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Dave Stubbs has been a sportswriter since 1976, which was roughly a decade after he wore the first of many holes through the knees of his jeans playing nets in road hockey (using a modified butterfly popularized by Hall of Famer Glenn Hall). He still has the welts to show on his shins from that rotten, frozen orange ball.
Stubbs kept thick hockey scrapbooks filled with game summaries and Gazette and Montreal Star stories, collected dozens of Bee Hive Corn Syrup photos and put a fortune of hockey cards through the spokes of his bikes. First book ever owned: Scrubs On Skates, the classic by Scott Young (Neil's dad).
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Knowing is Half the Battle...
Thanks Jabber, nice going. Now I have to re clean my house, Ha Ha
Im neurotic, now it's an even 1200
Richard R
Trade Halak. It has become evident that we need some more depth. If Gainey manages to get a top 6 for Halak, that might fill part of the Cammy hole and give us some much needed depth/secondary scoring once he returns.
So what? We'll lose most of the games with Price in the nets.
Richard R
when jacque martin gets fired i want muller as coach.
Yeah. Kirk 'is work' Muller. Couldn't have won in '93 without him.
Richard R
MAB isn't as Fab as we was when he first arrived. What happened? Coach screw up his head?
let the leafs have their day in the sun when their losing 1 zip every game because they can't score we'll have the last laugh. Toronto radio blowing up how a 20 goal scorer is easy to find on the cheap, they should look at their team the past few years easier said than done.
In HABS we trust.
Richard R
Michel Bergeron should be our next GM.
Get real. Blecch!
Itd be cool if Burkes action spurred some other trades elsewhere.
Just hold off on those parade plans for Toronto.
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"Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!"
Yeah if its the leafs its always with the negative spin instantly.
lets start a pool: it's called "Pick the date Phaneuf explodes on the Toronto Media" I chose Oct 25th 2010
Sucks that Cammalleri is injured, there goes one of out big goal scorers.
Anyone know if BG has any potential deals in the works? After what Toronto did today I want to see us do something positive instead of signing big contracts.
The Toronto Bulls vs. the Montreal China Shops.
i dunno... PK has an unreal ability to adjust to any level of play rather fast.
also he will be surrounded with veterans and won't be alone.
Unfortunately a goalie is all alone, but PK will have support
Two years in Hamilton. We need to stock our shelves both on the farm and up on the team.
I take it Komisuckas is going to be shouldering the scoring burden for the Laffs now?
As much as I don't like burke, you do have to respect the guy...he tells it like it is and when he says changes are coming....he means changes are coming. I like his proactive approach over our GM's patient and almost hesitant manner. (yes he has the cap to make moves, but Bob had that last year and stood still.) Ya I know Gainey made 11 moves in the summer, but he was forced into that situation, he never really made anything happen during the season as per his CODE. Now lets look at the trade for Phaneuf....now I know Dion has had a subpar last couple of seasons but he is still considered a pretty valuable assest with his size, toughness and shot. He's still a young guy and wants to prove to alot of people he can be the D-man he used to be a couple of years ago. Now TO gave up 4 players. Mayers, basically a 4th line grinder....Stajan, a 3rd line guy at best, average NHLer nothing special.....Hagman, marginally a top 6 forward, and white.....who I think is the best guy out of the 4. He's got a good shot, pretty steady on the D, smart and never complained when TO was sitting him or using him up top when all along he was one of there better D-men....anyway my point is Toronto never really gave anything up for Dion, I know they don't have much other than Kessel, Kaberle and Shenn, maybe Komi and Beauchemin....What I'm saying is I'd take Dion on the habs if it was only going to cost us Sergie Kosty, Gregory Stewart, Mara and Max Patch. I'd make that trade in a heartbeat. Dion is a way better D-man than Hammer, Spacek, Gill, Mara, O'byrne, MAB, Gorges. Basically everyone except for Marky. So with the scraps we could have gotten rid of to acquire Dion, I think Bob could have got it done, but once again hesitant Bob asleep at the wheel.
Shaker
I think you have undersold Stajan a bit. He be top six on most teams, including Calgary. Dion - by the numbers, is already on downside of his career with his best year behind him, an could be right there with Komi - except more overpaid.
Gainey's team is better than Burke's this year and probably next year too. You can have your Burke, I don't need a GM who tells everyone, including the fans, what he plans to do.
"On the downside of his career"....yes at 24 he is on the downside of his career. So I guess Price at 22 is also at the downside of his career with his rookie year being his best, and never being able to put up those numbers again. So let's cut him lose!!! Also, "and could be right there with Komi" except he can actually shoot the puck a hell of alot harder, can be a weapon on the powerplay, can skate faster, could actually tune MILAN LUCHEESE instead of getting tuned himself, will actually fight other teams tough guys and is younger. But who needs comparisons right? Komi does get hurt more than Dion, and I'll give Komi the blockshot leader. SO once again a bad comparison my friend. Sure, maybe the habs are better than the leafs, in your opinion, but for me we aren't too far ahead of them my friend. Proactive is better than reactive and BOB hasn't figured that out yet for some strange reason. And if he waits any longer Pleks will be gone as well. And for Stajan, how in the world would he be a top 6 on most teams? What does he bring to the table? He's a third line centre at best and nothing more in my opinion.
Shaker
jimmy, I agree wih you 100%. Knowing what Leafs gave up to land one of the premeir D man in the league makes Burke a genius. I am no fan of Burke, but he is extremely inteligent at his position. He did similar move in Anaheim to land pronger and in Vancouver he brought in the Sedin twins. I understand with this trade the Leafs have no offense but He got rid of bunch of unnderachievers. The leafs have a solid defense with Phaneuf, Kaberle, Beuchemin, and Komisarek. This also gives him the bargaining power to trade Kaberle for top socring forward.We are in no different shape then the Leafs with numerous underachievers in the lineup unfortunately our GM doesn't have the inteligence and balls to manouver such trades.
The premier Dmen in the league are going to olympics (with exception of Komi), Dion ain't one of them.
I would take Phaneuf on the HABS over all their current Defensemen with exception of Markov. He may not be having a good year but the guy is only 24 who plays hard every game. Bottom line is our GM is standing pat..
You must be a big fan of Gomez then. Because, I believe Dion has a 6.5 cap hit, which makes him just as overpaid as Gomez. Without moving Gomez or Hammer there is no way your deal makes sense for the Habs.
I don't think from Bob's point of view he would want to make this deal unless he was moving Hammer or Spacek in the deal. Mostly because of the cap situation.
Phaneuf's contract was six and one half reasons the Flames could not field a team at the end of last season when they had a few injuries.
Phaneuf was a Calder runnerup and finalist for the Norris in 2008 and is only 25. A puck moving defenseman with a mean streak is very rare. In his first three years he has scored 20, 17 and 17 goals.
Gomer? A career 20 goal scorer. No comparison.
Ask any GM who is more overpaid, Gomez or Phaneuf.
Not really fair to measure Gomez on goal production.
Gomez is a Calder WINNER, not runner up. He has 2 Stanley Cups, and Played in the same all star game. They are both equally overpaid. Gomez is not a goal scorer, he gets the assists.
There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey...
You've got a lot of points wrong in so few words.
So age and size is all that matters these days?
Not all but it's a big part of the equation.
He is not a strong defensive player, he has been regressing the past few years both in terms of play and stats. He is on pace for 33 points this year, MAB already has 28. Sure Gomez is "more" overpaid, but they both are. That was my point.
The normal yardstick for assessing a trade is who got the BEST player. Phaneuf is a stud. Leafs win.
Im with you on this one.
calgary will be left with more cap space in summer. Burke still has no offence but gets better defensively..edge to burke for now.
The true yardstick should be which team best addresses their needs. You can also add cap management to that equation. I think that I have to give Calgary the nod on both of those counts.
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Cheer for the crest on the front of the jersey, not the name on the back.
The difference to the cap is .317 million in favor of the Flames. Not a lot of money. Two of the players traded to Calgary are UFA's and one is an RFA. I think we can agree this was a rent a player deal for the Flames. Trading a stud like Phaneuf for rental players is very risky unless the Flames go far in the playoffs.
The true yardstick I believe is much more diffficult to assess. I would say that the final analysis can only really be assessed after one can see both the short-term and long-term impacts that the moves have had on either team.
I respect your POV but in the short term I see both teams winning something, but Phaneuf is the stud in the bunch.
1-0 for the Bulldogs over the Milwaukee Admirals, Max Pacioretty gobbles up a rebound puck to get his team the lead, I like it.
- I shall always remember Captain Koivu. http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/
The Bulldog game has just started, they said that D'Agostini has been recalled by the Habs today. Henry just pummelled Grant of Milwaukee, Max Pac just scored.
To you from failing hands we throw the torch, be yours to hold it high.
in phaneuf's interview every time he says: "i'm proud to be a maple leaf", it sounds like he is about to cry lol
He won't truly be a Leaf until he misses the playoffs and hits the links early.
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Cheer for the crest on the front of the jersey, not the name on the back.
I think he's choking back the bile.
Agree, somewhat... but it will be more like (at least) 5 years plus as opposed to 2 - 3 years of shitty hockey. Until the last 2 - 3 years, how long ago was it since Pittsburgh, Washington, & Chicago were considered REAL contenders? Pittsburgh about 15 years ago!
You are right that is how Chicago and Pittsburgh (especially) built their teams, but it isn't the only way: look at San Jose, NJ, Detroit.
year in and year out New jersey always feilds a competive hockey team, it makes me sick lol
our future isnt as dark as the leafs, dont forget we have Pk, Danny Kristo who looked pretty impressive at the WJC, and last years pick louis Leblanc, not to sure of his stats at harvard but hopefully he will transition into a great Center, and at least we have our 1st round picks....for now....
Kristo and Leblanc are 50/50 at best to make it to the NHL.
Have to disagree. Both lead their teams in scoring as true freshmen. Barring major injury, I think the odds are closer to 80% or 90% they at least make to the NHL. Remember must 1st round talent at least get a cup of coffee in the NHL.
For what it is worth - Leblanc is lighting it up.
Leblanc is PPG for Harvard, which is pretty good for NCAA hockey, it's not high-scoring there.
- I shall always remember Captain Koivu. http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/
For anyone who gets NESN, the Beanpot starts tomorrow. Harvard plays at 5PM, I believe.
More impressive considering leblanc and kristo are 18-19 years olds playing against seniors who are 23-24.
Dogs/admirals at 5 p/m.
http://atdhe.net/watch-american-hockey-league.php?s=madmirals
For some reason, the Ahl links never work for me.
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Try different borwsers. Are you using a Mac or a PC?
This feed uses the Windows Media Player plug in. You might be missing a codec or something. Sucks cuz the games are entertaining.
I'm using firefox. PC.
I can watch other stuff on adthe, just not AHL hockey.
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anybody watch the phaneuf interview on tsn.ca?? he doesnt look to be to happy about being traded :)
You leave a playoff team to go to a team that hasn't seen the playoffs since the lockout and aren't getting there any time soon, can you blame the guy?
- I shall always remember Captain Koivu. http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/
Can you blame the guy?
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"Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!"
Does he ever look happy?
relatives in Calgary say ..Dion has to big an ego for Flames d.room. He is always angry and not nice to be around hence time for a change not mention his boozing ways to.
Injury is part of NHL. Every team has injuries. The problem is that we don't have depth. We have rebuilt through FA. Our team will be average at best for the next few years. The only good prospect in our system is Subban.
TO is given up on this season. They started to shape their future team. Did Bob has a plan? Is his goal getting to the 8th spot every year for the next 10 years.
4 years
I want to go with 3 year deal ?
Four long boring years.
Burke is a Harvard man right? I think he still has a soft spot in his heart for Boston.
I agree. Great day for the Bruins.
Instead of all the back and forth over BG, can someone simply run the stats to tell me how many GM's have had a better winning percentage over the 7 years of Bob's tenure?
How many have ever finished first in their conference?
Question: What defenseman is gonna be put on the Pleks line?
Burke should get a piece of the HIO cheque based on the number of posts here. Could you imagine if Bob made a trade?
Like looking in a mirror...
Bruins fans PO at GM
lmao
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They do lknow they're getting Taylor Hall in the draft right? Talk about whiners.
- I shall always remember Captain Koivu. http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/
Not so fast. The Oilers may have a say in that.
----------------------------------------------------------- "Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them." - Sam Pollock
With the Oiler's luck, they'll lose the lottery.
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Cheer for the crest on the front of the jersey, not the name on the back.
Hahaha
Most likely.
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Hall, Seguin, whatever, they're getting a top 3 pick this year and next as Toronto will have trouble scoring about 150 goals total next year.
- I shall always remember Captain Koivu. http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/
The way the season has been going, we may be in the hunt for the top pick as well.
----------------------------------------------------------- "Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them." - Sam Pollock