Gainey treads lightly, for now

posted by Dave Stubbs at 12h50 EST on May 29


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General manager Bob Gainey's work is cut out this offseason.
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Canadiens general manager Bob Gainey tells La Presse reporter Marc Antoine Godin that his work is "not directly" affected by ownership issues, what with George Gillett seemingly on the verge of selling the club.

In Toronto for the combine camp featuring draft-eligible players, Gainey said he'll have nothing major to announce in the short term, either regarding player signings or any announcement of a new head coach.

Gainey added that he's been in contact with his stable of unrestricted free agents, but hasn't had concrete talks with anyone, aware that new ownership might want to move "in a different direction."

He also maintained that Montreal is a good place for other UFAs to consider. He's comfortable with his goaltending and says he knows his team's needs both at forward and defence.




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The ownership issue must be resolved quickly. After that I think the fans and Gainey should forget about Lecavalier! He had the chance to come to Montreal and he passed because he wanted to be a "loyal" member of the Tampa franchise. My theory is he should uphold his "loyalty", take a paycut and retire as the Tampa captain! The Canadiens need players who want deal with the pressure of a true hockey market! If I were Gainey I would package up Higgins, the rights to Komisarek, Fischer, and the 2009 1st round selection to the Islanders for John Tavares!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

habs12345's picture
islanders would definetly accept that deal (sarcasm)

HABWARRIOR A list of just some of Gainey's idiotic moves as GM of habs.(in no particular order) -Trading ribeiro for niniima....wtf was that.At least get back equal value. -Getting rid of huet....What for?Made no sense at the time and still doesnt.Poor Carey -Letting Grabovski go to the hated Leafs for someone....who even knows who.Great move Bob. -Not negotiating with any of our ufa's during season,and still none signed. -Not bringing in any ufa's ....oh wait Samsonov was great at 3.5 mil per. -Letting Claude Julien go when he was coach to bring in his buddy carbo.Reeeeeal nice Bobby G. Well u can catch my drift.The cons outweigh the pro's as far as im concerned.Bottom line:lets get a gm that knows what he's doing,eh.

Gainey is one of the top five GMs in the league and if the posters on this site can't see it read the Hockey News Draft Preview! Gainey: 15 drafts; 127 picks; 47 played in the NHL; 18 200+ games! Holland: 11 drafts; 88 picks; 21 played in the NHL; 6 200+ games! Lamoriello: 21 drafts; 215 picks; 85 played in the NHL; 43 200+ games! What more do you want? Ribiero sucks...he is soft, has a bad attitude and would have been run out of town by people like you. In addition, how far did Dallas make it this year?

the Ribeiro debate is an intriguing one. Let's look at the stats: in 2004 Mike Ribeiro had 65 points for Montreal in 2005 Mike Ribeiro had 51 points for Montreal in 2006 Mike Ribeiro had 59 points for Dallas in 2007 Mike Ribeiro had 83 points and became an all star What's interesting about the 2005 numbers is that they occurred *after* the lockout when the NHL rules should have favoured an offensive explosion. What's interesting about the 2006 numbers is that they were still not all star caliber. So are you protesting the trade value of the 2007 Ribeiro or the trade value of the 2005 Ribeiro? And given that the trade occured in 2005, if you're protesting the 2007 trade value, then I want to protest that the Habs Time Travel team needs to be changed... It's not clear to me what the value of a 51 point player is.

habs12345's picture
not too mention the habs are only one year removed from being the highest scoring team in the league with the number one power play. a couple of small tweaks and a good year from the kostitsyns and it's not unthinkable that they can lead there division again as fast as this coming year. but no of course not most people would rather gainey be fired and bottom out 5 years too collect draft picks..... sounds fun

-Letting Grabovski go to the hated Leafs for someone....who even knows who.Great move Bob. You're right, how dare Gainey trade away a player that everyone on the team hated, a player that would never have made the team, a former 5th round draft pick and get a 2nd round draft pick plus a prospect in return. What was he thinking?! -Not negotiating with any of our ufa's during season,and still none signed. People seem to fail to realize how this has actually worked out this time... What would everyone be saying if Gainey signed Komisarek for 6 million per like most wanted at the beginning of the season, or Kovalev to a lifetime contract at 5.5-6 million a year. Plekanec to a 4 million a year extension... Everyone would be calling for his head right now, but I guess that wouldn't be any different. -Letting Claude Julien go when he was coach to bring in his buddy carbo. You're right, Carbo was so horrible, leading us to 1st place in the east and being a runner-up for coach of the year just 1 year ago.

HardHabits's picture
You know that you're arguing with a person who has "$ UP BITCHES" in his avatar and writes like his favourite search engine is gizoogle!

Is Gainey looking at a reboot of the franchise? During last year's playoff run, I remarked to my wife, that the role of almost all teams in the Eastern Conference was to play second fiddle to the Penguins for the next decade. Pittsburgh has two unreal talents in Malkin and Crosby, a great defenseman in Gonchar, and a very good goaltender in Fleury. Couple that with the vastly under-rated Jordan Staal, and you have a dynasty in the making. If it wasn't for Therien's inability to coach his team, the pre-ordained Eastern Conference playoff champ would have been the Pens. Their coaching snafu's and Gonchar's injury probably created the illusion of parity when none existed. I mean do you, really, honestly, believe any team can play against the Pens? So what does this have to do with the Habs? If you're the Montreal GM, you look at your team, and an honest assessment is that you can try and squeak by the Pens once over the next five years, or you can basically reboot the entire franchise from scratch. If you try and squeak by, you might get lucky, but that's not what you're paid to do. And if you're Gainey, maybe you don't believe in luck. I think Gainey decided last year to reboot the franchise. He looked at the Pens, and thought to himself, there is no collection of players I can sign or trade for that could sustainably allow me to compete against the Pittsburgh dynasty. Worse, he looks at his top talent that is on the wrong side of 28, observes that he's lost a generation of players, forcing him to play rookies before their time, and concludes that he needs to reboot. That, in my not-so-humble-opinion, is the real rationale for the most peculiar of Gainey decisiosn, not signing tanguay *after* he traded for him. Gainey made a gamble that Tanguay as a replacement for Ryder, get's him a better team. And maybe he squeeks by the Pens. So how to reboot? One way to reboot is to engineer a trade where you get rid of top talent for draft picks. The problem, for Gainey, is that he doesn't need a pick in the 18-32, he needs 1-10 picks. And no team in the 1-10 zone is trading for Kovalev. And trading one of his younger talents doesn't help him... His problem is a lack of top-tier talent under 28. And frankly, the value of a pick between 3-32 is about the same. So instead, he lets contracts run out. This lets him eek out some good years from some aging players, while he slowly builds up his team. The point is not to give him flexibility to hire the UFA, but rather flexibility to sign his own home grown talent. And the theory is that now that it's been five years, and the Habs went from being a team that everyone expected to miss the playoffs to a team people expect to make the playoffs, he can slowly train his players and get to the point where he's got enough depth to compete with Pittsburgh. Just a thought. http://eastmeetswest.krung.net/east_meets_west/2009/05/to-reboot-or-not-...

HardHabits's picture
I'd like to see the team skate a salary floor team for the next 2-3 seasons, and start drafting in the 1-3 zone for the subsequent years that follow. The only way to the top in the new NHL is via the bottom, unless of course you're the Detroit Red Wings, whereas you have excellent scouts, an excellent system, both on the farm and in the big club, and you know how to assess and develop talent, all qualities that the Habs lack.

TorontoHabsFan's picture
For all those inclined to rip Gainey for "doing nothing" so far this off-season (and let's be honest, if he was "doing something" you'd rip on him for something else). I just took a quick peek at the transaction wires since the beginning of April, and since the Franzen resigning on April 11th, the only signings of note are: May 14 Vancouver Canucks: Steve Bernier Re-Signed May 26 St. Louis Blues: Jay McClement Re-Signed-Multi-year contract May 27 Vancouver Canucks: Rick Rypien Contract extended-Two-year contract extension So you see, nobody is doing much of anything at the moment (they don't know what the cap is for one thing). Or should we be arguing that every single GM in the league not named Gillis or Pleau is a useless bum that should be fired right away...p!ss or get off the pot right?

ooder's picture
excellent point...i am so tired off all the posters here that bitch and moan non stop --- we need a kovalev

HardHabits's picture
I am tired of the Canadiens sucking ass non stop.

Very good point.

likehoy's picture
gainey has ownership issues...i'm sure he'd love to do more but his hands are tied. - Pride + Envy = Second Place

Exit716's picture
Who owns Gainey? I thought Slavery was illegal. Is that what the Kostitsyns and Hamrlik were up to? They were pimping Bob on St. Catherine Street?

r u trying to be funny. I bet u r the only one laughing.

Exit716's picture
When I need a good laugh, I read all your posts.

Actually when u need a good laugh u look inside your pants.

gohabsgo25's picture
what do you guys think about nazim kadri. if we can trade the rights to one of our ufa's that we dont want to sign. i suggest trading for a top ten pick and draft this guy, hes a habs fan and if the leafs cant move up they wud most likely get him, which will really suck for a habs fan wearing that worthless jersey

I'm afraid your logic regarding UFA's is a bit flawed. No GM in his right mind would ever consider trading for the rights to an UFA now, when that player's contract is up at the end of June. Any UFA whose contract is ending next month can simply be signed directly by any GM come this July without him having to give anything to that player's old team in return. There's no advantage gained in owning the rights to a player for a couple of weeks since that player doesn't have to sign with that team and can just wait until July to test the market and go wherever. That's the particularly puzzling (some would say maddening) aspect to Gainey's having allowed something like ten players to all have their contracts expire at the same time. What's to prevent some or all of them from just waiting until July and then go to the highest bidder? We're talking about a good chunk of the team here. Some of them he may have had no intention of re-signing at all, but I would think there are probably fewer in that category than the ones he'd like to re-sign. All of this uncertainty has to derail any efforts at any progressive incremental improvement when there's no guarantee that some of the 'pieces' he was planning to build around can just disappear, leaving him to scramble to replace at least that level of talent that just left, never mind being able to seek any elements to add to that level. The real head-scratcher concerning Gainey's tenure so far, is his limiting of usual contract lengths for from 1 to 3 years. For someone who originally set himself a 5 year time frame to significantly improve the team, how can this be done in any kind of an ongoing and controlled fashion when the potential player turnover rate is so frequent? Wouldn't longer contracts allow a solid core to be here long enough to build around, much as Detroit is doing?

likehoy's picture
did you just watch the tsn clip too? he sounds like he's a kovalev...dangles and selfish play...there's not enough puck on one team for both of them...but i wouldn't mind to be dazzled by that kid once kovy moves on. edit: junior stats http://hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=96553 - Pride + Envy = Second Place

L - He played along with Yannick Weber on the Kitchener Rangers at the Memorial Cup two years ago.

Yes Detroit had a 15 year headstart, but look at all the players they've gone through during that time, and while Montreal was drafting like crap during the majority of the 90s and trading away players they had no business in trading, and naming coaches and GMs who absolutely new nothing of what they were doing, the Wings were drafting a pile of gems and making the right moves to put them in the position that they're in now and they're still constantly the among the best in the league (probably the best).......Of course there is luck involved in drafting especially middle to late round picks but Detroits European scouts must have kept an eye on Zetterburg and Datsyuk through out the whole entire season, and seen things they liked that other scouts missed or maybe the other scouts watched those two the odd game who knows

HardHabits's picture
If you look at where they picked Zetterburg and Datsyuk, and it's been pointed out by a well respected poster here, it was pure luck, otherwise they would've been snapped up earlier in their respective drafts. Where Detroit stands out is in player assessment and player development, that and in building a team that buys into its system, not to mention plays a system that's proven to be successful.

sidhu's picture
If Gainey leaves, how about Stan Bowman (Scotty's son and the Assistant GM at Chicago): http://blackhawks.nhl.com/team/app?service=page&page=NHLPage&bcid=tea_St... Chicago has done pretty well and we'd get Scotty as a bonus (a senior advisor or consultant).

likehoy's picture
isn't stan sick? i may be under the wrong impression but i thought scotty went to help stan in chicago cause of his health. either way scotty wants to be with stan so no point forcing it. - Pride + Envy = Second Place

Evaluating draft prospects,ufa's and players that would "fit" via a trade is usually the scouting or player personel's dept.responsibilities. Holland has the gift of surrounding himself with "good" people. The Wing's now are like the Habs were under Pollack not so much an organization but an organism. No division's with respect to direction and of one mind. Not to mention The Wing's have established stability and have had top notch coaching at all level's. This is why it will be 5 cup's in 11 yrs. There has been kaos in Mtl since abou mid term of Savard's tenure and he didn't leave us in the best of scenario's. The Language "BARRIER" and the restriction's that go along with it have been a considerable deterent in all area's of the Habs re-establishing the prestige that once was associated with CH. I feel for Gainey in some respects because of the forementioned restriction's. We need to once again begin hiring the best available people available without the language "BARRIER issue in order to once again become a stable franchise. In the meantime the futility continues for all those in and out of the organization.

showey47's picture
I think detroit's apparent draft mastery is a little over blown,below is the wings draft history. As for the whole datsyuk-zetterberg thing,if the wings thought they were going to be stars why were they not drafted till the 6th or 7th rounds? Also,look at the 11 players drafted ahead of them in those 2 years. How many of them became full time nhl players? I counted 1. The wings have also only drafted one real top line player since 1999,that guy is johan franzen. http://redwings.nhl.com/team/app?service=page&page=DraftStats&team=DET&y...

HardHabits's picture
You still have to give them credit for finding these diamonds in the rough, if not being directly responsible for turning them into the elite players that they are today. It's no coincidence that the Red Wings have a team that's almost half from Sweden.

likehoy's picture
good observation...they try to make drafting sound like a science but it's almost pure luck. red wings got lucky with dats and hank...but they if they get lucky again before dats and hank move on...then we'll still be talking about the red wings impeccable ability to draft. no one talks about montreals' ability to draft players who go on to be stars on other teams! (ribeiro, hainsey, beauchemin, brett clark, robidas) - Pride + Envy = Second Place

Thats another thing that bothers me about Gainey...Montreal like Detroit is trying to build their team through their farm system...which I love, definately nothing wrong with that...only problem is, is that Ken Holland is not afraid to trade one of their better prospects if it happens to improve the team

likehoy's picture
matthias for bertuzzi was a huge mistake according to holland. but when was the last time detroit traded a prospect? other than for bertuzzi. - Pride + Envy = Second Place

Detroit had a 15-year head start on the Habs in re-building their organization. It is a lot easier to fine tune a team than build one from scratch.

HardHabits's picture
When I look at the Detroit Red Wings, I'm disgusted. Disgusted that the Montreal Canadiens have become a circus sideshow by comparison. The Montreal Canadiens have gone downhill since Scotty Bowman left the organization. Not making him GM was the worst mistake in franchise history and if it wasn't for the fluke drafting of Patrick Roy we'd still be sitting at 22 Cups. Everybody talks about Gainey's great work with Dallas. Where are they now? This season, languishing in the middle of the pack and not even making the playoffs. We need a Scotty Bowman!

Sam Pollock's decision. What did Scotty do in Buffalo? And you answered your own question about Dallas. Gainey left and look what happened.

HardHabits's picture
Scotty's one blemish, if you want to call it that, was Buffalo, and that was largely due to the aging core he inherited. He still only missed the playoffs once while there and left the team with a very decent win-loss record. Everywhere else he has had major success. People talk as if Gainey's impact is still lingering with the Stars is why I brought that up.

habs12345's picture
you speak as if montreal missed the playoffs this year

Don't get me wrong. Scotty Bowman is one of the finest hockey minds in history. My point was no one is infallible. And Pollock's decision proves the same thing. Mike Modano is quoted as saying that Bob Gainey showed us how it's done. Hockey people, unlike some folks here, actually think Gainey knows what he's doing.

HardHabits's picture
Most hockey people wont criticize Gainey because they have too much respect for the man, but more than one hockey person/pundit has either rolled their eyes, looked the other way, tsk-tsk'd or questioned Gainey's moves or lack of them the past season. Show me one article that paints a pretty picture of the current Montreal Canadiens situation. The best Gainey could come up with was he has work to do, and now he's even admitting that his tenure as GM is uncertain. The two times Gainey fired his coaches with the Habs he replaced them with himself only to be ousted in the 1st round. I don't think Gainey's the man, but the saddest part is there's nobody better.

ooder's picture
the only people who have criticized gainey are posters here, and genius's like mike milbury and pierre mcguire (no offense boone) --- we need a kovalev

HardHabits's picture
...and pretty much everybody on Versus, TSN, CBC's HNIC and RDS, not to mention Red Fisher. Apart from that, nobody in particular.

Why do you think that hockey people have a lot of respect for the man? And if you could name the people who rolled their eyes, etc..., I would be more apt to believe it. Pundits don't count. And of course he knows he has work to do with all the UFAs to sign or replace and if ownership changes hands he could be replaced with the new owner's man. So what?

likehoy's picture
detroit sucked really bad in the late 80s and early 90s... every organization goes through stretches without winning montreal is trying to go back to its ways and you can't blame the organization for the lack of trying IMO we're one impact player away from being a serious team...aka kovalchuk - Pride + Envy = Second Place

Thats why I have lost faith in Gainey for right there, saying that he's comfortable in his goaltending or shall I say comfortable with Carey Price....Price has shown way to many times that he can't handle the pressures of being the number one goalie in Montreal as of yet....I agree with a comment that was made earlier that said that Price needs a mentor, someone who can play about 30 or 35 games, and if he's not willing to do that then atleast have a little more faith in Jaroslav Halak its that simple

M.A. Fleury wasn't very good when he first came to the NHL. Look at him now.

The Cat's picture
Gainey treads lightly...Stunner right there...

Mmmmm...Gainey has appeared to be treading lightly for quite some time now. At least it seems, from a week or two before this past season's trading deadline. Think back...it's the point in the season when a GM looks at his team and makes an effort to inject an added boost for the stretch run up to and into the playoffs if he sees a certain something is lacking. Either our own dear GM didn't watch any of his team's games after Christmas to see the club's self-destruction and so thought that everything was hunky-dory or he did watch and came to the conclusion that nothing at all could possibly help the squad. In any event, virtually nothing has occurred on the roster front. Of course that's due in large part to his method of waiting for the last second to deal with any UFA's. To even have so many UFA's all at the same time can be seen as a serious handicap to anyone who by their own admission is reaching the forecasted end of a 5-year "rebuilding" plan. It looks to me an awful lot like the foundations are going to have to be re-laid Bob, before any further construction can commence to bring this team to respectability. What doesn't help is Gillett's ongoing coyness about what he wants to do with the team. To use a rather strong expression, he should either sh*t or get off the pot! Is he committed to owning the team or not? Personally I think his decision to buy the team (and the Bell Centre) had more to do with the positive cash flow the team generated than with any sense of what the club means to Montreal and all Habs fans everywhere, much less with the huge responsibility and dedicated effort that a serious owner should have. What the Habs don't need is an absentee landlord. Whenever in front of the media, he's polished enough to say the right things, but I never get the feeling that he has any real passion for the institution that is Les Canadiens. It's simply another jewel in his sports empire that he can boast he owns. Add the two together, a GM so laid back (often to the point of inactivity on crucial issues) and an owner who only seems to show up come playoff time, and that's a recipe for a steady diet of mediocre hockey. And that's a crying shame for an organization that has always prided itself on excellence.

Nina76's picture
Right On Blueline,.Gillett is not helping in our situation TERRIBLE, he does not care about the Habs only the money............as far as I am concerned he is a greedy AMERICAN MONEY MONEY MONEY...........Now he is in real debt & cannot decide what he wants to do to get out of it.Bg has made some mistakes but he must think about how many players want to play for the habs.......I don`t understand why it is taking so long for them to find a coach..........when they do some of our best players will leave if they do not accept the new coach that will be the real sticker in the ointment. That`s why some of them are waiting. GO HABS GO!!!!

HabsFansince49's picture
Right on 'Blueline'. You didn't say this but I add that it seems because to most of us, BG is a nice guy and handles himself properly in front of the media, especially the Montreal mob, we always seem to be making excuses for him. Injuries, the economy,the Russians, too high expectations, and now the latest ownership uncertainity have been trotted out as reasons we are nowhere.The fact is that very few, if any (Markov exception),of our players would get pass the training camp of the present Stanley Cup finalists. We are light years away from this calibre of hockey. BG's plan is not working.

ProHabs's picture
Signing Perezhogin along with Emelin is a great idea. He was a first round draft pick and I think would do well in a return to the NHL. I also wish people wouldn't blame Koivu for the lack of success of the team over the last 15 years. Koivu should never have been expected to carry the team as the number 1 center all of these years. The team has failed miserably getting a number 1 center so that Koivu could have been our great number 2 center all of these years. That is managements fail, not Sakus. The job of the captain is to be the hardest working player on the team to be an example to the other players. Koivu has been without a doubt the player that shows up every night and gives his best. If he does leave this summer, he will be missed. Especially in the playoffs where is always turns it up a notch.

likehoy's picture
any word on perezhogin? there's no mention of him signing another russian contract...he made 1.8 million last year anyone think we can offer perezhogin more money up front? like a one-year 2.5 million deal? considering we have cap space to work with and the UFA pool isn't very good this year, i'd take a risk on one of the KHL's top scorers for the last two years. top free agents: http://tsn.ca/nhl/feature/?id=11818 - Pride + Envy = Second Place

sidhu's picture
I liked Perez and thought he was great with Bonk and Johnson. I'd definitely be interested in having him back, though I think 2.5m is too much for him.

likehoy's picture
one year 2.5 million is a make or break deal. it's saying we believe you can put in 25-30 goals a year and if you do you can get a nice long contract...and perezhogin has the ability...it's a high risk, high reward contract considering we'd have to pay at least that much to get him out of russia. ryder clearly didn't know what that meant when he was in montreal...but he still got his contract - Pride + Envy = Second Place

sidhu's picture
I'm with you - I'd take the risk

Gainey cannot sign players until he knows what the cap will be set at. You can only offer contracts when you know what you have to work with.

db's picture
He can sign several players and still be 10 mil under.. its not like the cap is dropping 5 mil or more..

Cap should go down by 2.5 million this comnig season and another 8 million next season. And if the global meltdown trend continues (as should be clear by november-december of this year) it could go down below 40 million. I don't think you want to have a 10 million Lecavalier on the team.

BC HAB ,ARE YOU BEING RUDE TO OTHER HAB FANS AGAIN....GO TOO BED,NO SOUP FOR YOU!

habs12345's picture
maby you should go too bed old man?

maby you should give your friends your car key's!

Let him alone. He is making friends all over the place.

takuto97's picture
And what about a coach? Few if any players would seriously consider signing here without knowing who will be behind the bench, I suspect.

showey47's picture
I don't buy it. It has alot more to do with not knowing who the next owner is then what the salary cap is projected to be. New ownership may mean going into a whole new direction and starting from scratch with a new g.m.,coaching,scouting staff and farm system. The ownership issue needs to be resolved as soon as possible.

HardHabits's picture
I totally agree. Ownership, the GM, the coach (and staff), and yes even what the farm system will look like are all unknowns right now. I look forward to seeing those issues resolved.

Everyone is acting as if Gillette is certain to sell the team. His preferred action would be to unload his interest in Liverpool F.C. Another alternative is to sell a portion of the Habs and the Bell Center but hold on to a majority interest. The sad thing is that this is just another major distraction for a team that didn't need one right now.

showey47's picture
A part of me thinks gillett is creating a bidding war for the habs in order to drive up the value of the team so the bank will lend him more money.

Showey I'm thinking something along those lines, too. The man is holding a public auction of an enterprise that is making a very healthy ROI. My curiousity is peaked about the final conclusion. I just hope I don't see it on E-bay.

That's a fair point. It's a lot easier to renegotiate a loan when you can show that in a potential arm's length transaction the value of the collateral has risen.

likehoy's picture
apparently liverpool F.C. is recession proof...why would you sell that!? hicks is selling everything BUT liverpool. - Pride + Envy = Second Place

showey47's picture
he isn't selling the stars but said he would like to sell the texas rangers

likehoy's picture
true! my mistake...i must have forgot while posting - Pride + Envy = Second Place

Robert L's picture
"His preferred action would be to unload his interest in Liverpool F.C" There's nothing indicative of that, my friend. He could unload it in a heart beat if he wanted.

http://www.habseyesontheprize.com/


That has me scratching my head then. Is his "partner" holding it up? The Habs have enough on their plate. They don't need the additional distraction of a potential change in ownership, especially as you have pointed out so close to the upcoming draft.

Bullshit, all GMs have cap experts who have a pretty good idea about what the limits will be. God, you must think the guys running NHL franchises are wearing loin cloths and have bones through their noses.

Why don't u pick another team to root for.

Why don't you just go study for your Trig final?

Ian Cobb's picture
After July the 1st there will be 135 free agent forwards and a 100 defence to choose from. No rush Bob!

Bob never rushes unless he has the trots.

what are trots

The clinical term is diarrhea.

In that case all that comes out of your mouth are the trots. Just like Guy Lafleur.

You were born in 1978 and you're talking shit about a "Hall of Famer" you never saw play live? You were what 8 years old when they won it in 1986 and about 15 when they last hoisted the Cup and you think you know something about this team? Dude, you are just about the biggest sphincter we have had on HI/O in months!

I never said anything about Lafleurs play. Your right, I never saw him play. However, if he has such good advice to give, why isn't he employed in the NHL?

Just shut up. You don't know dick about the sport or the team. God, you are just pathetic.

Yea, and like Guy, I'm one of the greats. Your knowledge of the sport of ice hockey couldn't fill a girl's pelvic protector on a good day with the wind at your back.

Blah Blah Blah. There you go with the diareah again.

Go hug your life size Carey Price cardboard and try not to get a woody.

What is with you always fighting Joe Bidens battles. Is it because u have your woody stuck up Bidens ass? Talk about love affair.

If I were you, I would just ruminate over the success of the franchise over my lifetime. Crap, you might as well root for the Rangers.