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fed up ; kovalev- what a fake! i can count on the fingers of one hand the times he has gone to the front of the net-what a chicken! all he does is skim around on the outer perifery so that he doesent get hit, so that he can continue to get his pay for as long as possible. talented he is, with pulling the wool over the gullible fans eyes! good riddance to him!
Hold Gainey Accountable!
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/gainey-we-the-fans-express-our-disappoi...
No possible way Kovy will be back and I'm disappointed!
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=283860
Kovalev rented an Aeroflot plane and brought in his slaves from Estonia to march for him....actually, if people knew it would probably be more than a hundred for sure. Kovalev is going to be a big loss, just like Koivu is a big loss. This year the habs just won't have the same spark, but it should be exciting hockey cause it doesn't look like we have a leader in any of the remaining players. And who thinks Gomez or Gionta will help sick kids ala Koivu style? Or inspire the K bros to play like wild men on occasion? Or make it look like shimmy hockey when they want to, and make the other teams look like amateurs! Only Koivu and Kovalev could do that. But honestly, I doubt Cammaleri has it in him to be a Captain, he'll probably get the big C, that's probably why Gainey got him, to replace Sakku and Kovalev. That's a lot to replace in a short time, all these years of tradition. We'll wait and see, but Gainey has lost my respect, even though it may not be his fault that these professional hockey players, well acted like professional hockey players.
Are people in this city on drugs? Maybe they have nothing else better to do on a Sunday afternoon! The guy played 4 seasons with the Habs and we're giving him a Maurice Richard-like tribute...SERIOUSLY!!! Have we lost our friggin minds here!!!???!!! I don't want to turn this rant into a Koivu Vs. Kovalev thing but what about Koivu?? How the hell can we protest for a guy who gave four years and not even sneeze for the longest standing Canadiens Captain who gave a million dollar machine to the MUHC...the Saku Koivu foundation and so much more for 13 years!!! How stupid 200 fans keep making us look...These are probably the same ignorant morons who booed the American Anthem and booed the Habs off the ice after game 4 against Boston...
Nothing short of a disgrace to all Montreal fans...everyone has the right to freedom of speech and to express themselves...and if it is done so in an uneducated way then everyone else also has the right to disown you and call you an idiot...
Knowing is Half the Battle...
Sorry folks. Gainey was on CJAD this morning and he stated unequivocally, leaving zero room for misinterpretation, that Kovy won't be back next season.
Yup, here's the story:
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/kovalev-wont-be-back/article1207895/
you know what? I think a march is a better approach than the rioting this city does whenever it doesn't get it's way (ala guns n' roses concert, the rocket getting suspended, etc...)
Doubt this'll work. But he's gone, not coming back, unfortunately. Let's hope he ends up in Washington with Ovy. It would be magic.
I feel a lot of frustration in this thread...
I bet that everyone would have been behind this if it was for Koivu. Beleive it or not, Montréal LOVES Kovalev. He can win a game on his own if he wants to and that is why people likes him...
But do not worry, i understand the frustration.
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We have a new team!
Mike Komisarek: 0-0-0
Good riddence to half baked/over paid rubbish. See ya later slacker, don't let the door hit yr lazy a$$ on the way out...
No way Gainey bows to public pressure.
Koivu should be been resigned for 2-3 years as the 2nd D.
------------------------ Vive La Sainte-Flanelle!
You should then (snort) pressure Gainey to re-sign him.
Bwaaaah-ha-ha! Sorry, but your contradicting post is sheer brilliance, mate.
Peace Out
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Lord Bugs Potter, esq. Vicount of Vernersvurgh, Duke of Dickleberger and Follower Extraordinaire of The St.Flannel.
LOL chill dude, yr allowed to be a Kovy FanBoy. I'm just saying Koivu is a far better 2nd center than Pleks. I'm speaking to you people, not Gainey (as if he reads the dribble on here or anywhere.) There's no contradiction. Gainey will do what he's gonna do and right now they're both gone. He made up his mind and the money train left the station for Kovalev. However, Koivu could still be signed for a few years.
Just voicing my opinion of what I'd prefer. I'm well aware that it holds about as much weight as the lost souls in front of the rink did.
Anyway, Flame on Bugsy, it's obviously your calling...
------------------------ Vive La Sainte-Flanelle!
Peace Out
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Lord Bugs Potter, esq. Vicount of Vernersvurgh, Duke of Dickleberger and Follower Extraordinaire of The St.Flannel.
Nope, I'm as irrational and emotional as the rest. Having payed almost 4K per year for my seats in the Bell center over the last 3 years and watching Kovi sleep though 2/3 of almost every game, I got pretty sick of helping to fund his salary. He's trully a thing to behold when he shows up, but it's been painfull and frustrating as hell watching my club get owned and see him sleep through it.
BTW, I see the point yr trying make, but I never said the people protesting shouldn't have been. By all means, if it weren't for the fans there would be no sport, Gainey has proven time and again that media/fan critism doesn't sway him. So their ire and support is a mute point.
------------------------ Vive La Sainte-Flanelle!
Our position (Artiste-lovers) is that his positives FAR outweigh his negatives.
Peace Out
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Lord Bugs Potter, esq. Vicount of Vernersvurgh, Duke of Dickleberger and Follower Extraordinaire of The St.Flannel.
I pretty much did dude, you just saw red due to the same subjectiveness that prompted me to write it.
For me, 100% effort every shift, every game outweighs skill. He's got god given, unique talent but it's no good if he doesn't use it, not at the salary he commands.
Anyway G'night bugs, I gotta work in the morn.
------------------------ Vive La Sainte-Flanelle!
Do you even read the posts you reply to? He wrote what he thinks would be a good choice, not that he is demanding it.
Hm. Curious.
Peace Out
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Lord Bugs Potter, esq. Vicount of Vernersvurgh, Duke of Dickleberger and Follower Extraordinaire of The St.Flannel.
Jeeze, look he is posting in a Habs blog, not holding up a placard and chanting, there is a bit of a difference. Anyway, guess you dont see that. Oh well. Good night Bugs.
Am I the only one that thinks these people should find something more substantial to protest about.
Last I checked the Montreal Canadiens were not a democratic oginization, and as such can not withold anybody's democratic rights.
We get it, you like Kovalev, if he's gone he's gone get over it, no one will die over it or suffer needlessly.
Please go protest a war or a repressive regime, and let Bob Gainey and company run thier hockey team.
This is Hab blog. Perhaps you're unfamiliar with what we do here... You'll get used to it.
Either way, welcome to the new guy!
Peace Out
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Lord Bugs Potter, esq. Vicount of Vernersvurgh, Duke of Dickleberger and Follower Extraordinaire of The St.Flannel.
I am not critical of yapping about the Habs on this blog, Lord Bugs. Just saying that putting the time and energy into walking the streets in protest is a bit much, and dare I say gives Habs fans a bad image. I express my thoughts and feelings about the Canadiens on this blog too.
These fans aren't "protesting" as much as they're "encouraging". Drawing a line in the sand that says "You can protest this but not that" is ridiculous.
"Gives Habs fans a bad image" you say??? Some could argue that their dedication to their favorite player far outweighs that of any other hockey fan could muster.
So it's not "a bit much", Dyson. It's just "a bit much for YOU".
Doesn't make it wrong.
Peace Out
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Lord Bugs Potter, esq. Vicount of Vernersvurgh, Duke of Dickleberger and Follower Extraordinaire of The St.Flannel.
I never said it was wrong. Who am I to judge? I just merely said "Is it just me....". Once again, read the post before you reply. Protest what you like, go ahead you have the right. But I also have the right to point out that your protest is trivial and pointless.
Peace
"Is it just me" implies what you're desperately changing your story NOW to imply, that your reasoning could be faulty.
But "Am I the only one" implies that your position is strong and unassailable and that those around you are nuts.
Read your posts before you change your story and blame me for it.
Peace Out
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Lord Bugs Potter, esq. Vicount of Vernersvurgh, Duke of Dickleberger and Follower Extraordinaire of The St.Flannel.
Yes am I the only one that has this opinion. Does not mean my opinion is the only real true in stone fact for infinity. OK I thought this was a forum to post opinions. Did not realise that I should be writing gospel here. I will wait for divine intervention before I make my next post.
Good night.
Do you agree?
Peace Out
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Lord Bugs Potter, esq. Vicount of Vernersvurgh, Duke of Dickleberger and Follower Extraordinaire of The St.Flannel.
That is a GREAT album and a wicked avatar. Well done!
------------------------ Vive La Sainte-Flanelle!
Thanks system, you and 2cents have great taste
I wonder how much a Kovalev or Koivu jersey would cost now that they'll be gone...I always wanted one, particularly Koivu.
Apparently the Koivu's are 50% off at the hall of fame
Saku Koivu merits respect and admiration for his contribution to Les Canadiens de Montréal as a player, a captain and a person. I don't believe we should denigrate anyone in defending an opinion.
As a player he had many qualities as many HIO bloggers and columnists have stated. As a person we all recognize what he had to overcome not too many years ago with his bout with cancer. He truly was a special person and this part of his legacy will never be forgotten by ALL true Habs fans.
Although Koivu wasn't the captain I expected in the past year--I was left disappointed with his apperent newtrality in the wake of what was an on-going plague in the dressing room--my opinion is expressed with a very strong dose of respect for the man and the player.
To the Koivu nay-sayers, who while having the right to express an opinion, let me say that you should show respect in doing so. I defend your right to having a different opinion as I do when I compare how I perceive Koivu with the opinions of others. But don't do it without respecting him; remember when not a single fan at the Bell stood up and celebrated Koivu's return to the line-up when he had just completed what many considered something miraculous in doing so after his bout with cancer.
This is what the pundits are celebrating more than anything: the Boones, Fishers, Stubbs and Hickeys who we read and listen to with passion.
It's all about compassion. I remember writing an E-mail to Stubbs about my take on Koivu. It wasn't what many would agree with but I expressed my thoughts and feelings with respect and compassion I believe. Dave responded with interest and appreciation to my opinions and thanked me for it.
So please be grateful and compassionate. He was more than a captain, he was very human. Too introspective but never condescending or laking respect. I found him to be a person of strong moral and intrinsically a very fascinating person with facets of his personality I believe many of us would have enjoyed exploring further.
His time has come and passed it appears. The same thing happened with Carbo, Keane, Damphousse and Turgeon just to name a few. Others, who didn't wear the C also had to move on, the likes of Lafleur, Robinson, Harvey, Moore, Marshall and Goyette. Nobody is protected. Nobody is sheltered.
I consider Koivu's departure to be similar to so many others. What I don't accept is the diatribe and personal attacks on his person. I would say the same thing about Latendresse. Koivu's contribution as a person who had to overcome what so few players have had to in their careers merits our respect and admiration, despite our opinions of him as player and or captain.
Best of luck to you Saku. God speed.
Georges Drouin
That's awesome! I'd say those people rock.
Doubt anything will come of it, but the gesture is nice at least.
In Quebec there is no such thing as a "nice" protest. Unless it effects direct and immediate change, the gesture is pointless.
If anything I think it actually decreased chances that Kovalev will be back. Gainey's not going to cave to public pressure (twice in 2 weeks).
exactly. If Gainey offers Kovalev a contract now, then the people around the league will think less of Gainey and try to push him around.
Thanks for the tip about parking overnight at the arena DAVE!
I will just roll with the punches, I have not just taken off with bed in back of truck and not a care in the world for more than 45 years. My hair is much shorter now days. It was Andree's idea to start with, but maybe she would like to get rid of me for a week.
I'll find a swimming pool somewhere or Shower over at Boone's!
HAHAHAHA, Koivu is Gone, Who cares about you Koivu fanboys. He GONE get over it, get another Jersey, A new name... Its over, Gainey doesn't care what you guys want, he just wants to make the team better. He got a frenchie in the draft so people would just shut up and let him do his job. I can feel Gainey sometimes, he has to put up with angry Koivu fanboys knocking on his window, threatining him so he resigns Koivu. I don't see people going on a march for Koivu, Oh yeah, its people who actually know something about Hockey. Bash this post as much as you guys want but in the end, KOIVU IS GONE AND GOOD RIDANCE!!!!!!
I'm not going to bash the post, if he's gone so be it..........but you sure are a ahole!!!!!
Can you back that up in what you are saying? I cannot believe Habs Fans would go to that extent to persuade BG to sigh SK or else? I think BG would have contact the authorities to deal with this problem if it did happen? Get a life and grow up will yeah. Get over it and the Habs are a little better than they were last year.
Try to find the light badbalance, sometimes it is right in front of your nose, just have to look. Much more fun and enjoyment if you could ever get off the dark side my friend!!
I often find the light reading one of your many posts good sir!
Nice words HH, thanks
badbalance
In case you hadn't noticed, Kovalev is gone, too.
Look dude, that's harsh, and that's coming from the someone who was all over Koivu last season when he came back from the IR. The point of the matter is that the team needed to redefine itself and that meant without Saku. Mostly EVERYBODY that I speak to accepts this. Hardly ANYBODY says good riddance. Have some respect for the man and people here because you're sounding like a classless nimrod!
Koivu fanboys are a waste of space... but Kovalev fanboys aren't? haha... i'm glad nobody is a badbalance fanboy...
please put the keyboard down and go refill your ritalin script.
LOL, FOOL!
The march was fror that waste of space, Kovalev!
If he is such a waste of space Teach, why does the great #4 even say if Kovalev is back, he should be Captain. I guess there is alot more to Kovy than most of his bashers can see...even Jean can see the value in having Kovalev.
let kovy walk and let gainey do his thing! Nobody knows what happens behind closed doors! Except for those who are actually part of the team. I am sure gainey knows who must be let go, and who would be good to keep more so then the people who just sit and watch what happens on the ice! Besides, gainey gave him an offer and he chose to check out other teams. Let him walk and use what is left to pick up a big 2nd line center. :)
Kovy and Markov invited to cap for TEAM RUSSIA.
http://www.rds.ca/jo/chroniques/277809.html
400$ a jersey...no wonder their marching!
the guy was a poison on the ice, a hog with the puck and he did more damage than good.
au revoir.
bring on a TEAM.
The price of a replica jersey is insane at $129.99, let alone an authentic one.
There was a family from England in shock at the cost of one when I was at the gift shop in the Bell Centre last fall....I joked that the team's owner was paying off the loan that he had on Liverpool FC so he was overcharging us!
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Ya! The Habs Rule!
Your just mad he completely outplayed/outshined/out leadered Koivu in his time here. Your just made he deserves captaincy over Koivu. Who's the only one who actually did something in the playoffs.... Who's the one who scored most points for our team second year in a row?
Tell me who was the better player?
Kovalev played 314 games by scoring 103 goals and 161 assist for 264 points during the regular season. In the Playoffs he played 33 games by scoring 17 goals and 14 assist for 31 points.
Koivu played 445 games by scoring 106 goals and 253 assist for 359 points during the regular season. In the Playoffs he played 25 games bt scoring 6 goals ans 19 assist for 25 points.
You can check it out on www.canadiens.com
Care to tell us all WHY he deserves the captaincy over Koivu? You can't just take it away from someone who's been the captain for 10 years and give it to someone else because they get more points... Do you know how Kovalev is with other players? Do you know how he is in the lockerroom? Do you know anything about his character other then he is number 27? And about him leading the team 2 years in points, in 07-08 that was great work. But last year he beat a DEFENSEMAN by 1 point. You can hardly call that an accomplishment. We're not the islanders and it's not normal for a DEFENSEMAN to have the most points on the team...
Don't get me wrong, I really love both Koivu and Kovalev and I wish they'd both be back!!
Well when were not getting anywhere in 10+ years, And that span of time we had 1 captain... It's kinda time for a change because Koivu can't step up for us like 90% of the captains in the league can. Heart alone is not enough. Do you know how Kovy is with other players? do you know how he is in the lockerroom? Last i saw Kovy as a captain we were on a roll. Koivu comes back and we start going on a bad losing rampage. Kovy, as a captain. If he can lead well he would make an impact on the team. We need someone who can be a leader and who can step up on the ice and score key goals... Koivu isn't the man for that, Kovy is. Koivu is done DONE DONE DONE, get over it and accept it he's not comming back for sure, I dont know about you but Koivu's time to prove something here is up, and he is no longer wanted on this team, the only reason why he stayed sooo long with us is because Gillete's son is friends with Koivu and basically guaranteed him a spot on this team. Im telling you, if Gillette was still Owner we'd still see Koivu on the team...
Are you really trying to blame the habs mediocre performance of the last 10+ years on the captain and the captain alone? Are you saying just because a team has a high producing captain they should win the cup? Last I checked there’s one 1 team that can win and more then 1 team has a high producing captain.
As for stepping it up, Koivu is the 1 player who stepped it up year after year for us when there was a game on the line, especially in the playoffs. Just take the 07-08 playoffs as an example, Koivu missed a few games yet was still top 2 in scoring…
If you believe anything the media reports, which we all do, then I’d say Kovalev isn’t that great with other players. He is a horrible role model considering he shows up when he wants, and it got to such a bad extent this year that he was told to sit out 2 games. What a great lockerroom performance that is!!
As for being on a role when Koivu was out of the lineup and Kovalev wasn’t, I guess you’re one of the people who think Kovalev got more points when Koivu was not dressed then when Koivu was… This got to such a bad extent during the 08-09 season that during one game RDS posted stats of Kovalev’s points without Koivu in the line up vs Kovalev’s points with Koivu in the line up and he was BETTER WITH KOIVU.
Gillete’s son is friends with Koivu? Where do you dig this stuff up man? Did you ever see Bon Cop Bad Cop? Well in the opening of it the radio host says ‘don’t give me that brother in law crap’….
I’m not saying Koivu is the most offensively talented player in the league, but I am saying he is GREAT for the team and nobody in the right frame of mind can deny that. I’m not saying it’s necessarily the case for you, but some people have clouded opinions of others because of a little language issue…
When you get back from lunch let me know...
lol
Some corrections;
"You're" (you are), not "Your."
"Mad", not "made."
If you are going to try to insult someone, you really need to work on your grammar and spelling. On top of that, Kovy would have been out-scored by a defenseman had that defenseman not missed the last several games due to injury.
As for "deserving" the captaincy, that's crap. He was offered a contract, and instead of accepting it, as one truly deserving of the captaincy would have done, he tried to use it as leverage to obtain a better contract elsewhere. Not very captain-like, as far as I'm concerned.
While on the topic of jerseys. Here is my funny story:
When I was much younger, Russ Courtnall was at a BBQ at my next-door neighbors house... I live in Victoria, so it’s not often we see hockey players, let alone ex (or current) Habs. I was so stoked to see him there, I went home and grabbed my Habs jersey for him to sign. Even though he wasn't playing for the Habs anymore (still in the NHL), it was pretty cool to meet him and have him sign my jersey.
I quickly rushed upstairs and put it in my room and went back to the BBQ.
When the BBQ was over I went home, and wanted to go and check out my jersey... only, I couldn't find it. I searched my room and figured it was missing. I went downstairs and saw that my mom had washed it!! She says, "You had some markings on your shirt, so I cleaned it all off... you should be more careful next time!".
AAAAAHHHHHH! Thanks mom !
It pays to have a lock on your bedroom door. LOL
Ouch!!
"responsibility"
No Kovalev, only Koivu!
come on sign the breezer....
You are all going to be pissed in Koivu signs with Boston. He played with Ryder, Recchi and Begin. He also has a coach that believes in him. JULIEN. Now that would be a kick in the N.ts if that ever happened? Geeze!!
Biggest mistake Bob made, firing Julien.
"responsibility"
too bad they already have 3 very good centers
savard
krejci
bergeron
unless bergeron is moved to the wing but he's their best faceoff man
- thanks for everything, saku koivu.
Bergeron sucks though, he plays so stiff. I mean its boring watching that wooden log skate around the ice
and Begin, don't forget Begin
--- we need a kovalev
I was smart, I bought a Richard jersey :-) sure to last !!
just need to change the avatar ;-p
I wasn't... i bought a koivu and higgins jersey... i might have to go old school for my next one.
"How would you like a job where when you made a mistake, a big red light goes on and 18,000 people boo?" Jacques Plante
I just bought a Koivu jersey in January... a really nice one too.
I will wear it proudly... even if he isn't on the roster. My tribute to the classiest Hab in 20 years!
Anyone want to buy my Higgins jersey?
That is why I went with Markov.... goes well with my Chelios!
Mr.Boone Maybe you can ask the dozens of girlfriends he left behind, lol. Maybe not cuz we need you.
The only safe bet is to get a jersey of a player who's number is already retired. Heck I wont even risk putting an avatar of a current Hab lest he be traded. Poor crabvader. It gets even worse for guys like captainK4life. All those HIO user names based on ex-Habs. What are they gonna do now?
<--- Go classic instead!
If you buy a jersey, go classic and don't get a name put on it. I've got a pair of home and away CCM Center Ice kits with #10 on them. It could be for Guy, Teddy Harris or Tom Johnson for that matter. Why limit yourself to just one player?
I loved Higgy but never had the testicles to buy a jersey with his name on it. You are a fan, Boone.
We have lost a lot of players i liked mostly becasuse they at least seemed like nice guys.
Ryder, Komi, Higgy, Saku, Steve,
"responsibility"
Mike I gave up on player jerseys after Richer and Chelios were traded...
i'll give ya 4 bucks for it.
hey guys...what about maxim afineogenov..it would be fun to watch him skate in circles
--- we need a kovalev
What about Kotalik? He's big, can skate, has decent hands, will come cheap and he's from the same country as Pleks.
hmm... i was just jokin but you have a good idea ... i would be be down for that. he shoots right as well
--- we need a kovalev
Since Bob did all his shopping early, been quiet rumour front for the Habs - Hockey-Bums reports that Beauchemin should be signing tomorrow, primarily down to either Toronto or Montreal.
I think if it is Montreal, Beauchemin would effectively end the return of Kovy/Koivu/Tanguay.
I would much prefer Beauchemin, add him & the D is dramatically better then last year, providing a more stable environment for Price to gain experience.
I think it sure would have been nice to have Kovy - but maybe it is time to move on.