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Kovy's DVD is now in the clearance bin at Wal-Mart.
And whose DVD replaced his on the shelf, pray tell? Gomez's or Gionta's?
Peace Out
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Lord Bugs Potter, esq. Vicount of Vernersvurgh, Duke of Dickleberger and Follower Extraordinaire of The St.Flannel.
Sorry Bugs, but once again, who cares? Who cares if Kovy has a DVD? Who cares if we have a player who has a DVD on the team.
Now, a disco record album...that is another thing altogether. :o)
"Who cares if Kovy has a DVD?"
The charity that was getting money from the sales of Kovy's dvd.
Kovalev DVD
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them." - Sam Pollock
Peace Out
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Lord Bugs Potter, esq. Vicount of Vernersvurgh, Duke of Dickleberger and Follower Extraordinaire of The St.Flannel.
I had a feeling it was. Especially with the Lafleur disco album being alluded to.
This is me walking away...
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them." - Sam Pollock
And for my money, magic has disco beat every day of the week.
And lucky for me to have been born after disco so that it's retro enough to be cool again.
But disco ain't magic, baby.
Also, please don't think I didn't read your last post to me. Despite its length, your footing was very sure indeed, and I felt that my unwavering faith in the Artiste wouldn't be enough to counter your winds-of-change motif, considering I'd been clamouring for it too. ...
I just thought The Main Man would be exempt, is all. So did Mr. Gainey, so did Kovy, just not the Idiot Greenspun (or whatever his idiot name is) who went and tried to play the smart-*** with Mr. Gainey.
Until Kovy signs elsewhere, Twocent, I can't help but gnaw me nails and pine.
Kovy is a Mtl Canadien. The same way I think that, as we speak, Streit is STILL a Mtl Canadien.
Komisarek, oddly, I no longer consider a Mtl Canadien. Nor Higgy, nor Ryder, nor Souray. Once they left, it was done for me. Like you'd turned a switch.
But I miss Streit, mate.
Beautiful skill. Game-breaking talent. What this team's foundations were built out've. (sniff) With the Artiste gone, we're leaving the Source. (snuffle)
Maybe, we'll return one day... (sob) Ooooh-BOO-HOO-hoooo!
Koveeeeeeee... (cry-cry, tears-tears)
Peace Out
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Lord Bugs Potter, esq. Vicount of Vernersvurgh, Duke of Dickleberger and Follower Extraordinaire of The St.Flannel.
The 'Source' can be seen in the Kostitsyns, in Markov, in Price and who knows maybe in Cammaleri.
It's not all withered away, Bugs.
New stars will rise.
(btw, in the 70's Lafleur cut a disco LP where he overdubbed some instructional nonsence like, 'shoot the puck' and 'skate'. A good friend of mine has a copy somewhere.)
The Kid is exempt from all goal-scoring, team-carrying magic discussions, cool?
Cammy will score, I have no doubt. But Presence, Flair and Magic? Feh. Thrill me. Richer scored too...
Marky is the best player on the team. But that's all he is. No need to explain the sort of guy he is; you seen a bit of his nature, I reckon.
The only Source I can conceive of right now is the big K. That's stretchin it. Next is Soobie. Got high hopes for that sumbastich. Hope Bob doesn't trade'm. But with the Main Man gone, they better line up wins in a hurry or else these Mtl Canadiens'll seem BLAND as hell. Real bland, real quick.
Mind you, if Plecky had CONTINUED to improve instead of turning lily-livered in Beantown and big K had his drunken head on straight, we might not be having this discussion. About Kovy OR Koivu.
Peace Out
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Lord Bugs Potter, esq. Vicount of Vernersvurgh, Duke of Dickleberger and Follower Extraordinaire of The St.Flannel.
Was Patty exempt from the 'source'???? Huh???
Little K has flair too, plenty. He just has to figure out what his main focus should be for the next 10-12 years.
There's also hope Cammy does more than just score goals.
We'll see.
Patty was a brash, stalwart Frenchman, not a Flying one. He was the first of his kind on the team, our best goalie ever; wasn't no Source for him to issue out've.
The Source is Spectacular Offence. Like FIFA Team France, whom I love for the same reasons: lotsa goals, French flair, and drama. That's Kovy in a nutshell.
Whereas goalies don't score lotsa goals...even Roy!
Peace Out
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Lord Bugs Potter, esq. Vicount of Vernersvurgh, Duke of Dickleberger and Follower Extraordinaire of The St.Flannel.
Can someone please confirm that the on-ice sessions will start everyday at 1:30 pm? The site only said that it starts Monday at 1:30 pm. Thx!
I will be impressed if Avisin and Natinnen attend.
Such a positive time for them all, full of possibilities. I hope they all hear what is said by the Montreal Canadiens and not just what their agents want to hear.
It said in article that camp starts at 1:30 pm on Monday..is it going to be same time every day? Please provide details..I live 5 mins away from that facility and would love to see some of these prospects in action. Would be awesome to see some of these prospects before they become starts some day especially a guy like Subban and the draft picks from this year.
Come winter, with your tickets in hand, just before the game, God asks you "I'll let you choose ONE player tonight that'll get the first star and you can't say 'the Kid'."
Who'd you choose?
Peace Out
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Lord Bugs Potter, esq. Vicount of Vernersvurgh, Duke of Dickleberger and Follower Extraordinaire of The St.Flannel.
Saku, cuz he left it on the ice...plus Kovy might be in the press box that night for not trying!!
Hey, I'm game. I love a good "what if" and I'm one of those who would love to see Kovy back again. So it's winter which means it's after December 21, we're well into the season and we don't want to see any of the collapse or shenanigans we saw last year. We want to see a leader emerge by this time. That's why I choose Markov. I didn't say Captain...I said leader.
Peace Out
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Lord Bugs Potter, esq. Vicount of Vernersvurgh, Duke of Dickleberger and Follower Extraordinaire of The St.Flannel.
I was selecting Markov...first star...as I said, not talking Captain.
PS..and I will identify links in future as per earlier :)
I want the first star to be whomever scores a hat trick against the Booins. :)
jesus, get over it!
Fawning over a selfish player who is not even THAT good! I expected more from you Bugs.
Listen up: there ain't nuthin more to expect, aw'ight? This is it. It's all I got; ain't nuthin else. Stop expecting more from me. The pressure, man, this City!
Peace Out
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Lord Bugs Potter, esq. Vicount of Vernersvurgh, Duke of Dickleberger and Follower Extraordinaire of The St.Flannel.
Er... he led the team in scoring last season, Teach. Not that good?
Leading the team in scoring didn't count for much last year did it? The guy's got talent, he doesn't use it enough, plain and simple, he doesn't work enough, and he doesn't play within a team concept. No soup for him. NEXT!
The being injured team concept or the being hungover team concept?
Cuz I think the leading the team in goals and pts concept was the best one in the end.
Peace Out
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Lord Bugs Potter, esq. Vicount of Vernersvurgh, Duke of Dickleberger and Follower Extraordinaire of The St.Flannel.
Peace Out
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Lord Bugs Potter, esq. Vicount of Vernersvurgh, Duke of Dickleberger and Follower Extraordinaire of The St.Flannel.
Because until you get past that, nothing else matters.
I don't usually bump into God in the lineup at the start of the game. You must be using the players entrance. Tell him to take off that stupid toque, and do something about the kids not involving a penalty greater than 2 years imprisonment.
1. andrei kostitsyn
2. plekanec
3. latendresse
- thanks for everything, saku koivu.
Who cares! I want to see a TEAM, a winning TEAM , a TEAM that can go DEEP in the playoffs. I don't give a f%#$@ whether I can predict who will be the first star with any increased probability or not. I want a group of players united in their quest to WIN.
My enjoyment of hockey has nothing to do with being able to predict who'll be the first star. Let it be anyone of 5 or 6 players any given night for all I care or any one of a dozen players, it makes no difference to me. I want results. I want happy players. I want a TEAM!
Dig Bugs?
Peace Out
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Lord Bugs Potter, esq. Vicount of Vernersvurgh, Duke of Dickleberger and Follower Extraordinaire of The St.Flannel.
(...oh, I also answered because I enjoy your goofiness. But, this singled minded focus on one individual, especially one as inconsistent as Kovalev, goes against everything I understand a successful team to need)
Because, I care about the TEAM. I thought I made that fairly clear in my response.
I was hoping to convince you that belabouring the need for an aging, selfish phenom is counter-productive to the TEAM's goals. Has the past few years not made that clear? All this focus on Kovy! Kovy! Kovy! has stripped this squad of any semblance of collective value. It is time for this organization to raise a group, or core, to the spotlight. Whenever a team can be summarized as, As(insert name) goes, so the team goes, they are in a vunerable situation.
And before you suggest otherwise, not all stars want the spotlight on themselves, and only themselves, all the time. Kovy is self absorbed to the extreme. A great talent, when motivated to employ it, certainly, but he is no Gretzky, Messier, Lemeiux, Yzerman, Beliveau, or even Lafleur when it comes to valuing his teammates. And a star that doesn't value his teammates... DEVALUES his TEAMMATES.
While I understand how this may bemuse some folks, at the same time, they buy into this he-only-plays-one-game-in-every-4-5-6(soon 10-12-15)-games business so wholeheartedly because the man doesn't dominate EVERY single game. Boom, he's referred to as "selfish."
But the truth is from the VERY start, Kovy's Presence overtook the room, the team, and the City. Journalists chomping at the bit to bring him down and having AMPLE opportunity to do so (Julien out, vertigo, the tape) somehow never had the BALLS to go the distance against him. Never ruffled. Never RUFFLED, this guy. C'mon.
That's Raw Power, plain and simple.
No one is more of a Mensch on the Canadiens than the Artiste. No one can stand up to him. The last goofballs to try got turned into vapor (Souray, Rivet). Why them out and not Kovy?
Because Kovy brings more to the table than both of those combined on the best day of their lives.
Talent breaks games. No one EVER doubted him on the team for that and when he IS on, they all follow him like SHEEP. SHEEP! If that isn't a form of leadership, I don't know what is.
Sure, Koivu leads by "example". And he was great; I'm not disputing that. But in these winds of change, having a guy lead by RAW WIZARDRY instead, even if it's not at 100% optimum efficiency all the friggin time is still an EXCITING prospect. ... Unless I'm mistaken.
"Team" is all nice and good but it ain't worth two licks if you don't have someone you can turn to when the game is on the line. And that's Kovy, always has been. We love him because NO forward has broken games for us like that since Lafleur.
I'm all for "Team" too, Twodude. Framing my argument as: Bugs loves Kovy - therefore hates "team", I think that might be overdramatizing what I'm saying.
As a Representative of these modern Canadiens, the presentation, the package, the marketing, the jerseys, all that, I say Alexei Kovalev is a BRILLIANT choice. I am STUNNED at Kovy's agent's stupidity. I hope this can be worked out and that my favorite player stays.
Think it might also take awhile for folks to start runnin for those Gomez jerseys...
I hope you didn't get on folks for favoring Lafleur or Richer or Damphousse over the "team" either, 2cent, sheesh. "To HELL with Patrick Roy, you goof! Don't you know hockey? It's about "team", not Patrick Roy. You're WRONG to love Patrick Roy."
Twobits. C'mon. C'mon, mate.
Peace Out
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Lord Bugs Potter, esq. Vicount of Vernersvurgh, Duke of Dickleberger and Follower Extraordinaire of The St.Flannel.
In my view Bugs, on the matter of Kovy being a natural leader, you are mistaken.
It may be an exciting prospect, but, it's no way to build a championship team. Don't oversimplify leadership into being merely about charisma and talent. That makes him a phenom, some phenoms become leaders, some don't. Sports is full of incredibly talented and charismatic people who are not fit to lead their dogs.
Lafleur never wore the "C", for that matter I don't think he ever wore an "A". Neither did Richer or Patrick. And as I responded to Chuck below, Kovy is in a leauge of his own when it comes to self absorption. I root for individual players too, but not when their personality overshadows the rest of their team. This isn't baseball or basketball, no player single player is on the playing surface for well over 60% of a game. Just because his teammates are in awe of him doesn't make him a leader. Leaders have to inspire everyone around them to reach their full potential, not simply create the space for themselves to attain their potential. You think with Kovy gone no one will step up and score those clutch goals? You think you need to have other worldly talent to score clutch goals? If you answered yes to those two questions you are, once again, mistaken in my view.
Having said all this, your entitled to your opinion, I just don't agree.
Otherworldy is beautiful. Beautiful is exciting. Beautiful is intoxicating. Beautiful RALLIES others to be beautiful.
Who is beautiful with Kovy gone? We're going to be watching a second rate version of the Devils for the next 5 years, can't I have some sugar on my porridge?
Can't I get some friggin DRAMA? Where's the drama without the Artiste?
We need the Artiste. Yay, Camalleri, yay, 82 pts, yay! Kovy got 84 wearing our jersey. On Camalleri's BEST DAY, he's no Artiste...
Peace Out
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Lord Bugs Potter, esq. Vicount of Vernersvurgh, Duke of Dickleberger and Follower Extraordinaire of The St.Flannel.
We'll see who will have the chance to be beautiful now. Certainly with Kovy around there wasn't much room for others to be.
Bugs, I posted this on one of Boone's threads yesterday. I know you don't frequent those often so I'll copy it here for you. Just in case you think I am clamouring for Saku back at the same.
In the end, I think it's time to move forward in a fresh direction, with that in mind re-signing Kovy makes this whole process a half measure.
From what I can see these moves have everything to do with clearing the air. Gainey got an ice level view of the team last year and clearly was not impressed with the atmosphere. You could hear it in his public statements throughout the last month of the season. The gamble is that with the former leadership purged the younger players will have the opportunity to establish a new culture on the team. I am stunned by the events of the last few days, but I am unwilling and unable to project how it will all play out on the ice. That's what the season is for.
Of all the players leaving Saku is the most disappointing for me, but when I look at the intensions of this, as a whole, I can see that it would have been counter productive to Gainey's aims to keep him.
In retrospect, the key moments in this trajectory were the decisions to allow Saku's original secondary leadership group to leave. It seems most of those moves were initiated in an attempt to create space for Kovy. The tactic failed from a chemistry stand point and the fall out was the last 48 hours. Call Gainey's moves whatever you want, but don't doubt for a second that they didn't require courage and resolve.
The former leadership group had their chance. Even if in the end results would been the same, had they shown Gainey last April that they had the chemistry necessary to rebound, he would have proceeded differently. Most of the drafted core that Gainey and Timmins have assembled are still in place, with Markov being the single holdover from the previous regime. Gainey is attempting to give them all a new perspective and frankly I think it is needed. Rest assured that complacency will not be a problem this coming year. Every player is on notice that they will be held accountable.
Don't interpret my comments to be placing blame on Koivu. I still respect him very much. For whatever complex reasons it simply wasn't working with this group. If you ask me, it all comes down to what you refer to at the beginning of your post. Gainey's two headed beast approach simply was not functioning and a complete purge was the option he chose.
After the news today of Kovy's dithering, it only reinforces what I have always felt about him, he is one of the most disingenous people to have ever played for this franchise.
Bob tried to have his cake and eat it too with regards to Kovy and the team has paid a steep price for this. Gainey gambled and it failed. The tension between Kovy and Koivu was simply too big of a distraction. Now he is trying to restructure. Few people would have the capacity to envision a way out of last year's debacle. If he succeeds, his legend will grow, if he fails his tenure will come to an abrupt end before next season is over.
From where I sit there are two major ironies here. One is that I remember Saku making it clear that he wanted Bob to re-sign Kovy during the lock out if he were to consider staying in Montreal himself. He rightly felt the team needed a player of Kovy's caliber. How much money would you bet that in hindsight he regrets the public uttering of that sentiment? The second is that the trade widely viewed as Gainey's greatest fleecing, the acquisition of Kovy for the proverbial bag of pucks, may prove to be his greatest undoing. Life can be cruel, especially when you get mixed up with the likes of a complicated character like Sir Kovalev.
There is no more self-absorbed, over-hyped player in the league than Sidney Crosby... and look where that got them!
;)
I caught the smiley face in your post, Chuck. But, still, your not going to suggest that Kovy is some kind of Crosby. And even then Crosby has Malkin and Fleury and Gonchar, And even then Crosby, as self absorbed as he is, is still more likely to credit his teammates than Kovy is. In most interveiws with Kovy you get the impression he is not even sure who his current teammates are.
The really funny thing on here is when those who can't let go of Kovy talk about how he never really was a 1st line player and has been misused and miscast here. These are often the same people who compare his talent to the greatest that ever played. If his talent is at that level, it says all you need to know about him that he still somehow isn't a real 1st line player.
With the great talents, who understand the nature of this team game, there is never a doubt of which line they belong on. I recognize his physical talents, so you tell me what's missing. Why has someone who as recently as 2 years ago was being described as one of the most talented players in the world, never really established himself as a legitimate 1st line guy, and this in the eyes of his own fans?
I'm not going to suggest for a moment that Kovy is on Crosby's level as a player. My only comparison between the two was their "me" factor, of which they both have in spades. In fact, to succeed on that level it's a quality that every superstar has to have. It's all about wanting to have the puck on your stick when the game is on the line, and having the confidence in knowing that you can do more with it than anyone else on the ice. Crosby has it. Gretzky had it. Bossy had it. Lafleur had it. Richard had it.
I don't care if Kovy plays in the first line, second line, line 1/1a, or whatever. I don't care if he's named Captain. I don't care how much he would sign for. I don't even care how he gats along with others in the room... it's quite frankly none of my business; that's for the team to deal with.
I'm like you; all I care about are results. The overall success of the team. WINS.
Kovy, with his all-world talent, may very well be a substantial underperformer. But even when he's not at the top of his game he's still the most taleted player that we have. He had an off year, and he STILL led the team in scoring. He led the team in goals, and was second in assists (almost doubling his goal total), which would lead you to believe that he's not as selfish as some would have you believe.
Off the ice, he's got ties to the city. He's involved in the community and his foundation and Kovy's Kids. And he wants to be here.
Let's go over our potential #2 right wingers, since Gionta will undoubtedly be slotted at #1. Who's next? Latendresse? D'Agostini? Laraque? Stewart? Even if you were to move Sergei over there, would any of those players be better on the second line right wing than Kovy? If you were the opposing coach, who would you rather defend against? And then there's the power play...
My point is that we're a more lethal team with Kovy in the lineup. And if Gainey, Martin and the rest of the team can deal with whatever shortcomings Kovy may have, than I'm willing to, too.
No questioning the fact that great players want and need to want the puck. Whatever accusations of selfishness my comments imply have more to do with Kovy's affect in the dressing room and on team morale and cohesiveness than they do with his style of play.
We, as fans, have a distant vantage in terms of understanding each personality's impact on team chemistry. So we can only try to read what clues we have. My read adds up to what I have said over the last few days. Sure, if the team's directors decide they want him back, then it must mean my take is at least somewhat off(or that they are mislead and wrong... while I don't think I know anywhere near as much about hockey as Gainey and crew, it doesn't mean they are infalliable.)
To follow your logic above, if Kovy is clearly our most talented choice for 2nd line right wing, and I don't disagree considering your list, though I would put A.Kost on that side myself and let Pacioretty play left on the line, that must also be obvious to Gainey, right? So, if it's obvious and he knows he can sign him, why do think Gainey walks away from his offer so quickly? If Kovy's pluses and minuses shake down so clearly on the plus side, wouldn't Gainey have dogged him more or, as I suggested yesterday, wouldn't he have offered him a deal as soon as the Vinny stuff was dead? Like he did for Komi.
I say this is a unique opportunity to clear the air of the stench of last year and it's time to move forward. Even if I am somewhat wrong about Kovy, given the lengths this team has gone to purge and rebuild it's leadership, Kovy would be, at best, a step backward and a hinderance to establishing a wholly new team culture.
It's simply time to move on.
What??? You don't like Kovalev as the 1st star? :)
Hysterical! lmao.
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Beliveau is the best that ever was.
Gomez, because he will be the key to the season
2nd choice, Plecs because he needs to bounce back
3rd Choice, Gui because this is the year he needs to raise it up a level
Most fun choice - Spacek with a hat trick so he can become known as "Spaceshot"
I would be in intersted in hearing any reports about Tom Pyatt. Nobody is mentioning him at all (came over with Gomez)
He played for 2 Gold medal Canadian Jr. Teams & I believe was captain of the Saginaw Spirit in the OHL.
I do recall seeing him play aginst our Junior team (Sarnia Sting) and he was a force to reckon with.
Now I realize Junior success doesn't guarantee NHL succes but the Habs must of included him in the trade for some reason.
Anyway, If someone gets to go to the camp, updates would be appreciated.
Until someone chimes in from camp, here's what McKeen's 2007-08 Yearbook says about Pyatt, a 5-11, 180 pound C:
Quietly constructed a splendid breakout campaign to lead the Saginaw Spirit in scoring during both the regular season - 58 games 43 goals 38 asssists 81 points 18 PIM and playoffs (6-3-5-8), while also making vital contributions in support of capturing his second consecutive gold medal with Canada's world juniors (6-1-3-4)...brave, undersized workhorse with slippery hand skills and a terrific feel for the game...not blessed with blazing speed but is dexterous and fairly graceful on his feet....more a steady and efficient skater....constantly moving and staying involved, guided by sound positional sense and superb conditioning...would benefit from adding explosiveness to his stride...responsible penalty killer and persistent checker whose motor never stops moving...tied for third in the league with six short-handed goals...doesn't take bad penalties either...named OHL Most Sportsmanlike Player for 06-07...scored at a goal-a-game pace down the stretch (17-17-11-28),,,stalwart complimentary player and among the most under-rated prospects.
I don't know how many times this has been posted this week...but one that I'll never forget.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1X8N-8uFvo
Tough as nails.
My home computer ain't as fast anymore, so I wanna KNOW where I'm goin afore payin for the gas.
Is it Kovy's Ottawer comeback? Boston series hostile takeover? Tucker crush? Millenium comeback 3rd period? All-Star Game? Amateur footage of the Kovy-Gainey park-talk? Kovy eating a hotdog? Dancing with Elizabeth Taylor? What is it?
...
Just realized writing this goofiness probably took longer than clickin the link would've. But still, folks should identify their links.
Peace Out
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Lord Bugs Potter, esq. Vicount of Vernersvurgh, Duke of Dickleberger and Follower Extraordinaire of The St.Flannel.
Point taken...lesson learned.
So what's the link?
Peace Out
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Lord Bugs Potter, esq. Vicount of Vernersvurgh, Duke of Dickleberger and Follower Extraordinaire of The St.Flannel.
An artistic lesson laid on Tucker by Kovalev...THE hit...and well deserved payback.
Loved it. His shining moment. Our dedicated STAMP of love on him as of that very moment.
Only saw it a billion times though...
Peace Out
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Lord Bugs Potter, esq. Vicount of Vernersvurgh, Duke of Dickleberger and Follower Extraordinaire of The St.Flannel.
i luv saku, he's been the heart and soul leader of our team for years. he's done so much for the habs and our city and the finnish church downtown. being a fellow finn myself its hard to say this but its time to go another direction. sakk has lost a step.his pts totals are dwindling and his days are over in mtl. go play with ur brother.
for kovey he'd be great if dr.jeckel shows up with the big gunns weve just got.finally a set up man for him. if dr.hyde shows up and says ah hell im coasting tonight as happens with him, trade the bumm.
Rules are rules - Aaron Johnson still hasn't received his - from Tom Benjamin's blog ..... If the player did not receive the offers in time, they did not receive them at all. If they did not receive them in time, they are unrestricted free agents. How can it be otherwise? If I represented Kris Versteeg and he had not received his qualifying offer by the deadline, I would immediately announce that my client was an unrestricted free agent and open the bidding for his services. ............... http://canuckscorner.com/tombenjamin/?p=1258
I hear you but if the player knows he's going to be qualified and he wants to play for the team then the rule is a guideline. If the player wants out then the rule is a rule. So if the Hawks foul up one I imagine it would be up to the player to interpret the 'rule'. If the Hawks missed a handfull I bet it is up to the NHL to interpret the 'guideline'.
Has anybody else seen this?
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=283634
It will be interesting to see what shakes out of this. The Hawks could find their cap trouble a year early if these guys are declared UFA's.
I don't imagine it would be an issue...unless someone, or their agent, was making it one.
It is almost as if the stats et al should reflect an agents number beside the players name rather than a sweater number.
Much ado about nothing.
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Beliveau is the best that ever was.
Oops! We're they too cheap to spring for FedEx?
LA gtes ryan smyth. Does this mean kovalevs chances of returning to montreal are slightly higher? I still see him ending up in Washington.
nope..kovy and tanguay in colarado.smyth to la.
... posted earlier on new thread ..... ... from All Things Avs ...... By the way, there has been a report that Alex Tanguay will re-sign with the Avalanche to replace Smyth. That will NOT happen. Tanguay is not coming back to the Avalanche, period.
My sources tell me Tanguay could be signing with the Phoenix Coyotes. But that is not a done deal at this point.
Nightdream. C'mon now. No fibbing. No make-believe. No knowing the brother's cousin's nephew's neighbour business.
Right, Nighthorse?
What sources? Spill it all or spill it none. None of us here are beholden to a journalistic oath. What sources?
Or is Knightmare your real name? Spill it.
Peace Out
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Lord Bugs Potter, esq. Vicount of Vernersvurgh, Duke of Dickleberger and Follower Extraordinaire of The St.Flannel.
" RAID "
Kills Bugs dead!
Peace Out
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Lord Bugs Potter, esq. Vicount of Vernersvurgh, Duke of Dickleberger and Follower Extraordinaire of The St.Flannel.
I was talking about RAID. Just having some fun with a familiar product, and a familiar poster. But if you want to talk about nm49, fair enough. Why would he, or anyone else here, have to be "accountable" to you or anyone else here?
Yes, I know about RAID's tagline, thank you, Tommy. That's why I started my last post with "And". Backtrack the posts now and you'll see what I'm asking Nightmare to be accountable for. And it ain't as big a thang as you'd like it to be, I reckon...
Peace Out
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Lord Bugs Potter, esq. Vicount of Vernersvurgh, Duke of Dickleberger and Follower Extraordinaire of The St.Flannel.
As big a "thang" as I'd like it to be? Whatever. I think the Duke of Dickleberger is wee bit touchy today.
LAs gonna be sexy this year.
Peace Out
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Lord Bugs Potter, esq. Vicount of Vernersvurgh, Duke of Dickleberger and Follower Extraordinaire of The St.Flannel.
Have you ever seen Ryan Smyth?
Well he IS the ladies choice amongst the Centenarian set :)
http://www.canada.com/edmontonjournal/story.html?id=d02cc45c-2851-41ac-b...
He has a face only a great-grandmother could love. Hell of a nice gesture by him.
Coming from a guy who probably has chowder oozing out of his pockets. Funny.
That's spelled "chowdah".
Man, I'm having people steal credit from me already?
(100 in 25!-- ...what?) (Best of luck, Captain K.)
found it here, too, post #5:
http://forum.canadiens.com/index.php?s=a8bf8153527fa5828e999e890500bc4a&...
That one was on the board here a couple of days ago.
I still the Mercenary line: three over-paid guys parachuted in to save the team with their asses on the line.
~ Listen to the smart dog - he knows his poop!
ha!
No thanks on Koivu. But Kovalev was the only one with the balls to go on St. Laurent street and try and haul some of his younger teammates out of the bars. Didn't work from what I hear. too many people in the way.
Discipline should come first of all from the management and coaching staff. This centennial celebration and the all star game were too much a distraction to the "party-boys". The management were more interested in the festivities. Now that it is all over, those "party-boys" should know that their carriers are at stake and BG will have no hesitation to dump them if they didn't behave.
Let me get this straight...grown men go into a bar, probably past curfew, and its somehow Koivu's responsibility to go get them? If THIS is the idiotic molehill that's supposed to make me think more negatively of Koivu as a leader, then I'm afraid I'm not buying.
Even if true (and second-hand stories don't particularly interest me), I couldn't honestly care less. Here's the stuff I do know, from sources that will actually stand up and be accounted for as opposed to shadowy rumour brokers:
i) Koivu elected captain of the Montreal Canadiens
ii) Koivu elected captain of the Finnish national team
iii) Koivu elected athlete representative (along with Canadian cross-country skier Beckie Scott) to the International Olympic Committee
iv) Stand-up, genuine guys like Brian Savage, Sheldon Souray, Craig Rivet and Mark Recchi consider Saku Koivu as one of their closest friends
v) Even a little punk like Mikhail Grabovski, who had nothing positive to say about the Habs, said that Saku Koivu was the only player on the team that he respected. Immediately after a game in which he had just been shown up on national TV by Koivu for on-ice antics.
I'll take those ones over a possible failure to go out in the middle of the night to "rescue" some teammates from a bar.
Its not Koivus responsibility to go get them at a bar, it is a bit his responsibility to make sure it doesnt keep happening and hurting the team however. Listening and looking at koivu, I never got the impression that he cared for the team that much, to me (and I may very well be wrong) he looks like a 'come in-get a paycheck-get out' type of guy. He may have cared at one time but all the years in Montreal have probably jaded him.
Very well said. These rumours have got to stop too. It is like we have the panel from 110% posting on here.
well said!
like i said, saku by no means is their dad off the ice.
and if it were you...would you rush into a bar to safe your teammates? call the effin cops...
- thanks for everything, saku koivu.
koivu's their captain on the ice...he's not that their dad off the ice
that being said...NFLers have people that watch their players sort of like a bodyguard-ish/dad that makes sure they're not screwing around...habs need one of those guys.
- thanks for everything, saku koivu.
where was Vick's Chaperone? Who looks after TO?