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Halak, NHL's 1st star, earns fifth straight start
posted by Dave Stubbs at 12h04 EST on Dec 28
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It was an easy decision for who was the player of the week, no one in the NHL has been as dominant as Halak.
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http://berkshireonthehabs.blogspot.com/
CAREY PRICE IS BEING SCREWED BY THE HABS.
There. I said it. All of the “Habs unfair to Halak” talk over the last few days got me to thinking. And it was then that I realized that the situation is actually the other way around. It’s Carey Price who’s being held down by the team, not Halak.
Why? It’s simple. Money. And lots of it.
It’s common knowledge that the salary cap won’t be going up next season; in fact, it may very well go down. The Habs already have about 47-million committed to 14 players for next season, with essentially four UFA’s and seven RFA’s to deal with. Two of those RFA’s are Carey Price and Jaroslav Halak.
Price’s base salary this season is $850,000 plus a potential $1,350,000 in bonuses… potentially 2.2-million. If Price was to have a stellar year you could be looking at another team putting in an offer sheet of 4-million or more; money that the team might not have under next year’s cap if they want to sign Tomas Plekanec, who’s having a remarkable year.
On the other hand, Halak is having a great year… but is only making $800,000 with no bonuses. As an RFA, even if he was to receive and offer sheet from another team at the same rate of pay hike as Price, it would still cost the Habs less money in the long run. Therefore it’s in their best financial interest to ensure that Price doesn’t have a great statistical season. And any of Price’s bonus money left on the table from this season works in favour of the Habs, too.
But HOW is Price being screwed? You can’t just nail him to the bench for 80 games; that would be too obvious. Instead, you give him the tougher competition to help ensure that his record won’t be as good as Halak’s come season’s end. You give Price competition that includes Washington, New Jersey, Buffalo, Pittsburgh, Boston, Chicago, Colorado, Phoenix, Nashville, Vancouver and Detroit, all teams that are currently in position to make the playoffs. And you don’t give him all of the Islander, Leaf, and Hurricane games.
Of the recent 4-game win streak Halak got to play against the lowly Islanders (for the third time), plus the Hurricanes and Leafs, both teams that Price had already defeated this season. Price also beat Buffalo, but watched from the bench the next time that the teams met. Price got a win against Atlanta, but was again benched in favour of Halak. Yet Halak defeated the Islanders and got another crack at them. He beat the Leafs, and was back in for the next game against them. It’s the same thing with the Senators and the Sabres. Has Halak started against the Penguins since getting shelled by them?
How about how the blow-out games have been handled? In Vancouver, Price was pulled with 8 minutes left; not enough time to give the team a reasonable shot at scoring enough goals to hang Halak with the loss. Meanwhile, in Pittsburgh, Halak was pulled with 20 minutes left; still ample time for the Habs to possibly pot a few and stick Carey with another “L”.
You also can’t win if you don’t play. Of the 30 teams, Price is only 18th in games started, though no team has played more games (40) than the Canadiens.
Add up the evidence, and it’s not to difficult to connect the dots and see that it’s Carey Price who’s getting jobbed by the team, and not Jaroslav Halak.
Written with tongue planted firmly in cheek. Here’s your grain of salt.
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Cheer for the crest on the front of the jersey, not the name on the back.
Excellent presentation of a most bizarre concept. Well done Chuck! Now, work your magic on the Gomez conundrum. That's a story I want to see in print.
So we have a conspiracy in Montreal involving Price and Halak and Bobby?
Sorry Chuck, I don' buy what you are saying. The better goalie shows up at practices and at games and at this moment, that goalie is Jaroslav Halak but that could change in a heartbeat and Carey Price could be shining in coming weeks.
"We will win the Cup one day only with a mature Carey Price in the nets"
"GIONTA, HAMRLIK REJOIN HABS AS THEY SEEK FIFTH STRAIGHT WIN"
-TSN.ca
yes!
______________________________________ Lets name a Captain.
Hehe! Carey Pri(n)ce(ss)
Man what with all this divison with Price vs. Halak with the fans...imagine whats happening in the locker room....geeze!!
Really? Halak is named 1st Star of the week? Really?
How did he get that accolade?
Isn't he the back-up to some Princess?
Halak totally steals games by himself and there are those who think he's the back-up?
Please play Price tonite, puleez!!!!!
Still out of the playoffs, Ha! Ha!
Smabs are Pretenders and have been for 3 decades!
Where were you Saturday night you gutless piece of puke. People like you who constantly troll for a living should be banned from these sites. I guess you know by now your prediction of the Laffs being ahead of the Habs by Christmas was so wrong, you had to stay in your cave.
So lame, the Leafs were really close, so close I could smell the fear in Habnot fans from here.
Well, what do we have here, another angry fan venting because deep down he knows the sad sad truth....no team, no playoffs, no future & certainly no CUP!
Win on Saturday, give me a f.....g break! What a joke!
Smabs are Pretenders and have been for 3 decades!
You must play a lot of golf, for two reasons, your a leafs fan and you are looking at the standings like a golfer, lower the score the better. Pretenders for 3 decades? That could be but its better than 67,
http://www.nhl.com/ice/standings.htm?season=20092010&type=CON
Why dont they drink tea in toronto? Cause all the cups are in montreal, 24 cheers to you my friend
I stand for all those who would want to but cannot be there, on the side of the Highway of Hero's with our flag today. As we bring one of our fallen boys home. Plane lands at 2pm.
Thanks for doing this Ian!! :(
----- AMEN to the JM SYSTEM!!! go habs go -----
Agreed, nice touch Ian.
I'll be there too, Ian.
On another note, don't you think it is high time we brought our children home?
In case, you missed it below, Retromikey:
Happy holidays to you as well...all the best to you and yours in the Hammer for 2010.
If you thought I was being facetious with my statement about tonight's shots against count, then I apologize, it wasn't meant to be...my 40+ shot guess is based on the fact that the Sens have pumped over 20 shots in the first period alone in the past two games, winning one in a shootout, while being blown out in the other against some very good teams WITHOUT Spezza and Alfredsson; and knowing how porous the Habs' D is, it could be a shooting gallery beyond what we have seen lately. The rebound bit is because rebound control has been Halak's weak spot and the Sens have been crashing the net since their skilled guys are either out or not performing so all they do is throw pucks at the net.
I hope for a Halak win against the short-handed Sens....there is no excuse for the players in front of Halak to lose this one.
"Even Roy can be run out of town after 2 Stanley Cups."
If win% defines a goalie then why aren't we talking about Halak's ZERO win% against top 15 teams in the league?
Is this the #1 guy we are hoping to lead us? I guess if we play the Islanders, Atlanta, Toronto or Ottawa in the playoffs we will win... YAY!
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Win% defines a goalie not a team
Are you a Habs fan or a Price Fanboy?
Price will get his chance when Halak loses 2 or 3 in a row.
In my book, Price is not as good or better then Price. He's talented, but got a free ride... Halak worked his way.
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We have a new team!
Mike Komisarek: 0 - 1 - 1 (-7)
Gainey Haters bandwagon ---> This way
You can create a goaltending schedule allocating teams to Halaka and Price (top teams to Halak and "softies" to Price), and send it JM.
I respectful disagree with the timing. of this post. The man has been playing fantastic, let's leave it at that for the time being. These games against the lower teams in the league are important wins either way you look at it.
this is a fact not an opinion. Halak is 0-5 against top 15 teams.. you know the ones who will be making the playoffs. Even the bum Price with a 40 or so win% has more wins against top teams...
Yeah sure Halak is great and I hope he continues to play like this and win the cup for us. I am just using the same stupid argument others use to knock Price.
If win% is that important than we're doomed with Halak in the playoffs and we're doomed with Price in the regular season and the playoffs :) but hey if we just want the beat the Isles.... you know who is your guy...
Are Pittsburg, Washington & Detroit top teams?
Does the Princess get 50 shots against EVERY game?
Forget the playoffs & Forget the CUP!
Smabs are Pretenders and have been for 2 decades!
Halak is 0-5 against the top teams? And how many of those loses came after riding the pine and how many after playing a few consecutive games? Most goalies need to get into a rhythm before they play their best games.
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________ "This kid is going to win a Stanley Cup one day and hopefully I'll be with him when that happens" - Saku Koivu
I agree with this post, but I also think part of being a PRO is being able to play well no matter the circumstances. If Price starts on wednesday and sucks some people will say it's because he hasn't played in awhile. I say forget that, the man should be working his *** of in practice to have a good game.
I agree 100% (which is closer to Halak's save % than Price's)
------------------------"Let this be a reminder that this organization will not tolerate failure." Dr. Evil
If Gio and Hammer are back, then here's my starting lineup:
Jaro, Jaro, Jaro
1st: Cammy-Plex-AK46
2nd: Benny-Gomer-Gio
3rd: M-Cubed
4th: MAB-Lappy-BGL
D(1): Marky-Checker
D(2): Hammer-OB
D(3): Georgie-Turnstyle (until Paul Minus returns)
Healthy scratches: SK74, Dags, until our next injury occurs
------------------------"Let this be a reminder that this organization will not tolerate failure." Dr. Evil
Where is SK74? So far JM has more confidence on SK than Pouliot, to be honest.
I'll take Sergei on the 2nd line and Pouliot in BGL's spot
not that i'm not terrified when gill's on the backend in any 5 on 5 situation but:
gill needs to stay in the lineup always in my humble opinion. he's invaluable to our penalty kill. his enormous wingspan and chemistry developed with the other pk boys means he's gotta stay.
but god does he give me fits 5 on 5 sometimes (always).
So upon Mara's return, how do you alter the lineup?
------------------------"Let this be a reminder that this organization will not tolerate failure." Dr. Evil
They might as well switch up which D-men gets their `therapy days.` The overstacked blue line isn`t an unexpected situation, and just about all the guys back there could benefit from a bit of rest, whether ìt`s the older fellas like Gill, Spacek, Roman, Mara, or the smallish guys like Gorges and MAB, or O`Byrne who could benefit from watching from the press box once in a while and `thinking about what he`s done, and how it should be done.`
That's a very interesting suggestion, although it might lead to some dissention among the players that want to be out there every day. Some players are very superstitious and it might disrupt their momentum.
------------------------"Let this be a reminder that this organization will not tolerate failure." Dr. Evil
How about sitting O'Byrne and going with an all-veteran D?
"Even Roy can be run out of town after 2 Stanley Cups."
IMO, OB is a more impending force than Gill.
------------------------"Let this be a reminder that this organization will not tolerate failure." Dr. Evil
that's a really good question. i don't have a good answer, though i've thought about it alot lately.
deal mara? not that i don't like him.
I think Jaro should start every game until he loses 6-2 to Buffalo on Jan 3rd. Then Price can come back and play well against good teams... ;)
IS TSN report bogus?
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=303801
sorry just saw that Ayan_SB posted this below
Cammalleri
TSN is reporting that Brian Gionta and Roman Hamrlik are most likely playing tonight.
The article was posted at 11:25 am.
Gionta, Hamrlik rejoin Habs as they seek fifth straight win.
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=303801
You see an avg of ~45 shots a game and you think: "Wow, this team sucks defensively!"
But what if those shots are all coming from the boards? What if only about 10-15 shots are from scoring areas?
How come we win with only 20 shots?
Halak is a big part of this, no doubt about it.
But is it ALL Halak?
If your team makes it easy for your goaltender to save pucks (which we have) just watch how Gill parks himself on the sides of the net, covering his man so that the guy can't screen Jaro.
What about Spacek and Markov? If there is a rebound, they pounce like rabid wolves on it.
You can only say that the forwards aren't applying enough pressure in our zone but they DO collapse and take away any chance at a good shot from the slot.
We are getting outshot. Big deal.
Weren't we the ones saying we were going to win ugly games this year?
Suddenly the players have to play the way you or critics want them to play? They are winning at the moment.
Halak is making the saves he SHOULD make. Sure, he's made some great saves when called upon which is always key. The team has really adjusted their positional play in front of him since the beginning of the season. Don't believe me? Remember when all the pucks would ricochet off our defensemen between games 1 through 15? Maybe even 20?
The D are letting shots through, but they are helping the goaltenders SEE the puck.
There are a few mistakes, but what team doesn't make them?
As long as we can continue on this trend and our goaltender(s) can perform, who cares HOW we win? The playoffs don't care about HOW a team wins in the long run.
I will be disappointed if we start to lose, sure. Just know that right now, there is no reason to push the panic button. Leave that to JM and BG. Jacques Martin held a high intensity practice after last game; that's all you can ask for.
Same thing I've been saying for quite a while. The bulk of the shots against are low percentage. Last year Vokoun and Anderson were #2 and #3 over-all in save percentage. Geuss which team they played for? Now take a geuss as to who was their GM? Coincidence? I think not!!!
http://www.nhl.com/ice/playerstats.htm?fetchKey=20092ALLGAGAll&sort=save...
There's a method to this madness.
If it was Price playing those games, would your take still be the same? Just seems like every time Halak plays great, people say that it was the D doing thier job, and sure Halak faced 50 shots but there was only like 2 scoring chances and every time Price plays bad, well it was the D's fault for hanging him out to dry. It gets old listening to crap like that. Even when Halak steals game after game for us, there is always "that guy" that doesn't give him the credit he deserves. I'd rather have Halak in net stoping the shots he SHOULD than Price NOT stopping the shots he should.
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________ "This kid is going to win a Stanley Cup one day and hopefully I'll be with him when that happens" - Saku Koivu
Halak is 0-5 against top 15 teams int he league.. this might have something to do with it.
The same can be said about Price. When we lose, there are a few people who blame him every time for the loss. When Halak loses, we say it's the team's fault. You can't win this argument. There are irrational fans everywhere.
That's basically what I was saying after the Leafs game the other night. I thought they did an EXCELLENT job of clearing rebounds away, how many rebounds did you see the Leafs get to before a Habs defender? They also did an excellent job of keeping the shots to the outside and away from prime scoring areas.
The Leafs (and Kessel especially) will shoot from any and everywhere on the ice, their shot totals are the highest per game in the league but, they are laregely taken from low percentage spots on the ice.
The road game the night after Xmas is a killer on NHL players and to a man they will tell you that it's their least favourite game of the year. This squad was very well prepared for a game that they knew they weren't going to have much energy or jump in their step and they played a solid Devils style game, they got two early goals and then went to work making sure to keep things boring and slow, without allowing much by way of high tempo action or high quality shooting chances.
While they were hemmed into their end, sitting on the lead for most of the night, it was a better strategy than trying to rush end to end with their opponents on a night that such a strategy would have resulted in a landslide result the other direction. I thought in spite of the deceivingly high shot total against them, that it was their best defensive effort of the year thus far.
it all depends on how you see the game of hockey really.
take saturday's win for example:
the sports pages tell us that the better team lost and the toronto maple leafs deserved a better fate insofar as they outplayed the habs in every facet except the score.
but others will say that the habs were the better team on saturday: they scored three goals and the leafs two.
that's why there's so much cheerful debate in the game. there's more to the game than the score and there's more to a team than the sum of it's parts.
i tend to agree with you mate...we're being outshot but we're winning. ideally i'd like to win 16-0 every game and allow the opponents 10 shots on goal max like canada vs. latvia the other day. but that's not how it works.
I'm not 100% certain about this, but I think that coach Martin said, on his press after being hired, that he will reduce the quality of the shots taken by the opposition.
I've been telling everyone, that I've discussed hockey with, practically the same things you have said. We are giving up a bunch of shots, but they are piss poor shots and they are the worst shots, low percentage, that our team is offering them (to our benefit).
Another W tonight.
Good post Crabvader,I have to agree with you on the shots on net some are weak and Halak has alot of rebounds that let the other teams get more shots.He has made some splendid saves also.Lets hope for a great win tonight.
fire Gainey!
ha :) just wanted to get it out there; something's been missing this holiday season ;)
going to be really nice to see a full roster for the first time since october first.
seems like a lifetime ago.
with hamrlik and gionta back, i'd suspect the shots against will go down by about ten, but who knows?
Montreal will raise their shots by about 5 at least I'd say with Gionta in the lineup at least to compensate, Hamrlik will help keep the shots against down and Gionta can fire a few on net and vastly improve the 2nd-line offence.
- I shall always remember Captain Koivu. http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/
true, true.
i figured gionta with gomez and sk/pouiot on a line means more time spent in ottawa's zone. which translate's into less shots against.
plus hamrlik's no markov, but he's no offensive slouch either.
...Jaroslav Halak always has felt he should be a starting NHL goaltender. Now, he's making it hard for the Montreal Canadiens to keep him on the bench...
THAT'S THE STATEMENT!
He could break a personal best in his NHL career tonight. If he can hold Ottawa to fewer than 4 goals over 60 minutes, it'll be the first time in his NHL career that he's gone 5 consecutive starts keeping his opponent to 3 or fewer per 60 minutes in all 5 of them. Considering how much rubber he's faced in the first 4 games (close to 180 shots or 45 per game), that makes this PB mean that much more. The first sign of becoming a regular starter is being able to put a consistant string of solid starts together like this.
His PB remains at 4 games I guess.
This was a no-brainer. The way Halak is playing, it would be a crime against humanity to bench him. In other news, TSN is reporting that Gionta and Hammer will both be in the line-up tonight.
http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=303801
Jaroslav Halak named NHL's 1st star of the week
http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=511314
You guys should hire me lol.
After reading this chumps column, it seems like this article came from the Redundency Department of Redundency. This author has no reason to be making any form of opinionated comments, especially when he doesn't realize he is repeating himself just for filler.
------------------------"Let this be a reminder that this organization will not tolerate failure." Dr. Evil
Someone send that to the GMs as they get back to work after the trade freeze would they?
Cuz we're "show-boating" right. Do you have any grasp of the english language at all, or are you as dumb as you look in that avatar?
------------------------"Let this be a reminder that this organization will not tolerate failure." Dr. Evil
*pats you on the head*
After this one is the dreaded trip to Florida. The Habs just seem to stink up the joint down there, how bizarre is it that the only franchise in the NHL that the Habs have an all-time losing record against are the Florida Panthers, a team that's made the playoffs 3 times in 17 years now?
It's hard to play hockey when you are thinking about the babes on the Beach! :)
No room for hockey in Florida, and the attendance proves it.
They call me Shane
Any predictions on how many shots Ottawa is going to put up against Halak?
I'll say 38, at least I'm under 40.
"We will win the Cup one day only with a mature Carey Price in the nets"
They'll break 40 shots easily...shoot and crash the crease...Halak better control his rebounds well tonight.
"Even Roy can be run out of town after 2 Stanley Cups."
Happy Holidays to you forskis
"We will win the Cup one day only with a mature Carey Price in the nets"
Same to you, sir.
If you thought I was being facetious with my statement, then I apologize, it wasn't meant to be...my 40+ shot guess is based on the fact that the Sens have pumped over 20 shots in the first period alone in the past two games, winning one in a shootout, while being blown out in the other against some very good teams WITHOUT Spezza and Alfredsson; and knowing how porous the Habs' D is, it could be a shooting gallery beyond what we have seen lately. The rebound bit is because that has been Halak's weak spot, his rebound control and the Sens have been crashing the net since their skilled guys are either out or not performing so all they do is throw pucks at the net.
I hope for a Halak win against the short-handed Sens....there is no excuse for the players in front of Halak to lose this one.
"Even Roy can be run out of town after 2 Stanley Cups."
Playing a hunch, I'll say either 10 or 30 (based on the way you worded it)
The Sens are missing Alfreddson and Spezza, I say 25 shots tonight....and monkeys will fly out of my butt!
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They call me Shane
Really hoping that game-time decision is "Yes", could really use some fresh blood out there, more effort and more leadership is something this team could use of late.
Halak's earned this start naturally.
- I shall always remember Captain Koivu. http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/
I have 4 tickets available for tonight's game in Ottawa. $240 (Face Value) Each. Would sell 2. @bbogens me on twitter or email bbogens1@gmail.com
Where are the seats and is it $240 for the pair or per ticket?
Once a Habs fan, always a Habs fan
Sec 118, Row J, Seats 1 - 4, $240 each
Can't say the kid doesn't deserve it
Spacek will score it.
Edit: woops..wrong post.
Going for 5 in a row on the road against another weak team, go get em Canadiens!!!
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They call me Shane
halak #1 star in the league, just saw it on nhl.com.
Good for him.
As much as I love Price, you have to go with the hotter goalie and that is Halak.
Good decision by Martin.
By the way, what the heck is Therapy Day for Sergei?
"We will win the Cup one day only with a mature Carey Price in the nets"
He's been getting checked pretty hard the past few games...probably just to rest some aches and pains...
"Even Roy can be run out of town after 2 Stanley Cups."
I think Sergei is the 21st player to take a therapy day this year.
Relax, it has nothing to do with his attitude...sheesh you have a hate on for that guy eh?
Not really, just want the guy to perform hard at practices and games since many believe he is the better player than his brother Andre, which I strongly disagree.
Happy Holidays Teacher.
"We will win the Cup one day only with a mature Carey Price in the nets"
Let's debate away. Thats what this site is for. We get to argue until Halak is traded. So if we keep Halak playing 50% of the games, and he plays as great as he is playing now, then we are in a VERY good position.
Someone will offer him (hopefully) 2.5 million. We will get a 1st round and 3rd round draft pick. Plus with the others we will not be signing in RFA next season, we might end up with 2-3 more picks...
As much as I want a top 6 player to trade for, I do not believe it is in our best interests... We cannot afford to get someone like that in under the cap next season.
Pouliot should be given a proper chance for the rest of the season to become this player. We are getting into the playoffs and that will be about it. So let's prepare for next season.
But in the end, IS THERE REALLY ANYONE OUT THERE WHO BELIEVES HALAK WILL BE HERE NEXT SEASON? Regardless of how great he is playing, everyone (Habs decision makers) believe he is our superstar goalie of the future. Plus the less he plays, the less we can sign him for. Every dollar counts for next season.
Don't get me wrong, I love him like I loved Latendresse, and Kosto, and Corson, etc, etc... But the fact is we can't sign both. Biggest downside, is we will have to face him for the years to come. But then again, if you worry about how our players will do on the other teams in the future...Then I guess you have alot to say about Ryder, Lats, Ribeiro, etc, etc... Guess what? Other teams lose players too. How do you think Calgary feels about Camma right now? How about the Wild??? I bet they really hope Lats become a 30 goal scorer, cause Bergeron is making them wish they could go back in time....
There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey...
Most players that say get me the hell out opf here, are likely not going to opt to resign in the same place when they become free agents 6 mths later. Doesn't happen often, I can't think of any instances off hand.
TSN is saying Gionta nd Hammer are expected to be in tonight.
Here's a thought.......both goalies on the Stars will be UFA's next season (Turco and Auld). This Neal kid who's been putting up some decent fantasy pts for me will be an RFA.
Maybe Gainey could call his old club and look to deal here.......
We give them Halak, SK74 and BGL
We get Auld and Neal
I'm not a GM but if I were the Stars, (unless they got some top prospect goalie in their system or they plan on siging Nabakov in the off season) I'd be addressing their goalie situation asap.
I don't like dealing SK74. He is probably my least favourite Hab, but Andrei has been on a tear since little bro came back, and I don't want to piss him off.
-Dustin-
"The good thing about drinking during games is if they lose, you're too drunk to care during and too hungover to care after." - J.T.