Maxwell returned to Bulldogs

posted by Dave Stubbs at 12h02 EST on Mar 12


Forward Ben Maxwell has been returned this morning to the Hamilton Bulldogs. Suspended Maxim Lapierre, who sat out the past four games, is eligible to return tomorrow vs. Boston.




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linp's picture

I would like to find ways to move Hamrlik in the trade deadline to solve our Cap. issue. Mara will be gone. We have enough Dmen in the BullDogs to replace them. BGL's contract will be bought. The saving will allow us to sign Plekanec and a goalie. SK, Lapierre and Darche are cheap and can be kept. I would keep Moore instead of Metropolit because Moore is younger and faster. Moore is worth 1.5 mil. But Moore has a history of contract problem. With Subban and Weber arriving, we can pass MAB if he is asking for more than 1 mil.

All in all, moving Hamrlik is the key.


showey47's picture

I would love to move both hamr an spacek and look to add a younger,less expensive #3 left handed dman over the summer and make PK his partner for the next season. Moving both hamr and spacek with mara leaving as a ufa would free up 11 million dollars on defence. With some creative thinking and trading we can put ourselves in the kovalchuk free agency sweepstakes this upcoming summer.


Doctor Device's picture

Moving Hamrlik would not be easy because of that contract.  In all likelihood the deal would have to be something along the lines of:

Other Team Gets:  Prospects and/or picks

Montreal Gets: Rid of Hamrilk contract

Basically you need a team with cap space that can carry Hamrlik for a year in return for something that will help them down the road.  It's unfortunate in some ways because Hamrlik isn't completely useless (unlike certain others) but he's not worth his contract so ideally you'd like to get him moved.  Will be quite a feat if it gets done though.


TommyB's picture

Weighing in on the Lapierre talk here.  Lapierre is a RFA this summer, so no doubt he will expect some kind of substantial pay increase.  Obviously he can't demand a UFA-type increase, but he will be looking for a raise.  The question is, and I believe this will be considered carefully by Habs management, but the question is, are we better off with Laps and a pay increase?  or, are we better off filling his spot with someone else at a lower rate of pay?  Given the small amount of wiggle-room with cap space, I'd be a bit nervous if I was Lapierre.  He picked a bad time to put in a half-hearted season.


Ian Cobb's picture

True dat Tommy. We have some kids chomping at the bit just behind him.


SeriousFan09's picture

Lapierre has 687,500$ on his contract this year and as an RFA, is entitled to a 10% raise, so that puts him at 756,250$ this season, but he is arbritation eligible, granted there isn't much to negotiate with but he can't really demand a lot, nor is anyone going to put an offer sheet up for him. We can probably sign him that 750k-800k range without a problem I think.

 

- I shall always remember Captain Koivu. http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/


B's picture
If you are referring to a qualifying offer for Lapierre, it would be 105% of his $800,000 salary, not 110% of his 09/10 cap hit.

http://www.nhl.com/ice/page.htm?id=26366
"Players earning $660,000 or less will be entitled to qualifying offers (QO) at 110% of their prior year's salary; players earning more than $660,000 and up to $1 million will be entitled to QOs at 105% of prior year's salary; players earning more than $1 million will be entitled to QO at 100% of their prior year's salary."

Lapierre for Higgins, anyone?

Klondike Habs Fan's picture

Not a chance. I really think Lapierre will benefit from his pressbox experience. Watch the action, see what guys are doing well to win. And hopefully come back with a nice intense fire burning.

Go Habs Go


SeriousFan09's picture

Okay I have to say this.

It's nice that Darche has made the NHL this season and has contributed. But he is 33 years old, basically a career AHL player and doesn't go into the lineup of any team that is expected to contend for the Cup. He's gotten some points, shown some grit but he is playing at his absolute best and that makes a 4th-line NHLer.

Maxim Lapierre is 24, he came off a season where nearly the entire team was minus players, but he managed 15 goals, 13 assists and a +9 as a 3rd/4th liner. He was a PK expert, faceoff specialist, scored a pair of game-winning goals and had a hat trick in that season, plus some SO goals. He was awarded the Beauchamps trophy for most improved player by the local media.

Lapierre is about a decade younger and he has the potential to improve significantly if he recaptures his passion for the game he could be a key 3rd-line/4th-line centre for the next ten years. Can we say Matt Darche is anything more than a 4th-line winger in 3 years? I doubt it. He's a feel-good story, but what is his future with this team? Honestly people. Lapierre's having a bad season yes, but he was getting better before that very bad hit he gave out. He could come back better even, wanting to prove he belongs with Moore challenging him for a spot next year. He scored more goals last season than Darche has in all 120 of his NHL games.

The lack of fan loyalty around here is really wearing thin for me.

 

- I shall always remember Captain Koivu. http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/


B's picture
Lapierre has averaged .286 ppg and .139 gpg in his NHL regular season career (.187 ppg and 0 gpg in the playffs). Darche has averaged .275 ppg and .108 gpg in his NHL regular season career (no playoff games).

If you just want to look at one season, instead of choosing Lapierre's best season (08/09), how about this season where +3 Darche has averaged .47 ppg and .26 gpg, while -13 Lapierre has averaged .18 ppg and .09 gpg. I think many teams would be happy to have a support player like Darche with the production he is showing so far this season, not just Montreal.

Bottom line, Lapierre was very good last season, Darche has been very good this season and both are likely to continue playing their supporting roles for the remainder of this season. That is fine with me.

I don't think the issue is fan loyalty, if you sort out the 'hang 'em all high' comments that pop up. 

Your point about upside is a good one, buy why limit it to Darche vs Lapierre?  For example, Metro has had a good couple of seasons with us but what will he want - a couple of years at 1.5+.  I like him, but given the cap situation ... how much do I like him?  We've seen a lot of Bulldog forwards this year and none of them have a shine about them, so it may be that Darche at 650K for a couple of years is not so bad.


ManApart's picture

Lapierre had a nice year last season, but has limited potential long term. I don't find him really special at all. Down the road a guy like White, or JT Wyman or a ton of other guys can play the same role. Darche has played a lot better than Lapierre this year, thus deserves to be played ahead of him. If Lapierre doesn't perform his 3rd or 4th line role, by working hard, being defensively responsible and chipping in on the offense, which he hasn't, what's the point of him? There are a ton of guys around who are willing and able to do the job. So, if Lapierre goes, it's not like it's a big loss. he's easily replaceable.


avatar_58's picture
No lack of it here. I own a Lapierre t-shirt too. I like the guy and I think he'll help us in the future. Giving up on him for some UFA makes me really sad, it's just one more homegrown boy we've tossed aside. How many more are we going to see do better elsewhere? I still think Grabovsky was never given his chance...

Mattyleg's picture

I agree with you, Serious.

You're wasting your breath talking to the people that were willing to trade Plekanec last year for a 3rd-round pick in 2043 because he wasn't producing.

These people are the Trade Maniacs, and are best ignored. Put them in the same basket as the GMites, and push them out to sea and get on with building.

I am happy for Darche, though. He's producing when we need him to. Keep him around!

---Hope Springs Eternal---


Say Ash's picture
2043 will be a strong draft year - you should see my great grandkid skate one day

Good move, Maxwell needs the time and experience in Hamilton.  They should have a good playoff run.  Lapierre needs to come back with energy to spare, this is his chance to step up his game.  I watched him play in Hamilton where he made a difference, he seems to play stilted in Montreal only showing flashes of ability.  I am looking for better things from him, he appeared to be on the right track just before the suspension.


Mattyleg's picture

Yep, true growth takes time.

Make sure you read Captain Hab's post below. Good points there from Boucher.

Michael Del Zotto is a perfect example of what can happen to young players (especially D-men, for all you Subban fans out there!)

He came up and made a big splash at the start, lots of hits, points, key plays, you name it.

Points before Christmas: 20

Points since: 8

Plus/Minus: -21

That's not very good. Especially for a young player. This kind of performance shows that he has the skills, but not the staying power that you NEED for the long NHL season. Takes a lot of maturity, focus, and physical conditioning. Many seasoned veterans are half-dead by the end of the season, imagine how the greenhorns feel by Olymipc/All-Star break!

---Hope Springs Eternal---


Hammer's picture

The Habs should put Slappy Lappy on waivers. I  don't care if they get  a bucket of chicken for the guy. As far as I am concerned Darche has beat him out for a job. bring up a tough winger.


Bill H's picture

I am sure you were saying the same thing about Pleks last year.


Mattyleg's picture

oh please...

---Hope Springs Eternal---


Hammer's picture

Your'e right. i guess a bucket of chicken is a little steep.


Make it some McNuggets and you have a deal!


Harani's picture

It's just a therapy day for Markov! Phew~

"I gotta a feeling...that tonight's gonna be a good night!"


Ian Cobb's picture

Markov did not look himself last night. I thought that he may have an injury on the QT.


Shublips's picture

Habs were lucky to pull that one out.  Halak was great in the shootout but WEAK in regulation.  Price next game?

Read more:
http://www.habsaddict.com/2010/03/montreal-edmonton-plekanec-lifts-habs.html


I think Lapierre may be getting nervous about his position with the habs. with him out they win and guys like Moore and Darche are working hard...not to mention Metros play as well...I see him being traded in the off season...maybe to minesota lol....


CHsam's picture

For Havlat haha jk


Ian Cobb's picture

That's right captain a hab,, people forget that the jump from Junior to the pro's (in the A) is a large step. It takes at least two years to learn first how to be a pro, then to put it into practice for a full year or two. The next step is even a much larger and faster environment to find yourself as a young hockey player.

Just like everyone including me wants to see PK up with the squad, it will take some time yet. Bring these kids along slowly in the minors is the formula of developing them into strong players at the highest level.  Both physically and even more importantly mentally with great speed and confidence.

It takes great skill and patience to bring these kids along properly. Today thanks to Bob we now for the first time in many many years have great people in position  to develop these players throughout the whole organisation.

Ian


Harani's picture

MAGodin tweets that Andrei Markov is missing from practice? Only therapy day? What now?

"I gotta a feeling...that tonight's gonna be a good night!"


SeriousFan09's picture

Likely a bit of a lingering issue from his back injury before the Olympic break if I had to guess. Back injuries can be very troublesome and he'll probably take at least a couple more therapy days before this season is done. That or something to do with his tendon injury, it's been a tough year for Markov.

 

- I shall always remember Captain Koivu. http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/


rogieshan's picture

Like Maxwell and other top prospects in the system, Boucher himself should be given time "to grow and dominate" as a coach at the AHL level. If all the reports are correct, it sounds like he has a long future ahead of him once he arrives to the NHL. I hope he's patient and wants to coach for the Habs. It would be a shame to lose him to another team.    


TheDagger's picture

Was at the Flames game last night, I can't believe how much I hoped and prayed that the Habs would land Bouwmeester.  He looks quite insignificant out there.

"A month before the season I stop putting ketchup on my french fries." -Mario Lemieux on his off-season training.


CHsam's picture

and to think Sutter gunned for him and Jokinen, and threw $$$ at them


Ian Cobb's picture

Not a lot of ink spent on one of the most important and effective players that is on the roster every night and he takes a beating out there but never takes a shift off. Of coarse I am talking about Metro.

His line changes nearly every game and no matter who is playing with him he makes them better. He is a true every night worrier that plays for the crest on his chest with passion.

His determination and non selfish team play is infectious. We see this from the whole roster nightly. This club is so fortunate to have him.


I agree 100% Ian.  And yet there is zero talk about whether he will be re-signed.  He's 35 but showing no signs that he won't be able to continue to put up an effective 13 or 14 minutes per game for a couple of more seasons.  At a cool $million, I'd sign him again.  Leading the team in PP goals, a 50% faceoff man, and an even +/-.  And he gives 100% every shift.  Definitely one of the 'unsung heroes'.

"Maybe I'll play the piano." - Bob Gainey


Captain aHab's picture

Yesterday's La Presse had an insert in which there was a good interview with Guy Boucher. He talked about Maxwell and said that you simply can't make up for the close to 2 years he lost to injury. He said it'll take him time. He also had a good quote when discussing PK Subban: you don't grow a flower by pulling on its stem, i.e. let him totally dominate and learn the trade in the AHL before bringing him up too quickly.

Apparently Boucher is very much the bad cop down in Hamilton. Guys doing push ups when they screw up and stuff like that. The article also said that some guys do more push ups than he's asking for so they get it. He said his approach is to make sure that the work ethic he asks of his guys is always done with enthusiasm. "Hard work without pleasure becomes a chore, hard work with enthusiasm becomes a culture."

Another point he made was that he tries to have guys work at what he called extreme speed (I think he meant reaction time) so they don't fall behind when they hit the NHL.

Very very interesting piece.


Rudy's picture

Any chance there is a link to that piece on line?


Thanks for sharing that Captain.

From a leadership/coaching standpoint, Boucher really gets "it" in today's hockey culture.

Frankly, I worry about losing Boucher to another team (as a NHL HC) as much as I do any of the UFA's/goalies in the off-season.

It seems he is the next hot ticket AHL coach. I don't see any reason why he won't be a great one too.


pmaraw's picture

anyone looking forward to burke's annual mathmatically emliminated from the playoffs speach?


G-Man's picture

I fully expect Burkie to be bellicose and truculent, along with any other multi-syllabic words you can use to discuss a truly dismal laff season.

He has built a team to compete with the 70s Flyers. Too bad it's 2010.


SeriousFan09's picture

He will guarantee 200% more truculence for next season though!

 

- I shall always remember Captain Koivu. http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/


SegerHabs's picture

Ha Ha...remember all the guarentees about the Leafs having more points than the Habs after the Christmas break....not from Burke, but right here on HIO


SeriousFan09's picture

What's funny is one Leafs site actually did an analysis of all those games where the Leafs were really "truculent" and it turns out their winning record is terrible when they go for fights and rack up the PiMs.

 

- I shall always remember Captain Koivu. http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/