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posted by Pat Hickey at 11h50 EST on Oct 21
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Is it true that SK74 & Gomez got into a fight at Gomez place?
SK74 maybe another wasted talent by probably one of the worst teams in the NHL in player evaluation and development our Habs.
Pierre McGuire is that you? :) Although i agree we need help in that area.
BG's conversation with SK probably when something like, kid I've tried to trade you but nobody wants a snot nosed, outta shape, cry baby who hasn't ever scored his age in points. Why don't you go back to where you belong, play hard and prove you can crack 20 goals in the NHL. At that point we will either play you or trade you for something more than a day old donut at Tims. :)
Day ol`s are way underrated!
1 word...Microwave!
I think Sergei will be traded...
So what are the lines tonight, is Lapierre playing wingman or what?
good hate al strachen the beedy eyed loud mouth comb over jerk, good ridence.
sergei is prima donna who thinks he's wayyy better than he is, young punk with a yo yo yo young punk attitude. bob see's he has talent and doesnt want another ribiero incident im sure so is tippy toe-ing with sergei.
there are a few more players who need a reality check and should be sent to the farm to ride the buses and eat fast food on the road. like latendresse, too comfy now, thinks he's a vet and doesnt have the hunger anymore. dags is another one who needs a wake up call to the farm to shake his tree.maybe andrei koz too.
we are playing a full 60 mins and competing everY shift, good things wil continue if this happens.
GO HABS GO !!
IF sergei was to be called up do you think it would AK46 better? or the same?... Do you think bob talked to Andrei about it or what?
I cant make heads or tails about sergei. If he would have just kept his mouth shut the first time he would already be playing as our top 6 forward. This is just another relapse. Sergei will be kept in hamilton for at least another month. Where he will either be called up by the CH or traded.WE misewell trade him trade him a draft pick or something for a legitimate top 6 forward like frolov
Which GM would give up a legitimate top 6 forward for a trouble-making propsect like SK who can't even crack the Habs lineup. If you were a GM would you make that trade?
Just bring the freaking guy up already and send Dags down. We need some scoring.
Balsillie first, now Strachan. Any chance the Leaves can make Alain Chantelois disappear?
http://www.tsn.ca/columnists/dave_hodge/?id=295674
dave hodge wants to know what was Gainey"s best move???
should be interesting.
I think we'll have a better idea by the end of the year on this one...
By any chance, did anyone spot BG and SK at the old port last night?
BG does his best talking there :)
I'm sure he's thinking, oh brother, not again...
here's to 1000 posts! make it happen boys!
on a side note, team is playing with more confidence now, lets hope it translates into a win tonight
The K brothers have no differences to other New Young immigrants from Belarus. Language, culture, friends, misunderstandings... It's more difficult for international players to handle non-Hockey matters than NA born players, especially young players.
Communication is the key when dealling with Non-Hockey matters. An expert of negotiation is also an Artist of compromise.
Completely off topic but I thought you guys might enjoy this:
Ontario Judge makes unprecedented ruling
TORONTO, ONTARIO (CP) -
A seven-year-old Toronto, Ontario boy was at the center of a Toronto city courtroom drama yesterday when he challenged a court ruling over who should have custody of him.
The boy has a history of being beaten by his parents & the judge initially awarded custody to his aunt, in keeping with child custody law & regulations requiring that family unity be maintained to the degree possible.
The boy surprised the court when he proclaimed that his aunt beat him more than his parents & he adamantly refused to live with her. When the judge then suggested that he live with his grandparents, the boy alleged they had also beaten him.
After considering the remainder of the immediate family & learning that domestic violence was apparently a way of life among them, the judge took the unprecedented step of allowing the boy to propose who should have custody of him.
After two recesses to check legal references & confer with child welfare officials, the judge granted temporary custody to the Toronto Maple Leafs, whom the boy firmly believes are not capable of beating anyone!
Thanks for the laugh!!!
If Sergei would just focus on working hard... I have no doubt he would be back in the lineup in Montreal.
Focus on playing within the team's system and I'm sure there's a spot for you Sergei. Not sure if you want it anymore.
I think it's a toss up... maybe there was positive news for Sergei, meaning "Yeah, you're gonna get called up soon dude"... or "I've almost got something worked out to send you somewhere"...
Or Gainey might have said... "Sergei, I'm a gonna kick your ass"....
- Yves -
Blog - http://yvesonhabs.com
Twitter - http://twitter.com/yves_on_habs
Do Habs Fans know fore sure that BG will trade SK74? This kid is just 22 years old.
Did BG tweeter SK74 noodle just a little bit? I wonder what plans BG has for SK74? Something had to be positive for SK74 to return to the farm team. Just have to wait and see. Habs should win tonight against NYI. NYI won in a shootout last night over the Canes. Mark my words that Halak gets the start tonight. You heard it here first on HI/O. Go Habs Go!!!!
This is what the management should have done when SK walked out the first time. It appeared that SK has misunderstood the arrangement and thought that he was lied upon by the team. The first rule of good management is never mislead an employee.
Now that we all know this face to face meeting between Bob and SK. We'll see what happens next. I think Bob will trade him during the season to at least get something back.
I hope he won't follow Grabovski's example and join the Laff.
Where will SK74 end up too? That's the million $$$$$ question?
It looked like Hickey was going for a thousand posts there for a bit.
I think we H I/O addicts can be proud of ourselves, nearly 900 posts on a topic when a game wasn't involved.
- I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
I wonder if our bosses would be proud... hmmm....
(I should point out I work for myself.)
--------------------------------------------------- `Could this team miss the playoffs? Who knows?' - Bob Gainey on the new Habs.
R U entitled to a break? Of course U R!!! Take a long and serving break by making your comments to HI/O. Cheers
OK... don't get me wrong here... but have we outscored a team in regulation yet? I worry that things can get a lot worse.
We sure haven't! We also haven't had a two goal lead yet.
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But we HAVE improved. :D Remember how lucky we were to win in Toronto and Buffalo? Each game since Vancouver has improved for us. We used to get outplayed the WHOLE game.
I agree, I'd just like to see the team start cashing on all it's chances. Cammalleri could have 10 goals by now if he wasn't snakebitten, he's had so many chances.
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Gionta must have hit a dozen posts so far this season, and Plekanec has set a few people up with almost certain goals only to have them misfire.
"I went to see a fight the other night...And A hockey game broke out!" ~Rodney Dangerfield~
Yeah I read that earlier. You're probably right. I am after all, going on memory instead of actually looking back at what was said. Either way, Bergeron shouldn't have been on the ice after that, because he was terrible, and he was an injury risk. When he got elbowed by one of the Thrashers on his next shift and his helmet flew off the first thing I thought was "there goes Gainey's latest signing for a couple months".
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"I went to see a fight the other night...And A hockey game broke out!" ~Rodney Dangerfield~
Agreed about the nice civil discourse. Hablifting was also a treat to talk to tonight. I'm also cautiously optimistic about this team, I think we have the pieces to be competitive if we build up the chemistry that Martin believes we can build up, here's hoping. As far as the possibility of two lottery picks, oh if only we could somehow swing that! Unfortunately I don't think we have anything besides Markov that could pry that Toronto pick from Boston.
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Deep down I sure hope your deep down hopes don't come true.
Anyhoo, left a few questions afore headin to work and lo!
"Lord Bugs Potter has a few questions. The answers are, 1)yes, Tanguay is healed from his shoulder injuries. At least that is what he, his people and the Lightning are saying. 2)The Vinny trade rumors are certainly squashed for right now. But check back in December and analyze how the team and Vinny are doing. 3)And management is very happy with coach Rick Tocchet's methods."
Pretty basic, I know, but hey, I'm a Mtl boy. Do with it as you will...
Je suis
Sieur Bugs Potter, écuyer. Major-général du dépôt de munitions Fort Gainey, contre-amiral du torpilleur de classe-II Sainte Flanelle, et sous-secrétaire du ministère de la Défense Tricolore.
So Sergei is either on the block for any takers or Bob has assured him that his spot back in Montreal is waiting for him.
Im not sure which it is but I dont think he has much trade value and we do need him playing up to his ability and staying out of trouble. So Im 50-50 on which it is.
SK74 out west for Arythukin (R2KIN). Trade a Russion who isn't living up to his potential for another Russian who isn't living up to his potential...but at least R2KIN has size, and can hit (just ask Tanguay)!
This is what Laviolette, TSN's newest anaylist/fired coach who cant find a NHL job, has to say about the Kozlov hit on Gomez:
No suspension. The penalties served the purpose. And if that wasn't enough, Scott Gomez answered the question himself. It was hardly a push and also, it looked like Gomez may have propelled himself a little bit.
No one seems to get it, the rest of the league has figured the habs out. Just knock down Gomez like they did to Koivu and they can shut the team down. Gomez is so small it doesn't take much, even the other teams' smallest players can beat up on our 16 goal a year superstars! And I agree with the other poster the other day, our team makes the worst NHL goalies seem like superstar goalies! Heck we could probably convince the other teams to play elementary school goalies and our 16 goal a year superstars probably would just as they do now pass the puck to the goalie!
I guess he thinks that late in a close game when the Habs were on a 5 game loosing streak and the pressure was mounting and Gomez is forchecking and trying to force a turnover he has time to worry about "propelling himself a little bit" into the bordes to try and get Kozlov in trouble.
It's a shame, I like Laviolette but he's dead wrong. Shoving a clearly off-balance player into the board from behind should be an automatic suspension.
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I agree, but I think in this case, Gomez stumbled trying to recover from the shove. Semantics, I know, but I don't think it was a vicious hit by any means. There was a lot more intent to injure by Armstrong, and he didn't even receive a minor penalty. It reminds me of a hit by O'byrne against the leafs last year, where O'byrne was ejected for elbowing, because the leaf player stumbled as O'byrne hit him, and had his face driven into the boards. O'byrne was given the game misconduct, but no further discipline.
Had it been a habs player guilty of the cross-check, I would definitely feel that no suspension was warranted, and judging by the look on Kozlov's face as he let Gomez throw punches, he regretted the action, and I don't believe that there was any intent to hurt Gomez. It was just a minor penalty gone wrong. Now, had Gomez been hurt, I would feel a LOT different.
Definitely no intent to injure by Kozlov, he's not that kind of player, but I think the league has to have a zero tolerance policy on hits from behind. Kozlov should have seen the numbers on the jersey and NOT pushed because of where they were on the ice.
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I'll agree with that. I guess in my opinion, the priority should be in getting the head shots out of the game. Things like the hit on MAB, and on Toews tonight.
I think the one on Toews tonight was legal, especially since Toews himself said he had his head down. Also he seemed to injure his torso on the play, not his head. I only saw it once though so maybe it was worse than i thought.
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For me though, it all comes back to respect. Jonathan Toews is tough as nails (although I know his injury record wouldnt indicate that) and a good canadian boy who believes in the physicality of hockey. I'm not surprised that he would say that he had his head down, and has to be more careful.
However, he was skating up ice, and Mitchell was coming out of the box. Toews had no way of seeing mitchell coming, and mitchell didnt just knock toews off the puck, he checked toews with intent to injure. Same thing with the Weight hit on brandon sutter, and the dion phaneuf hit on kyle okposo. Legal or not, they just werent necessary. I know it's hard to create a penalty for these kinds of hits because you don't want to take hitting out of the game, but the players have to respect each other. Im sure Dion Phaneuf wouldnt be happy if someone caught him with his head down, and ended his career, so he should take that into consideration when he's lining up a vulnerable opponent. Same thing with colby armstrong. He looks for small guys along the boards down low in the defensive zone, barrels in from the blueline, and drives his shoulder into the unsuspecting players head with clear intent to injure. There is no need for that in hockey, and life is never the same after you've had a severe concussion.
i do not think the hiot on gomez deserves a suspension, but at the same time recall pleks got two games last year... but one can argue either way - he already got a five min in OT - that's a sever penaly... but also since a five minute major was handed out why not suspend?? let's just win games one at a time and move on!!
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What a hit on Toews:
http://watch.tsn.ca/nhl/#clip226357
Disgusting.
I don't see how that doesn't fall under "attempt to injure". It's not part of the game, despite what the open-ice hit keep-your-head-up apologists might say. And now my Hawks are without one of their top guns.
This may come across as unpatriotic, but I hate Vancouver almost as much as I hate Toronto.
---Chorske's Rule #1: as the Habs' lead in any given game increases, the probability of a HIO poster predicting an imminent Stanley Cup championship approaches one.
Devastating. Hate to see that. Soon enough, someone will be seriously injured, a la broken neck, or even worse, someone is going to die. The players are just so much bigger, stronger and faster then they used to be, and the rules have to be changed. I just hope it's not too late when they do.
JV - Agreed. It's a waste of time to debate the legality of the hit. It's the total lack of respect out on the ice that is the real problem.
Agreed. I just said that in a reply to berkshire above.
Its a shame that players cant put themselves in the other players shoes, and think about how they would like being caught with their head down and getting a serious concussion.
Did anybody count how many great scoring opportunities the Canadians missed yesterday.
I think there were 3 cossbars and 2 goalposts hit, as well as 2 or 3 open nets that either
Plekanec or Kostitsyn missed. I figure the score could've been 6, 7, or 8 to 1.
Don't count, too depressing! Don't forget the 3 or 4 Lats missed in just the first period.
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yup, forgot those.
Either this team will eventually start cashing, or it's going to be a LONG season.
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Watching the Ducks game, seems like with Pronger gone Niedermayer is ALWAYS on the ice. With the olympics this year he's going to be burnt out by playoffs.
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Thank you very much, Double-H, for that wonderful Kovy song (although the lyrics were kinda...sub-Bugsian, let's say).
Allow me to return the favour with a blast from the past.
Je suis
Sieur Bugs Potter, écuyer. Major-général du dépôt de munitions Fort Gainey, contre-amiral du torpilleur de classe-II Sainte Flanelle, et sous-secrétaire du ministère de la Défense Tricolore.
Kovalev's best performance all of last year, unfortunately in a game that didn't matter. My favourite was I think his first goal, where he got a breakaway, looked like he was going to let loose a bullet wrister and then just slowly shot it into the net.
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Je suis
Sieur Bugs Potter, écuyer. Major-général du dépôt de munitions Fort Gainey, contre-amiral du torpilleur de classe-II Sainte Flanelle, et sous-secrétaire du ministère de la Défense Tricolore.
Neither have I. I jumped right off the couch when it happened.
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Anybody in the mood for some Gainey bashing ?
You start.
He will go down in history as one of the Canadians worst GM's with "Peanut" a close second.
How's that?
are you kidding me? worse than rejean houle! give your head a shake!
Gainey wins on the count that he had a long more time to ruin the Habs.
timo bob didn't give away patrick roy for nothing like houle did and he didn't gve pierre turgeon away for a stiff like corson and a pylon like murray baron 2 of the worst trades in team history.
true!
you realize it's just kidding around, right?
i know timo i just wanted to stir the pot with you a little,how are you btw i haven't spoke to in a while! how was the habs game in calgary?
would have helped if they won, but on the personal level it was great. Was seating right next to the Habs bench, was on TV, yelled at Laraque to go out there and do something for F sakes (got ignored), met JimVinny and had some beers with him... good evening overall.
I love how you beaked Laraque, maybe you hurt his ego and that's why he hasn't fought since.
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Did it right after Stewart got beat up by Prust and Laraque just gingerly skated back to bench proud of himself for not fighting.
If he would just shut up off the ice I wouldn't mind so much, but the guy's mouth never closes.
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i agree timo i wish bgl would do more but there aren't alot of guys that will fight him and when he doesn't do that for us he's a waste in the lineup! i 'm glad you had a great time at the game i'm going to try and get up there the next time we play the flames .......i have an aunt,uncle and cousins there in calgary so i'm going to talk to them and make the arrangements and get there for a habs game again!
That would be great John. Not a cheap affair by any means of imagination though.
yeah i can imagine timo but i'm still going to spend the money have a little fun and enjoy the game and the city of calgary!
George doesn't want to fight anymore, thats beneath him now. He wants to be an advocate for helping stray
animals or whatever. Thats of course when hes not making commercials about alcohol .
Damn.. that's pretty good. I don't know if I can top that. Vive la next pyatiletka!
Strombo just announce that next week he'll be wearing (with much pain) a leafs jersey while appearing on tv to figure skate with kurt browning....me thinks George lost a bet recently I feel for him....that blue jersey would melt the flesh from my bonesPoor George, he's a die hard Habs fan who's already stuck in the big smoke, that's got to be humiliating.
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lmao I know
This blogger claims that Sergei got in a fight with Gomez and that's why he was demoted.
http://sport.ca.msn.com/chroniques/chroniques_mario_langlois.aspx?cp-doc...
is there some way to see this story in english? i can't read french........but would love to read it in english!
I don't know how true the Gomez thing is but there's gotta be more to SK than just missing a bus or getting yelled at during practice. I am sure lots has to do with his off ice behavior... the dirt will come out :)
Maybe Bob can trade SK and AK to Nashville for Bouillon.