, just for support. what have we got now? 2 kids who are absolutely terrified with the pressures on them and a team who charges out (usually) every game and then just descends into depression and anger (hence the bad penalties) as these other team"s goalies stop shot after shot and then a harmless shot goes in against. For this reason, and this reason alone, the G.M. has to lose his job this year. This is a mistake of epic proportions. I'm sure there are a lot of other things wrong but a good coach should address them (like how come Alex Kovalev doesn't sweat):) thanks for letting me vent a bit.

habsguy's picture
Do you ever think the goalies look at the players and think 44 f@#$ shots again..."whats the use"

Yes, but not too often in the first period. I ask you one thing--what happened to Price in the playoffs last year?

mrhabby's picture
much the same thing if i recall...many shots and way to much traffic down low.

do you guys think that a lot of players will be gone next year?

mrhabby's picture
depends.if make playoffs some guys like saku/kovy could still be back. if no playoffs some players will be gone for sure. i can see saku/ kovy gone and host of others. i would like to see a new face on the franchise who that is i have no idea.

Big Ralph's picture
Sell the team.....? I say we put names in a shoebox and raffle their hasses off! I heard Higgins talk about public banter - FANs really need a new hobby. Hockey is a great sport, but lets be civil and let these guys eat in peace. Carbo got canned because he could not communicate effectively with the players. It may be the comments and/or statements he was making had litle intrigue. Not many kids wind up with 90+ averages in school if their teachers do not communicate well. Na-na-na-nah, hey heyyye, good bye....

Nahlsy's picture
Food for thought and little more... Under Gainey, each goalie has 3 decisions. Price is 1-0-2 and Halak is 0-3-0 making Gainey's record with the club 1-3-2 in his 6 games behind the bench, starting in Edmonton, earlier this month. They've been pretty much obliterated in shots in each of those games of course and the team as a whole hasn't done much of anything save for Lappy and Lats in the past 2 games.

jimhasbeen's picture
fearless prediction: 4 point night for serge tits tomorrow........in a 7-4 loss to the thrash

I love it!

Good news and bad news...I'll be at the Bell for the last time before I move back to N.S this Saturday...good news I'm behind the bench...with my amazing whisper technology ...I'll let you all know if I hear anything lol

Fire_Laraque's picture
Nice, do you also have a yelling technology to talk to Gainey? Koivu: Communication wasn't his strong point. Carbo: I was doing press conferences everyday since I was hired as head coach. You thought I had communications problems? To have a communication, you need two people. If the other one is not listening..

Harditya_CareyPrice's picture
HURRICANES SAVE OUR AS* IN OVERTIME *** THEY WON 3-2..BUT PANTHERS AND HABS ARE NOW TIED FOR 8TH WITH 81 POINTS 808s & Heartbreak is a good album - especially made for Habs fans, thanks Kanye West

Your right they are tied in points, but the Habs are still in 8th because they have 36 wins on the season so far and Panthers have 35. We are still hanging on, but only by the skin of our teeth. Hope they can win Tuesday and not lay another egg. Habs can't expect the rest of the league to continue helping them keep the playoff drive alive. The Panthers are going to win a few games here and there eventually.

Harditya_CareyPrice's picture
yeah man 808s & Heartbreak is a good album - especially made for Habs fans, thanks Kanye West

ifitwasnt4kovalev's picture
Ray whitney scores....carolina wins in overtime

ifitwasnt4kovalev's picture

ifitwasnt4kovalev's picture
i love latendresse, unlike higgins the big mouth that he is....that kid is cocky, he needs to get traded asap, i think koivu got to his head or something.. 2 comments.....latendresse after saturdays game (im ashamed, families and fans coming to see this game, expensive tickets purchased to come watch us play so poorly....some of those fans dont even have good salaries and they still come and watch us) the other comment (higgins....the same people that booed us tonight are the same people that will be honking their horns when we win....)...kid who the ****???? do you think you are.....no *** its the same fans that will be honking their horns and booing you...they pay for your salary....a salary that you clearly dont deserve......the kid talks like he won 2 stanley cups....higgins should think about taking a quick shower and heading home after the games...let koivu face the media, he's the captain.....you go home and watch some videos of goals you scored LAST year.. anyways it was something like that....im losing it with this bunch of useless shits, the nerve... as for Gainey....i dont care about anything, i just care about the fact that he is the GM...and he failed....not last summer, not in the beginning of the season.....but when the trade deadline came and he failed once again to bring us a center knowing that lang was not coming back......(metropolit was not it) one last thing...and its the honest truth....i still believe in kovalev...but i think its his last 10 games with the habs....its been 2 games since he has not played anywhere near the level he can play...especially that he can make the difference and he usually is the type of player that loves the spotlight and loves to be the "hero"......well its that time my friend....if kovy doesnt wake up...we're not going anywhere.....clearly koivu is trying but he just cant...you can see it... KOVY NEEDS TO SAVE THE TEAM!

It's great to still believe..dont listen to em. Kovy is Kovy...his talent will find him somewhere else if not here...Everyone may crap on me but this years new improved defensive style play just wasnt his gig...

ifitwasnt4kovalev's picture
yea it hasn't been a good year....10 games left...hopefully he can pick it up....starting tomorrow night..cant wait.....but then again i said the same thing before the game vs. the leafs....!

I'll be at the game on sat. no matter what these guys say about his on ice performance I think he is a talented guy.Next year when we've essentially run everyone out of town and cant get anyone back in due to the behavior we display.(btw it's ok to hate losing but to hate YOUR players) they'll all be begging fer a Koivu or a Kovy...Hopefully plan B with bringing up the Bulldogs works out for em

HAHAHAHAHA. I really cannot stop laughing at this asinine post. HAHAHAHAHA

Got2BHabs's picture
Hands down, the most idiotic post I've ever read!

ifitwasnt4kovalev's picture
thank you

Harditya_CareyPrice's picture
no buddy i agree with the points you made let him laugh or whatever kovalev is still our best and most talented player 808s & Heartbreak is a good album - especially made for Habs fans, thanks Kanye West

I am not laughing at the Kovalev comments. I am laughing hysterically over the Higgins comments. Absolutely foolish comments this poster made about him!

Harditya_CareyPrice's picture
ohh lol sorry bro then =) 808s & Heartbreak is a good album - especially made for Habs fans, thanks Kanye West

HardHabits's picture
Panthers score on a 5 on 3 PP. Game tied at 2-2!!!

Imagine that. One of those southern teams that needs fans getting a 5 on 3 late in a game when they're chasing a playoff spot. GO HABS...

Harditya_CareyPrice's picture
2-1 hurricanes end of second...yess canes saving our as* right now!!! 808s & Heartbreak is a good album - especially made for Habs fans, thanks Kanye West

wd40's picture
i know but i hate that at this point in the season we're relying on other teams to make it into the playoffs. pretty sad.

Harditya_CareyPrice's picture
I know..but we have no choice we love Habs too much. Habs don't deserve fans like us.. 5 game losing streak cmon..if it would be a small struggle I would be fine..but this is a huge downfall still..we go ahead and hope for our team..GO HABS GO!!! 808s & Heartbreak is a good album - especially made for Habs fans, thanks Kanye West

Stewart Out Again!!!?? And Max Pac Down okay fair enough but i would send Dags down before him... Anyways im not the coach "They Chant Carbo As A Deflection It's Not Carbo You Wan't What You Wan't Is For The Players To Play Better Carbo.....Not The Answer"

punkster's picture
Yo...dudes...Marty can be beat!!!!!!

lavie's picture
It's Gainey's desperate lineup with no difference from Carbo's during last playoff vs Flyers - Gambling! If gambling, Gainey should have gambled theses lines: A. Kostitsyn - Plekanec - S. Kostitsyn Latendresse - Lapierre - Tanguay Stewart - Kostopolous - D'Agostini Higgins - Metropolit - Dandenault Sit Koivu and Kovalev? yes, sit them! It's time for LAPIERRE and SK47 to dominate the game, no more Koivu's, no more Kovalev's.

punkster's picture
That's right, sit your top two point leaders in your most imporant series of games this year. Yep, that otta do'er alright. Uh-huh, fer sur, that's the ticket.

people sit players emotionally coaches sit players logically... Hockey according to Lao Tzu lol

mrhabby's picture
can't sit the vets no matter how much they are struggling. you live and die by these guys and besides its all on there shoulders right now.

t1tan5's picture
Two good games and we are all ready to crown Lapierre the next big thing. We set expectations so high for young players that they are bound to fail.

lavie's picture
Koivu and Kovalev have failed setting up a tone to the 3 periods. Do changes come from Young guys or Old guys?

mjames's picture
I have come to the conclusion that it is worse reading the negative posts on this site than watching the team play. My poison is watching the team. Enjoy wallowing in your negativity. HIO is like the housing bubble. It is will burst. We will let the advertisers decide. It was good idea when it started but the posts are ruining it. So long - hopefully we will meet in the playoffs. mjames

Analysis: 1) best of best. 2) young up and comers. Futures. 3) Higgins for Kosto, whom I love, and that makes sense. 4) Should be an effective 4th line. Question 1: Can talent produce, re line 1? (Koivu/Kovy hasn't yet really worked.) 2) Is there a shooter on the #1 line? (yes kovie, but...) 3) Can plex make AK get a shot on net? 4) Defense? 5) 2nd period? 6) Shots for? 7) Heart, effort? and a bonus: Will someone, please, learn to drift into/stay in a 'shooting position', consisting of slot, circles, point, side of net, etc, get a pass that has a tad of mustard on it, and take shots? 'Cuz, like, shooting from a shooting position and setting up camp where yer dangerous... it's tough and not easy and they defend it and all that, but... there be payoffs.

I hope that Gainey has the sense to put the Franchise in net on Tuesday night.

punkster's picture
...and that's because...?

Price is the Habs future that's why. He is a proven winner that's why.

He might develop into a reliable premier NHL goalie one day, but right now his confidence is shot. A sure sign of this is his newly developed habit of playing too deep in the net and dropping down whenever it looks like someone's about to take a shot on him instead of challenging the shooter. Lately he's been spending more time on his knees than a priest in St. Joseph's Oratory. It's risky to use him but the alternative isn't much, if any, better.

He has one not so good game since Atlanta.

mrhabby's picture
in time maybe. lets not kill ourselves over price. he has not been great but if your taken 40 shots a night how would you feel night in and night out.

punkster's picture
He needs to get his mojo back before he can be allowed to get into a game, particularly any game as important as these next 10. He'll be OK at some point and he'll be our franchise at some point. For now we have to count on Halak carry us.

Halak will not carry the Habs. He was weak in his last two starts.

Qais's picture
Halak had two start weaks but what about Price. He lost 9 of his last 12 so you're going to tell me Price is better. 14

Nahlsy's picture
Price is 2-0-2 in his last 4 decisions, prior to that he allowed a single goal in a 1-0 loss to Atlanta. Halak is 0-3-0 in his last 3 results and has had a rough time stopping a beach ball lately. Both are coming off of a weak start but, only Price has put together any (6 in a row) solid starts in the past month. 6 great starts and 1 bad start means all the panic is unfounded. No goalie in the league goes without ever having a single bad start, especially when outshot 40+-20 every single game for 2 months.

mrhabby's picture
ya beat me to it.

punkster's picture
For all that's good and holy man, tune your brain implant to some other wavelength than mine, will ya!!!

mrhabby's picture
lol.

Well I guess you can add that to the list of reasons a player might not want to come here. Although in this case it might be why a player wouldn't want to stay here. But some people think that since he's being paid the big bucks that entitles them to talk to these guys this way. Talk about no class. GO HABS...

RetroMikey's picture
I am campaigning MAXIM LAPIERRE as our next Captain. Young, hard working player who gives 100% for the rouge-bleu-blanc. A gentleman off the ice as well, a true leader! Sad to say, I question Saku's leadership ability on this disastrous season, the finger must be pointed at him as well. "We will win the Cup only with Carey Price in the nets"

mrhabby's picture
Retro call BG and tell him what you think. its a good idea but come on lets not get carried away. Max is a good player and maybe will be an excellent player. let him continue to improve and will see what happens down the road. its way to much pressure right now.

RetroMikey's picture
Pressure? What pressure? Was it not Stevie Yzerman appointed captain at the tender age of 21 for Detroit? I am confident that Maxim would rise to the ocassion. "We will win the Cup only with Carey Price in the nets"

andrewberkshire's picture
Maxim Lapierre is not Steve Yzerman. When Steve Yzerman was Lapierre's age he was scoring between 50 and 65 goals a year and was one of the best players in the world. Maxim Lapierre is no where near that talent level, or leadership level. Steve Yzerman played the entire 2002 NHL season, playoffs and olympics with no cartiledge in his knee, meaning whenever he put weight on his leg bone was rubbing on bone. Despite that he scored a point per game in the playoffs and led Detroit to a cup. He is a hockey god and Maxim Lapierre doesn't deserve to mentioned in the same breath as Yzerman.

mrhabby's picture
iam not convinced but hey maybe what the hell do i know.

Got2BHabs's picture
Until he hits a rough patch like Komi, then who will it be? He has a a few good games, 25 points on the season (6 less than what Ryder got crucified for last season) and he's the next Captain? Give me a break.

RetroMikey's picture
Does the Captain have to be an offensive weapon on our team? I don't give a *** if Max scores 10 points in a season. He's not going to be your offensive guy we all yearn for. It's about a guy who cares for his players, a role model for the team who will put his job on the line, and that guy is Maxim, someone who would be vocal in the dressing room and on the ice. I know there was something speccial about this guy when he played for Hamilton and watched him many times. What you see Maxim doing in Montreal is what he was doing in Hamilton, playing hard game in and out, the kid has grit and character for a guy his age. Komi for Captain you say? Give me a break! "We will win the Cup only with Carey Price in the nets"

Got2BHabs's picture
I'm not saying Komi for captain, I quite like the one we have. I don't see anything wrong with Koivu. Last year everywhere you turned someone was saying Komi for captain and now? Everyone is crapping on him for going through a rough patch. If all it takes is caring for the players, being a role model and being vocal, why no TtB? Why not Dandy? And what exactly is wrong with Komi for captain? I will always back Saku, I love his heart and I love his character. Don't get me wrong, I love Laps too, I'm just not as quick to push Saku out the door like a lot of people.

RetroMikey's picture
I've campaigned for Lapierre to be our future Captain since I saw him play in Hamilton, my hometown. Once you meet the guy in person as I have many times in his tenure in Hamilton, you will know this guy was meant to wear the Habs jersey and be the next leader of our franchise. My most cherished moment of Maxim was winning the Calder Cup for us in that speical Game 5 game where he was on thie ice on the penalty kill and broke in a 2-1 and passing to Ajay Baines for the winner against the Hershey Bears! Why is this so special? Max was on the ice for a good 45 seconds on the penalty kill, and broke past a Hershey defenseman who came on the ice and outskated him to the other end of the ice for the winning goal. What speed and hustle! Koivu has been good for us over the years but it's time for a change, that's all I am saying. "We will win the Cup only with Carey Price in the nets"

Komi will do NO MORE EUROPEANS K

YUP! This thing has been a train wreck since he was appointed the "C" Good call lets stop the bleeding!

Hear, hear. I loved Hickey's question on saturday whether team simply wasn't good enough. Koivu talks nice but he has little success to show during his captaincy. Yes he has/had to deal with a lot but maybe it's simply not his cup of tea. Captain has to lead by example and i barely saw anything from Koivu since the all star game.

RetroMikey's picture
Glad you agree with me Timo. Captain has to take the fault as well and not hid in the closet. He may be buddy buddy with Foster Gillett but he ain't no captain of mine! Did you hear his snappy remark directed at Hickey on the audio on Saturday? I'm sure Hickey agrees that a new Captain has to be on board on this franchise. "We will win the Cup only with Carey Price in the nets"

I just give kudos to Hickey for asking the question. Enough pussy toeing around these guys. Love that somebody told Higgins that he sucks too. Glad you find it entertaining, Chris, cause there is a lot more to come.

Got2BHabs's picture
You are a disgrace as a human being

RetroMikey's picture
now, now! be nice, no derogatory remarks on this site! "We will win the Cup only with Carey Price in the nets"

mrhabby's picture
i think it stinks that some fool in public told higgins he sucks. but to each there own.

RetroMikey's picture
Democracy, ain't it great? You can say anything in public. "We will win the Cup only with Carey Price in the nets"

mrhabby's picture
there are some standards ..but like i said to each there own.

I think to instill fear Habs should re-unite The Mob line: AK46 - Hammrlik (why not?) - SK

HAB-PROFESSOR's picture
Obviously I don't agree with this move, we have sent down one of our better players, how in the world is that good for the team. He is going to learn more in Hamilton than Montreal!!!!!!!! quite the mentally deficient statement that is!!!!!! anyway, once again we have a "NEW" set of lines! bloody amazing!, do they have some kind of computer system upstairs? because I thought all the mathematical combinations had been used up! oh well, anything is possible...even a big turnaround to this skid... ----- 1. KOVY is now in his prime, he just needs linemates at his level. 2. The N.A.G. Youth Movement of PAX, D'AGS, OBRYNE & STEWY will make us cup contenders. 3. CALL UP HENRY RIGHT NOW....

FYI there are 64 possible lines, assuming no call-ups so you don't need a computer (add another 16 combinations per call-up). That's only for the forwards And no we haven't seen that many yet...:-)

mrhabby's picture
HP. know how you feel. but i think its a good move. yes , he may not learn alot more in hammy but he will get tons of more ice-time and thats all good. he will be better for it come next year and stay up with the big club all year. BG has to play all the vets for the last 10 games, its really the only hope of getting into the playoffs. its all on there shoulders instead of some rookies. we have to save these guys from the riducle and abuse they will take if no playoffs. its better served they be in hamilton.

punkster's picture
You win. Beer's on me.

mrhabby's picture
next time iam up will let you know. ps..hp awful quiet tonight.

punkster's picture
Yer on.

Like they said, he will benefit from a lot more ice time and upcoming playoffs. I guess it mean Habs themselves have pretty much given on the possibility of making the playoffs. So it's not just us.

I pray Saku,Kovy,Plecks,and the rest of the geritol crew take a hike EH!

Harditya_CareyPrice's picture
1-1 between canes and florida still 1st 808s & Heartbreak is a good album - especially made for Habs fans, thanks Kanye West

crap... sounds like it will one of those lame 3 point games

Harditya_CareyPrice's picture
so if FLA gets a point..we'll be tied with them wow..just never thought we would be TIED with panthers after a 104 point season... 808s & Heartbreak is a good album - especially made for Habs fans, thanks Kanye West

PrimeTime's picture
I like the lines. Higgins doesnt belongs on the 1st 2 lines as goal challenged he's been. Maybe he wont be told "you suck" if he is on a hard working grinder line. But all the lines are still weak if we cant get control of the puck and move it out effectively out of our own end.