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Ridiculous, Halak Still has a winning record, price shouldn't be allowed to start untill he's at least .500
Seriously though, I think this was pretty obvious. I don't know why Martin wont announce his starter untill game day.
lol
They call me Shane
It's not unusual for coaches to keep their choices secret until the last moment. There are good reasons for this. For one, their choice goalie may wind up with the flu on game day - for example. Also, it's a good idea not to even let the goalies know because it keeps them both sharp and at the ready. You wouldn't want the non-starter to go missing in action by slipping away to go to sleep in his hotel room now would you? But that just wouldn't happen with professional athletes now would it????
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I wonder if the other name in the trade to Edmonton is BGL? His best years were there and he is doing nothing for us but eating up cap space.
don't know if edmonton would be interested in big georges and his big contract, especially when they have stortini.
100th post!
GO PRICE GO. Show us what you got. Again, please.
Ex nihilo nihil fit
Allot of talk here about how much time Gainey has here. Maybe it's time to flush the toilet in upper management. The thing that is amazing is how Lou Lamoriello can get the Devils to bring it consistently. What ever this guy is doing gets the job done. It's seems to start with the GM.
However, when is the last time Lamoriello got the Devils past the second round? Isn't that the mark of failure we give to Bob Gainey every day 100 times over? All we've done since Gainey came in is bomb out in the 1st or second round is all I hear from people on this site lately. When's the last time the Devils did anything in the playoffs?
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The Habs have not made it to the second round in 16 years.
The Devils?
Playoff Appearances: 20Overall Playoff Record: 121-102
Stanley Cup Championships: 1995, 2000, 2003
2009 -- lost to Carolina, 4-3, Eastern Conf. quarterfinals
2008 -- lost to NY Rangers, 4-1, Eastern Conf. quarterfinals
2007 -- defeated Tampa Bay, 4-2, Eastern Conf. quarterfinals
lost to Ottawa, 4-1, Eastern Conf. semifinals
2006 -- defeated NY Rangers, 4-0, Eastern Conf. quarterfinals
lost to Carolina, 4-1, Eastern Conf. semifinals
2004 -- lost to Philadelphia, 4-1, Eastern Conf. quarterfinals
2003 -- defeated Boston, 4-1, Eastern Conf. quarterfinals
defeated Tampa Bay, 4-1, Eastern Conf. semifinals
defeated Ottawa, 4-3, Eastern Conf. finals
defeated Anaheim, 4-3, Stanley Cup Finals
2002 -- lost to Carolina, 4-2, Eastern Conf. quarterfinals
2001 -- defeated Carolina, 4-2, Eastern Conf. quarterfinals
defeated Toronto, 4-3, Eastern Conf. semifinals
defeated Pittsburgh, 4-1, Eastern Conf. finals
lost to Colorado, 4-3, Stanley Cup Finals
2000 -- defeated Florida, 4-0, Eastern Conf. quarterfinals
defeated Toronto, 4-2, Eastern Conf. semifinals
defeated Philadelphia, 4-3, Eastern Conf. finals
defeated Dallas, 4-2, Stanley Cup Finals
1999 -- lost to Pittsburgh, 4-3, Eastern Conf. quarterfinals
1998 -- lost to Ottawa, 4-2, Eastern Conf. quarterfinals
1997 -- defeated Montreal, 4-1, Eastern Conf. quarterfinals
lost to NY Rangers, 4-1, Eastern Conf. semifinals
1995 -- defeated Boston, 4-1, Eastern Conf. quarterfinals
defeated Pittsburgh, 4-1, Eastern Conf. semifinals
defeated Philadelphia, 4-2, Eastern Conf. finals
defeated Detroit, 4-0, Stanley Cup Finals
1994 -- defeated Buffalo, 4-3, Eastern Conf. quarterfinals
defeated Boston, 4-2, Eastern Conf. semifinals
lost to NY Rangers, 4-3, Eastern Conf. finals
1993 -- lost to Pittsburgh, 4-1, Patrick Division semifinals
1992 -- lost to NY Rangers, 4-3, Patrick Division semifinals
1991 -- lost to Pittsburgh, 4-3, Patrick Division semifinals
1990 -- lost to Washington, 4-2, Patrick Division semifinals
1988 -- defeated NY Islanders, 4-2, Patrick Division semifinals
defeated Washington, 4-3, Patrick Division finals
lost to Boston, 4-3, Wales Conference finals
(AS COLORADO ROCKIES)
1978 -- lost to Philadelphia, 2-0, preliminary round
The Canadiens haven't made it TO the second round in 16 years? I must have been very drunk in 07-08 then, and several other years pre-lockout. The bottom line is that since the Devils won the cup in 2003 (Gainey's first year as GM), They've done absolutely nothing in the playoffs (according to the standards of many on this site). They haven't made it out of he second round a whopping ZERO times. I don't care about what the Devils did in the 70's, 80's, 90's or even early 2000's. The NHL is a sport of "what have you done for me lately", and lately the Devils are a dominant regular season team, and a middle of the pack flame out team in the playoffs. It's also not looking to get any better as Lamoriello the genius has done nothing in 10 years to try to find a goaltending prospect to take over for Brodeur when he retires.
Any criticism of Gainey's playoff record while pointing to the Devils since the lockout is a JOKE.
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My apologies, I meant PAST the second round in 16 years. People on this site are so unforgiving of errors...lol.
2009 -- lost to Boston, 4-0, Eastern Conf. quarterfinals2008 -- defeated Boston, 4-3, Eastern Conf. quarterfinals
lost to Philadelphia, 4-1, Eastern Conf. semifinals
2006 -- lost to Carolina, 4-2, Eastern Conf. quarterfinals
2004 -- defeated Boston, 4-3, Eastern Conf. quarterfinals
lost to Tampa Bay, 4-0, Eastern Conf. semifinals
2002 -- defeated Boston, 4-2, Eastern Conf. quarterfinals
lost to Carolina, 4-2, Eastern Conf. semifinals
1998 -- defeated Pittsburgh, 4-2, Eastern Conf. quarterfinals
lost to Buffalo, 4-0, Eastern Conf. semifinals
1997 -- lost to New Jersey, 4-1, Eastern Conf. quarterfinals
1996 -- lost to N.Y. Rangers, 4-2, Eastern Conf. quarterfinals
1994 -- lost to Boston, 4-3, Eastern Conf. quarterfinals
We are unforgiving because we know what we are talking about. :)
Still doesn't change the fact that New Jersey hasn't done any better than Montreal in the playoffs since the lockout.
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Lou inspires loyalty, Hell Larry Robinson has him doing his introduction when they retired his sweater. I beleive he still has Pat Burns on the team payroll listed as a scout.
When a reporter asked him how he managed the salary cap he said he would tell the players Brodeur makes X dollars then ask are you better then him??
Best quote of the great Lamoreillo..." rebuilding is the biggest joke in sports....good GMs don't ever have to rebuild".
Unless you're charged with cleaning up someone else's mess.
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Cheer for the crest on the front of the jersey, not the name on the back.
I know. I feel sorry for whoever takes over from Bobo.
OH and GO CANADIENS GO
WIN OR LOSE THEY ARE THE GREATEST FRANCHISE IN THE ENTIRE LEAGUE
They call me Shane
I understand that opinions are a right, but this fire Bob crap has got to stop. Do you see what's going on in Mtl? Do you see how many injuries there are? Do you see that only one of three lines are scoring?
Do you see what's going on in Boston?
How about how bad the Oilers are?
You can go on and on about almost every team in the league. It's parity!
It's a good thing that only a few don't represent the majority!
For every person like the top five trolls here, there 50 against what they say.
So yes, opinions are great, but they don't represent the masses and stop sounding as if they do.
Christ! If some of you guys are are here slamming Price, then you're here slamming Bob! Get a life!
They call me Shane
The problem is it's easy to stir up the malcontents after a bad loss, while the more positive fans are more subdued.
- I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
Studies show that no matter what you do and how well you do it, some people just want to complain and be butts. It's just in the nature of some people to be grumpy unsatisified malcontents as you say.
GO HABS GO!
Nice post. It sometimes seems like the lunatics are running the asylum. :-P
Go Habs Go!! "I can't hear what Jeremy (Roenick) is saying because my Stanley Cup rings are in my ears" - Patrick Roy
Just like in HIO!!!
"If ya smell what The Rock is cookin"
Not surprised to see that many are panicking and calling for everyone's and each other's heads...can't blame them at all...I will continue to have faith in the team, be disappointed in the losses and bad efforts and glad for the wins. I think they will be fine in the long-run (and before you guys get snarky, I mean long-run as in this season, not years from now or when more massive changes are made)...individually the players are or can be good, we have seen glimpses and flashes. This is not a question of gelling or # of games to get used to each other...but a rough patch of win 1, lose 1, look good 1, look bad 1....I have faith in this team but I understand all the lack of confidence in this team and the reactions and words of the downtrodden.
They will make the playoffs and be good for at least two rounds...despite the evidence SO FAR saying otherwise.
And before you put me down, this is not rose-coloured glasses....rose-coloured glasses would be saying that this year's team is the greatest thing since sliced bread and that the team is full of potential superstars who will all breakout this year...I'm just saying that they will be fine and we will be satisfied with their performance for this season as a whole.
GO HABS GO
"Even Roy can be run out of town after 2 Stanley Cups."
Funny that Team990 was broadcasting this background music to BG and his management. lol
Time To Say Goodbye by Andrea Bocelli and Sarah Brightman
NA NA NA NA .... NA NA NA NA ... HEY HEY HEY... GOOD BYE...
"If ya smell what The Rock is cookin"
Sarah Brightman, or as I'll always know her; Christine Daae.
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Really so because the song is about embarking on a new committment, and not at all about leaving a relationship. Are we extending Bob's contract and saying goodbye to the ridiculous unfounded criticisms?
Kind of like how Reagan would play 'Born in the USA' as an American Anthem, when it definitely was not intended as such.
Then you should complain to Team990: how come you were SAYing to get rid of BG but broadcasting opposite music?
This "fire Gainey" B.S is insane. Who is out there that would make a quality GM that's available to replace him? Answer is NO ONE! Why? Because they already are GM'ming another team.
Losers Even After Forty two Seasons
But we have thousands of ready applicants all over Montreal! Dozens if not hundreds on this site, how can you overlook all their expertise when considering a new GM?
- I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
NO ONE? There are 330 MILLION people in NA alone, there is not one person better qualified to do the job in Montreal?
Oh man, Bobo is seriously underpaid. He must be the most specialized individual on the planet.
GM's have to come from somewhere. That has been the problem, ownership has failed to think OUTSIDE the box when hiring management, and keep hiring retreads.
Im already thinking outside of the box. Fire Bettman!
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Old Triple X Lorne here is vying for the job of new GM.
His credentials:
He knew exactly three things Bob did wrong in retrospect perfectly well to include trading for Gomez, losing his car keys, and his choice of pet I believe.
He knows all and sees all!
Well Mark, as your favorite player is a 7.3 MILLION dollar 18 goal scorer, I find it easy to understand your love of Bobo. I am confident the rest of the season will be satisfying, and will exceed your obvious high standards.
There are a few of us who expect more from the Montreal Canadiens.
LOL!!
I want to see Gionta in DC on Friday! :(
Despite JM's lack of steady lines, I like Plex back with AK46, it's just a matter of finding that ever elusive 3rd linemate to solidify a halfway-decent scoring line. JM cannot gauge who can step up into this role with all of the indecisiveness that so evident to opposing coaches.
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what a nasty ugly environment it will be if habs lose tonight. this is a game in which we have to win and show domination. hoping for some trades if things don't turn around. that being said martin is not going anywhere and the only way gainey goes is he is asked to resign by molsons.
No more trades please. The last thing we need is more unfamiliar faces flying around the ice. Then we're gonna have to start wearing last names on the front of the jerseys too.
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something has to give one way or another.
Please Bobo no more of your insane trades! Tanguay?....for a first round pick and he leaves after ONE year for nothing. Schneider?....for a second round pick and he leaves after THREE months, Gomez?....don't even start on that one because I might hurl.
Please Bobo, do NOTHING, try not to do more damage. Just stay in your ivory tower away from the press, the fans and from critical assessment on your management.
Gonna be a looooooong night with Gionta away, let's pray for a speedy recovery.
Still hold out some optimism, Lapierre/Lats finally wake the hell up, AK starts shooting, team moves their feet without Gionta to get them going...
- I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
PleKosMetro line or PleKosKos line.
This will be one of those games that the Habs get outplayed but pull off a lucky 4-2 victory. They will probably be outshot 2:1, will be out-power-played, but get a few key shots from unlikely sources and then Gomez will end it with an empty netter. JM is clueless with the line combos, 20 games in and no stability, this isn't the culture this team needs, this team needs a real coach with fire in his gut, like Patrick Roy.
------------------------"Let this be a reminder that this organization will not tolerate failure." Dr. Evil
Great idea! Then under Roy's guidance we could had Carey Price run out and assault Roberto Luongo when the team lost 7-1 in Vancouver earlier this year! That would've set everything right!!!
- I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
Man I was hoping that he might be named head coach after him and the habs kissed and made up last year. I'm sure in the future he will be, but not right away
Don't go there, the last thing this club needed was ANOTHER head coach with NO NHL experience
I was also disappointed with JM. I was hoping for either Robinson (said he was never talked to) or Ted Nolan, both proven winners
We have enough of that type of player --- why would we be looking at Cogs! We need to get bigger and grittier! Maybe O'Sullivan would be a better choice - a bit bigger with more upside!
Also in watching the Edmonton game last night it sure would be nice to get Hemsky from them, a fellow Czech for Pleks to play with. Come on Bob Trade the Tits, Lats and a high draft pick - whatever they want! Nice to dream - I doubt if he's available though - first line player and all.
Also Souray sure looked good for his second game back --- like his confidence grit and shot. (just what were missing!!)!
If the Habs lose tonight to the WORST team in the league by far, I hope Bobo makes the honorable move and resigns.
The mood at the Bell will be ugly I think, with the crowd waiting for the worst to happen. I bet Bobo will be nowhere near the Bell.
Just outta curiosity...
Two years ago, everyone thought MTL was going to come in last place.
Some how, Bob puts together a group (perhaps out of sheer luck) that win first in the East. They were good team who worked, and exceeded their potential.
Last years team was a good team correct? I mean everyone had us set to win the East, Contend for the cup.
Players underacheived, and there were some key injuries. MTL stunk the season out.
This year, Bob for the most part upgrades alot of the players (depending on who you ask)...
Again, players aren't playing up to their potential... Again, MTL is facing injuries.
Can you explain to me how Bob could have done things differently? Or better perhaps?
Some posters do not think Bob has done a very good job, and that's fine. I'm just wondering what he should have done instead. The only thing I can get from what I"ve read on here is that he should have left the team more or less as is after last season...just tweaked it a bit. The fact is we don't know what went on behind closed doors. What we do know is Saku was ready for a change, and BG did try to keep Kovalev and Komi, to an extent.
What I wonder is do these people think anyone before Bob in the last 30 years did a better job? I don't and remove Patrick Roy from the equation, and there would have been no Cups in 30 years! The job is not easy and the fact that no GM has done very well at all with this team in 30 years is proof of that.
I, for one, really like that Bob managed to get Gionta and Cammalleri. Am I thrilled we picked up Gomez's contract? No, but it sure seems to me that it helped in getting the 2 UFA's to sign here....something that was not easy to do for a very long time.
Go Habs Go!! "I can't hear what Jeremy (Roenick) is saying because my Stanley Cup rings are in my ears" - Patrick Roy
Who says this team is an upgrade? I sure don't think so. The team that won the East was a good not great team, that benefited from a weak division and an incredible PP. Bobo dismantled that PP in his wisdom. The following year the team was devastated by injuries, sub par performances, terrible coaching and bad management.
Instead of fine tuning, Bobo panicked and tore the team apart. He took the reckless and unprecedented move of trying to build a team out of UFA's. This IS the team Bobo hand picked. If he is NOT responsible for what we see on the ice who IS?
Do things better? How could anyone have screwed things up things worse?
You are correct in that this is the team Gainey hand-picked....it is hard for us to consider the UFA move reckless when MANY on here and in the fanbase wanted most of last year's team out the door...it is hard for us to criticize the move when he did what we wanted and that was to gut last year's team...so you cannot say he did not fine-tune the team: adding Laraque and Tanguay WAS the fine-tuning...the whole team fell apart, so how do you fine-tune THAT?
If you want to complain that he did not get the UFAs that you wanted then go ahead but take into account the other factors. If you were one of the VERY few who wanted to try again with last year's team, then I find that hard to believe because you were not thrilled with that group either....
"Even Roy can be run out of town after 2 Stanley Cups."
Again, if you doubt the veracity of my comments simply go back and read my postings. I called for the firing of Carbo, as I believed that he was the single biggest problem with that team.
I never called for the dismantling of that team, and I never believed that there were so called "bad apples" infecting the franchise. I never believed Saku was a bad captain, in fact he is my fav player.
You will find the ONLY people I criticized were Carbo, Gainey, Breezer and at times Price. I hated the Gomez deal the moment I heard about it, and stated such. I like Cammy and Gionta but they are not what we need, which is SIZE up front. I admit to loving the deal for BGL and I don't know what happened to him.
Like he said above - he could have resigned. But the only way things would get better if the Habs brought it competent hockey people interested in winning, not full of personal agendas, buddy-buddy way of doing things.
Hahaha, good old Timo gets right to the point! Exactly, the BEST thing Bobo could have done last season was resign.
Why, which position is Gainey going to play?
I cannot understand the hate-on for Gainey. He has to make management decisions, yes, but there are thousands of factors out of his control.
Players that he may want have to be available. They have to want to play in Montreal. He has to respect the salary cap for the entire team. Etc etc etc.
I think Bob has until the end of the season. If no playoffs, he's gone. We see a slight improvement on our play without Markov, but that's not good enough. He has to find a way for this team to win with or without excuses.
Go Habs Go!! "I can't hear what Jeremy (Roenick) is saying because my Stanley Cup rings are in my ears" - Patrick Roy
So all is forgiven just to make the 1st round & lose!
"If ya smell what The Rock is cookin"
Let me start by saying "in my opinion" and I'm not saying I'm right.....
No playoffs = Gainey should be gone. Any other scenario would take a little more thought. If they're just plain bad in the first round and lose, maybe Gainey is fired. If they play pretty well, but Price has a meltdown like he did a couple years back against Philly, then it's a judgment call. Or......
No Eastern Conference Final minimun, and he's out. I'd be ok with those scenarios. I'm not sure I'd say No Stanley Cup and he's out though.
Go Habs Go!! "I can't hear what Jeremy (Roenick) is saying because my Stanley Cup rings are in my ears" - Patrick Roy
In an interview the other day Georges admitted as much.
He said All teams suffer injuries and it is up to the others to pick up the slack.
Why is this man not wearing an "A"
i agree! however, i think we cannot wait until the end of this season. something has to be done before that in regard to the coach. to be frank - i had a bad feeling about him from the start (taking into consideration his "success" with florida in the last few years).
It's hard to really judge Martin. He was very good with a very good team in Ottawa, and not so good with a crappy team in florida. I personally think he's a pretty good coach and I doubt he's the problem with the Habs.
That being said, I'm getting a bit anxious to see Guy Boucher up here from all I've heard. The players need to care and give their all every game.
I still have some hope this team can get it together, but only time will tell for sure. They've shown some very good flashes and 6 of their losses were by 1 goal. The world is not ending yet.
Go Habs Go!! "I can't hear what Jeremy (Roenick) is saying because my Stanley Cup rings are in my ears" - Patrick Roy
Good only gets U so far.
Martini never got them a Championship!
"If ya smell what The Rock is cookin"
I don't completely disagree, but a lot of very good coaches and even Jack Adams Trophy winners never won a Cup.
Go Habs Go!! "I can't hear what Jeremy (Roenick) is saying because my Stanley Cup rings are in my ears" - Patrick Roy
I hear ya!
IMO: A player can be great without winning a Cup. But a coach needs to take a team to the Cup to be great. IMHO...
"If ya smell what The Rock is cookin"
Then there's Jean Perron :-P
Go Habs Go!! "I can't hear what Jeremy (Roenick) is saying because my Stanley Cup rings are in my ears" - Patrick Roy
Honestly, i think we should lose tonight, carolina will get the win in regulation, the crowd will boo half way through the game, kostopolous will have at least a point in this game, and their goalie will be a stealer.....
we have been in this movie so many times......so what is the diff tonight.....?
In my opinion, latty should be a healthy scratch tonight as well....
If we lose tonight. We should really start to worry about our team. The lineup we have now we should be able to beat carolina.Lets see if this goes down. We really are done for if we loose.
MTL4Life
i'm already worried.
tony marinaro on the team 990 is reporting that we are talking trade with the edmonton oilers he states the player we are trying to acquire is andrew cogliano! tony said that s.kostitsyn and another player will be heading to edmonton for cogliano! what are your thoughts on this?
How about Dustin Penner instead?
i have a good trade, how about sergei from hamilton to montreal.
Aside from the fact that Tony is always biased to having more Italian players on the team, his sources are usually bang on. I am lukewarm on this one though. Another smallish, middle of the pack talented centre. I guess it would be an upgrade on SK depending on who the other player is. He is young, hungry, somewhat established and will probably pot 20-30 goals and 60-70 points when he reaches his prime.
I guess it all depends on what we give up for him.
Little Italy on the St. Lawrence heh ... maybe we could start call him Price-aroni so he fits in.
GO HABS GO!
Pricearoni I like! Maybe Gomez can change his name too to Gomezola and then instead of calling them the Little 3, we can call them the "Little Italy Line" :)
How about the
La Cosa Nostra.......
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id do that trade ...... but depends on who the "other" player is i can not see giving up to much for Andrew for SK seems about right as it is unless its Andrew and a pick for SK and Chipper
Cogliano has nev er scored more than 18 goals/ season with the Oilers and he's only 5'10". Would does Booby only go after smurfs who can't score?
well what do we have to trade for an established big winger? answer not very much.
i dont' mind the size thing. in all honesty smaller players just have to use their speed and they'll be fine. being taller doesn't mean more point production...
Bob can throw in Gill & BGL as well!
"If ya smell what The Rock is cookin"
DO IT BG,do it!
Height 5 ft 10 in
Weight 180 lb
Hopefully it will stop all the idiotic "Let's call up Sergei" posts....
I swear to god sergei is gonna go to edmonton and play with hemsky and horcoff and put up 90 points
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Apparently Sergei is good buddies with Sam Gagner too.. (London days)
it's obvious that as soon as Sergei (or any other talented player) leaves they have an amazing season and continue to do so.