Skeptical on Sundin
posted by Mike Boone at 17h45 EST on Jun 25
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Submitted by Rooster on Thu, 06/26/2008 - 11:13.
anyways, it would be cool to have Sundin, but I'd rather us get a big Canadian/American forward, I don't mean to discriminate european hockey players, I love them! It's just Hasekh said it himself "European hockey players dream of winning a gold medal, North American hockey players dream of winning the stanley cup". I beleive I've heard rumours about a posibility of Spezza being on the block? Marleau is probably available too, if I was gainey I'd look at one of those two (preferably Marleau). Most habs fans would like to have marleau too, he's got good size (not as large as matts, but good) 6'2, 220 pounds. He's reliable on the PK, too. He would also cost us like only 6.2 mil. He does have a no trade in his contract though. SJ would probably want a defencemen + a good prospect (grabovsky? Perezhogin?) + picks (I'm guessing...) would be interesting if Gainey looked into marleau...Probably wont happen but you never know with Gainey.
Submitted by Habhopeful on Thu, 06/26/2008 - 11:16.
Marleau's no-trade clause only kicks in on July 1st, 2008...
"If I wanted to hear from an ***, I would fart..."
Submitted by Rooster on Thu, 06/26/2008 - 11:26.
so I'm not the only one that would love to have Marleau?
Grabovskys / Prezhogins speed would fit in REAL well with SJ, they have enough size, I think someone with breakaway speed can help them quite a bit, and save salary space to sign some players?
Submitted by Habhopeful on Thu, 06/26/2008 - 13:57.
Problem is , Perezhogins in Russia, and we would have to give up more than that for Marleau, Atleast one Proven NHL'er, A Rookie, and a draft pick...Marleau would be a good plan B considering the lack of star centers in the FA Market, But Wilson has stated hes been receiving alot of calls for Marleau's services but unless he gets something spectacular in return, Marleau will most likely be sticking around the shark tank...
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Submitted by Rooster on Thu, 06/26/2008 - 14:33.
That's true.
but Gainey can do one of two things then.
Sign a big named UFA winger (Jagr, Hossa, Selanne, etc...)
then he can move a roster player (kovy / koivu i'm guessing..most likely kovy...) + prospect / pick
Unlikely, but possible.
btw
a report from TSN says that the cap is going up to 56.7 mil
If I am not mistaken people were saying just last week it was going to go up to about 55 mil?
that gives gainey almost 2 mil more to make some moves!
Submitted by twocents on Thu, 06/26/2008 - 11:30.
I also think that Marleau would be a great plan B.
Submitted by coutNY on Thu, 06/26/2008 - 13:47.
So thats where you were going with making Kovy expendable.....;)
Alexei Kovalev, MTL has a NTC which intails that can't be traded to any Western Conference team prior to 1/31/09 without his consent just an FYI...
Submitted by The Teacher on Thu, 06/26/2008 - 20:03.
so he could be dealt in February?
Submitted by twocents on Thu, 06/26/2008 - 14:02.
I have never heard about a clause like that in Kovalev's contract. Certainly could complicate things if that is the direction Gainey considers going in. Anyway, I am just suggesting there are potential reasons and opportunities to consider this kind of move.
Submitted by twocents on Thu, 06/26/2008 - 13:57.
Yeah, that's a scenario I could see BG pursuing. I mean the leadership qualities would be upgraded, we would lose a few goals but, with Tanguay and the further development of our younger guys I think we could afford the eight to ten less goals Marleau might score. We would be better defensively too. I also think the no trade clause doesn't mean this is not a possibility after July 1st. I think Gainey could offer quite a few reasons to Marleau to wave that clause. Especially, with Thorton there, Marleau might feel his leadership has been undermined. I also think Gainey might consider making a pitch for Modano, who is not as good of an option but would provide a lot of the qualities Bob is going for.
Submitted by Rooster on Thu, 06/26/2008 - 10:40.
I doubt the rangers will sign Sundin....Why would they even want him?
Drury + Gomez as their top two centres....Where would they fit sundin in?
Also there is no possible way they could sign sundin, and jagr, with all the other large salaries they have to pay.
so it's either sundin or jagr, I'm guessing they'll stick with their captain..
Submitted by coutNY on Thu, 06/26/2008 - 10:46.
One could argue Pleks and Saku are our top Centers? Sundin maybe an asset that provides the NYR something Gomez and Drury don't have... Size...
Anyway, I think they'll focus more on defense since they don't have any right now.
Submitted by Rooster on Thu, 06/26/2008 - 11:00.
That's kind of true, but Koivu would do well with Higgins, and Latts on the 3rd line (alot less pressure for him). Koivu is also older than Drury, and gomez, he cannot play the same kind of minutes without getting burnt out sometime during the season (hence why he always has a period of 15-20 games where he doesn't produce) less minutes a game = a more consistent Koivu. (by the way, the higgins - koivu - latts line was once our first line last year...how sick is it, that there is a possibility that our at one time 1st line will now be our third scoring line? ... That's potentionally 2 20 goal scorers (Latts + Koivu) and 1 25-30 goal scored (Higgins..) on a third line :D! Either way, the habs will be one exciting team to watch next year :D
Also, I doubt Pleks would mind playing between the "brothers K".
Also, if we sign Sundin, that doesn't effect any of our other players re-signing with us anyways...so it's not like Gainey has to chose between Sundin, or Kovy, Koivu, etc... (just using this as an example to relate to NYR's having to chose between Jagr, or Sundin)
Submitted by Drive_For_25 on Thu, 06/26/2008 - 11:44.
I would still like to sign Streit and that would not happen if we got Sundin. Even though he didn't perform in the playoff's and it killed our power play, he's still a great versatile player and was definately injured in the playoffs (along w/ Markov equaled no power play at all). He still has some stuff to work on but everytime he made defensive mistakes this year, he made up for it with outstanding offensive plays, i.e. the comeback in Buffalo. I know a lot of people on here could do with out him but I think he's a guy you want to keep around becuase you could definately do it at a very fair price.
Submitted by MathMan on Thu, 06/26/2008 - 09:50.
I'm not sure about what McGuire's saying in this case.
Sundin is well known for taking his time. Him not jumping on the offer isn't particularly meaningful for a guy who's infamous for being deliberate. Sundin doesn't jump on offers. That's assuming there was one. Darren Dreger says there's been no formal offer by Montreal.
And then Gainey's still talking to Sundin, which appears to be a slow process. He had his first real talk with him on Wednesday evening.
The other thing is that I'm really not seeing the hockey fit for the Rangers. Basically, Jagr would have to resign at cut rate, Sundin would have to resign at cut rate, they'd have to move Drury to the wing, and they'd still need to find at least two good defensemen to contend. Signing Sundin and Jagr to play together (especially with deferred bonuses that would count the next year) is a this-year-or-bust gamble, and the Rangers don't have the blueline to make a run. Frankly, for the Rangers to go back to their old tricks and sign the two old free agents looks like it would be about as successful for them as it has been in the past. Not that it will stop them, mind.
I'm not even convinced that the Rangers are in it from their end. All we have is Larry Brooks' nebulous sources, and I'm told he is, um, hit or miss.
Submitted by New on Thu, 06/26/2008 - 19:42.
If anyone can fit everybody onto a team, it is the Rangers.
I wonder if one of the reasons Sundin is taking his time is simply what happened the last couple years in Toronto. These guys are pros, they talk amongst themselves, and they know where the best places to work are; for a player, not a fan.
Watch Vinnie with his lifetime contract. In a few years some knob will be trying to convince him to walk away from it, or amend it. The owners always find a way to move you out when things aren't all sunny. Why should a player reward that with loyality, a pay cut, or whatever fans dream up.
It's all bucks and comfort level. And the fact that a segment of fans are not very pleasant people to deal with.
Submitted by Habhopeful on Thu, 06/26/2008 - 08:19.
Bouwemeester wants out of Florida...
http://www.thefourthperiod.com/news/fla080626.html
Rolston negotiations going nowhere...
http://www.thefourthperiod.com/news/min080626.html
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Anyone think Rolston could be a plan B if Sundin is not acquired??
I know Rolston plays on the left wing but He used to a Center and hes got good size, hes a little old but he still has the talent and the spark, 3 30+ goal season...Might be a little expensive but I think he could be a good back-up plan...
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Submitted by coutNY on Thu, 06/26/2008 - 10:48.
I would bet that if Bouwemeester is out of Florida, all the NY teams would be hot on it... especially the Rangers.
Submitted by twocents on Thu, 06/26/2008 - 08:31.
I think Rolston could be a possibility but maybe not plan B.
I honestly think Bob will not limit himself to just FA's. He will look to attain the player that best suits his vision for the team and if he thinks that player can be attained through a trade he will pursue it. He'll do that before he approaches a less ideal FA.
Submitted by Habhopeful on Thu, 06/26/2008 - 08:46.
I agree with the trade scenario But who exactly is expendable in our organization, who is worth of value to trade??I wouldn't mind giving away the draft picks because the time is now to go big or go home, and BG has said it himself...
"If I wanted to hear from an ***, I would fart..."
Submitted by The Teacher on Thu, 06/26/2008 - 12:58.
Kovalev
Submitted by sidhu on Thu, 06/26/2008 - 13:11.
Teach, teach, teach. I don't think it be wise to trade our de facto leader or consider him "expendable."
Submitted by The Teacher on Thu, 06/26/2008 - 20:05.
You think trading our "real" leader is :)
and Kovy IS expendable.
He's up for an off year on top of it all.
Submitted by twocents on Thu, 06/26/2008 - 08:57.
I think picks have value but, so does someone like Grabovski or some of our higher picks from the last two years. Halak would be attractive. I also think that with the addition of Tangay Gainey has positioned himself to move a roster forward if he needs to. I know this won't be popular with some but I think if the right center could be obtained he would consider Kovalev if the other team wasn't only interested in the future.
Submitted by Mike on Thu, 06/26/2008 - 09:10.
kovalev is not the one. He plays rw very well even though he is a lefty. We are short on rw. So i don't think him. Unless we get a rw in return.
Submitted by coutNY on Thu, 06/26/2008 - 10:57.
And there ain't much out there for RW at Kovy's salary and talent... possibily Alfie in OTT, but .02$ will argue that we could trade for our Franchise center and a decent winger to replace Kovy. Then I would argue no one giving up a great center for a great right winger... yeah we had this same discussion earlier in the day yesterday. Suprizingly there are a few out there that are with .02$ but while I don't disagree withhis logic, I do in the matter that I believe moving Kovy would be counter productive to acheiving a cup... especailly in the 100th year of the franchise.
Submitted by Ian Cobb on Thu, 06/26/2008 - 07:22.
Did we give T.O. our first pick just to talk to Sundin?
Do we get a pick back if he does not sign with us?
I never heard the whole deal
Submitted by drive for 25 on Thu, 06/26/2008 - 07:28.
we didnt give anything we only give something if he signs before july 1st
Submitted by The Teacher on Thu, 06/26/2008 - 12:59.
And definitely not a #1 pick.
Submitted by moeman on Thu, 06/26/2008 - 07:06.
magwire is a NYR fan. He wouldn't shut up about them being the best in the East to win it all. He also likes the sound of his own voice.
Submitted by drive for 25 on Thu, 06/26/2008 - 07:28.
mcguire is actualy very much a habs fan. he was born in montreal, grew up watching the habs, and brodcasted the habs for a few years. he also appears on team 990 everyday to talk about the habs
Submitted by Drive_For_25 on Thu, 06/26/2008 - 11:52.
McGuire is a "Habs Fan" who opens his mouth when something is wrong and when the team is rolling with all the same guys he was just ripping apart, he acts like he knew it all along and will still not say much good unless blatently obvious. Ex: Played Philly this year on TSN and whooped 'em in Montreal and he talked about every pass, hit, shot and cup rearrangement that Kimo Timmonen made all game. I've heard he's a Habs fan but to me he belongs in a padded room , along with some people on this site, so they can watch tapes from the late 90's and critcize the f**k out of the team because that's all he really likes to do.
Submitted by Habhopeful on Thu, 06/26/2008 - 08:21.
He's more of a Fan of everybody, basically a fan of hockey overall, But ya i think he could be a hab fan although hes never said who he really likes...
"If I wanted to hear from an ***, I would fart..."
Submitted by Blitzen on Thu, 06/26/2008 - 05:42.
RDS is saying that Gainey spoke with Sundin for 30 minutes yesterday. J.P. Barry says that Gainey explained to Sundin how he is his #1 target this year and how well Sundin could fit in and take the team to another level for the next two years. Sundin again said that he still hadn't made a decision about whether or not he would play hockey this year.
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Submitted by nightmare_49 on Thu, 06/26/2008 - 04:10.
Halak in search of a two year contract...la presse.ca...translated...by Marc Anyoine Godin... http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=fr&u=http://www.cyberpres...
Submitted by 24 Cups on Thu, 06/26/2008 - 05:58.
NM49 - I don't have a problem with that. Price also has two years left on his entry level contract so that would set us up nicely in net for the next two years. It would give us a competitive one-two punch and a fallback position should Price need more time to develop or get injured. Halak would still be an asset two years from now that we could move or keep. He's a far better choice than some of the broken down UFA goalies that are on the market.
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Submitted by nightmare_49 on Thu, 06/26/2008 - 06:43.
24 - I'm 100% behind the duo which will be the best tandum since Nabokov and Toskala and hope JFjr will be back in the GM chair somewhere in the NHL in two years or so but i doubt that.
Submitted by nightmare_49 on Thu, 06/26/2008 - 03:57.
Sundin a perfect fit in Montreal...the hockey news ...by Ryan Dixon..... http://www.thehockeynews.com/articles/16813-THNcom-Blog-Sundin-a-perfect...
Submitted by LL on Thu, 06/26/2008 - 01:55.
Tsn reports gainey never even made an offer yet. Weird how pierre mcguire says that.
Submitted by Chorske on Thu, 06/26/2008 - 02:02.
What the heck more do you want Bob to do? Offer to do his lawn? Walk his dog for him? Maybe put a gun to his head?? What the heck did Bob NOT do to attract this guy?
If a guy doesn't want to play here, there isn't an offer in the world (and 14 million over two years on a winning team is a pretty effing sweet offer) that will get the player to sign. It has nothing to do with Bob and probably everything to do with Mats wanting to play in a city where the circus effect would be minimal.
Submitted by SmartDog on Thu, 06/26/2008 - 01:28.
You're right - stop whining!
Gainey brought us Hamrlik last year, just got us Tanguay, and he's going after bigger fish now becuase the time is right. And if he doesn't get another one, we'll have to do it another way.... last year we scored more goals than any team in the league. There are guys that want to come here - those that don't can miss out.
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Submitted by SmartDog on Thu, 06/26/2008 - 00:54.
You want to be like the Rangers?
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Submitted by teamplayer on Thu, 06/26/2008 - 00:12.
yeh i definetly believe the whole rangers talk, it is definetly their style to make the big FA splash of the summer and sather hasnt been talking to his own up and coming ufa's
ive been predicting the rangers for awhile
why are you guys talking about bringing chelios back? maybe i misread you guys and you were saying we need a chelios style player, yeh id take that, not the chelios.
Submitted by SmartDog on Thu, 06/26/2008 - 00:01.
From the TSN Fletcher article:
J.P. Barry and I had some discussions before we gave Montreal the rights to talk to him. "The reason why we gave Montreal the rights to talk to him (was because) they were the team from what we could gather, a team that Mats would always consider as an alternative to Toronto."
Sure sounds like we're as in the running as anyone. And sounds to me also like McGuire can't really know - and no-one else besides Mats can. There's every reason to think we're in the running. Who knows, maybe we're being played to get a bigger contract or maybe Mats IS actually thinking about retiring.
Yawn. Give this one a break... just stop telling me it's over one way or the other.
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Submitted by SmartDog on Thu, 06/26/2008 - 00:09.
AND... (dateline June 25 with interview with Sundin's agent):
Sources tell TFP Sundin has Montreal ranked high on his list, while he may decide to re-sign with Toronto. Retirement is also an option, although it's unlikely he'll go that route.
FROM: http://www.thefourthperiod.com/news/mtl080625a.html
McGuire likes drama - he doesn't know squat.
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Submitted by Corporate on Wed, 06/25/2008 - 23:30.
I think that McGwire is a great analyst. I have listened to him numerous times on the radio. Many people don't like him but I find he sticks to his guns and doesn't say what the public wants to hear... Unlike many journalists in Montreal..
As for Sundin... Let him walk.. I would love to have him but sometimes the best trades are the ones we don't make...
As for Chelios... I agree he is a warrior, but he also plays on a team that surrounds him well... I don't know how much punishment he can take with a team isn't as good on defense as Detroit...
I mentioned this on another thread.. Look at what happened at the deadline... People were cheering hossa and when we didn't get him everyone was bummed.. Same thing here.. People's hopes are being lifted when he doesn't seem very interested playing here, even for the centennial... We should look elsewhere..
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Submitted by gmd on Wed, 06/25/2008 - 22:40.
Do you guys think Gainey would pull a Kevin Lowe and do an offer sheet to an RFA?
Submitted by The Teacher on Wed, 06/25/2008 - 22:51.
too much class to do that.
Submitted by mjames on Wed, 06/25/2008 - 22:42.
Why in the heck would you forfeit your draft choices. Please explain that foolish strategy. Winners (Detroit) don't do that.
mjames
Submitted by gmd on Wed, 06/25/2008 - 22:54.
I guess it would depend, foolish like Lowe and desperate, so I can't see Gainey doing that. Or you feel that your team has depth, and you have good players coming up and could maybe afford to miss out on a few draft picks in order to get a player you want.
Submitted by jody1974 on Wed, 06/25/2008 - 22:26.
Time everyone on here starts the bring back Chris Chelios for our Cup drive next year....
Common everyone lets go " Chelios .. Chelios .. Chelios..
Submitted by nightmare_49 on Wed, 06/25/2008 - 22:48.
jody 1974 - Detroit close to signing Ex Hab Chelios... Detroit Free Press... http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080625/SPORTS05/806250...
Submitted by The Teacher on Wed, 06/25/2008 - 22:52.
jody is my buddy just for your info ;)
you might not want to talk to him either LMAO
wait...maybe he's not my buddy, uh oh...LMAO
Submitted by TommyB on Wed, 06/25/2008 - 22:29.
You got one bite two posts ago....don't push your luck.
Submitted by The Teacher on Wed, 06/25/2008 - 22:34.
It's the smart move.
Submitted by TommyB on Wed, 06/25/2008 - 22:38.
Wow.....and you're serious. Chelios, at what, 46 years old? Now I know it's time to call it a night.
Submitted by The Teacher on Wed, 06/25/2008 - 22:53.
Come on Tommy.
The guy keeps himself in impeccable shape. Been everywhere knows what it's all about and will keep the young'uns on their toes. I don't count on Kovy to do that.
Why would Holland want to resign him as our newspaper scourer NM pointed out?
Submitted by twocents on Wed, 06/25/2008 - 22:23.
I posted this this morning om a thread that was being abandoned. I wonder what people think of this possibility.
"Working from the premise that Gainey wants,"a centre like Sundin" and seeing that Brad Richards is staying in Dallas and Ribeiro has established himself there...does Gainey make a play for Modano? He's affordable (3.45 mill.), under contact for just two years, Gainey and him have a long relationship. You have to figure sooner or later Bob would bring someone over from his days in Dallas. Hmm..."
Submitted by yehaken on Thu, 06/26/2008 - 07:22.
Sundin is still good though. Modano has expired. Other names on the list other than Hossa might be Jagr, Demitra, Langkow, maybe Markus Naslund?
The Rangers are going to need to come up with some way better D, I would be chasing Redden if I were Sather. Sundin makes Drury your 3rd line centre. In a salary cap world I don't see that being worth it.
Submitted by filincal on Wed, 06/25/2008 - 23:21.
hmmmmm I like the sound of that. It would make sense for Gainey to send some of our lesser intangibles ie. dandy,grabs or something like that.
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Submitted by Gary320 on Wed, 06/25/2008 - 22:22.
Mcguire is not reliable.. When he does say something, its because hes heard Mckenzie say it.
Mcguire is a douche, hypocrite bandwagon jumper.
But that aside, Sundin does wnat to stay close to home in Toronto so I wont be surprised if its Rangers, but also if its Detroit, Habs, Ottawa (imagine that), Boston (I doubt)..
Submitted by mjames on Wed, 06/25/2008 - 22:47.
Detroit the armpit of US cities and that is going some. Somwhere between Calcutta and Bombay.
mjames
Submitted by MikeL on Wed, 06/25/2008 - 22:41.
I don't think McGuire is a bandwagon jumper at all. He takes very strong sides on certain topics, and most of the time what he says is different, but accurate. An example was how he talked about Huet and his weaknesses. No one else in the media talked about this stuff, but Mcguire did. I'm not saying he was totally right in his analysis, but he also wasn't totally wrong. Point being, he usually doesn't base his opinions from main stream thought.
Submitted by jody1974 on Wed, 06/25/2008 - 22:21.
Time everyone on here starts the bring back Chris Chelios for our Cup drive next year....
Common everyone lets go " Chelios .. Chelios .. Chelios..
Submitted by Gary320 on Wed, 06/25/2008 - 22:30.
Id pass. Chelios didnt even play all of the stanley cup finals. He has heart.. but I dont know if he still the same player that would be as efficent as a younger player?
Submitted by The Teacher on Wed, 06/25/2008 - 22:34.
P.S. he played all 3 rounds before and probably was injured for the final a tad.
I'm not looking for a young player, the point is a veteran to help the D.
Submitted by Drive_For_25 on Thu, 06/26/2008 - 00:06.
P.P.S He played pretty badly for the first 3 rounds before that and whether he was injured or not he wouldn't have hit the ice in the finals. And he probably was injured cause he's an old man. Give him credit for last year's performance but his day is long gone. I can't believe anyone is even talking about this on here!!
Submitted by Gary320 on Wed, 06/25/2008 - 22:39.
Give him less than 1 million and I say why not.. But I wouldnt go for over a 1.5 for a 47er. Wait till hes retired if you want him to help your D.
Submitted by The Teacher on Wed, 06/25/2008 - 22:24.
I agree, Chelios knows what it's all about. When you see a soon to be 47 year old busting his butt, hitting people left and right, you can be sure the rest of the team is going to tell themselves, "man we gotta step it up"
There won't be any passengers with Chelios on board, and hey! No Brisebois if he's here, that should be reason enough for you haters lol.
Only made 825k last year. Offer him a million and use him.
Submitted by sidhu on Wed, 06/25/2008 - 22:13.
If Mats doesn't come on board, we will still have significant cash to lure in quality players. I hope that we sign two UFAs - a top six forward and a top four defenseman. If we were willing to give Mats around $7m per year, I hope that we could sign Rolston (for about $5m) and someone like Rozsival, Jason Smith, or Marek Malik for about $3m. If we unload Dandy ($1.7m I believe) and Begin ($1.3m), we should be fine financially. (Begin is a tough energy player, but he's injury prone and our 4th line can consist of Tom the Bomb, Max, and Chipper. We also have Stewart waiting in the wings).
Submitted by The Teacher on Wed, 06/25/2008 - 22:33.
5 million for rolston? whoa...
Submitted by sidhu on Wed, 06/25/2008 - 22:35.
Too much? He's coming off three straight thirty goal seasons, is an assistant captain, and he's a gritty center. With salaries the way they are, I think $5m is about right. I guess we'll find out once he signs somewhere.
Submitted by Drive_For_25 on Thu, 06/26/2008 - 00:08.
When did 5 mil a year become the norm for a guy who just does what he's supposed to fairly well. Rolston is not worth that.
Submitted by The Teacher on Wed, 06/25/2008 - 22:37.
LOL, I guess we will :)
Submitted by The Teacher on Wed, 06/25/2008 - 21:59.
SAN JOSE MERCURY NEWS: David Pollak reports the Sharks are expected to soon announce the re-signings of Jeremy Roenick, Brian Boucher and Joe Pavelski.
Submitted by MikeL on Wed, 06/25/2008 - 22:15.
Yeah I seen that on the early evening Sportscentre.
Submitted by SmartDog on Wed, 06/25/2008 - 22:04.
Didn't that already happen today??
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Submitted by SmartDog on Wed, 06/25/2008 - 22:00.
Tepid on Tanguay?
For those of you who for some reason are not so hot on Tanguay, this short article should change your mind:
http://canadiens.nhl.com/team/app/?service=page&page=NewsPage&articleid=...
The guys' got numbers anyone would envy. And let's not forget HE was the one who wanted to leave Calgary. And he WANTED to come to Montreal. Given all this Sundin s##t, I have even more appreciation for this guy. And I can't wait to see him, his league-leading shotting percentage, good play-off numbers, and point-per-game performance in a Habs jersey.
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Submitted by sidhu on Wed, 06/25/2008 - 22:08.
Very impressive numbers. He seems like a class act as well, saying he would defer to Mats if he wants #13 and not demanding #40 from Max.
Submitted by The Teacher on Wed, 06/25/2008 - 22:01.
Didn't want to come last year, and only after he had a rough ride in Calgary and had a baby did he change his mind.
But I'll evaluate him as a Hab :)
Submitted by SmartDog on Wed, 06/25/2008 - 21:51.
Here's a question for those more knowledgeable than me about hockey contracts.... how come we have so many rookie RFAs? Seems weird to have all these new players already into RFA status. Is it because they were left on the farm a long time? Could it have been avoided?
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I will not be drawn into debates about Ryder... I will not be drawn into debates about Ryder... I will not be drawn into debates about Ryder... I will not be drawn into debates about Ryder... I will not be
Submitted by MikeL on Wed, 06/25/2008 - 22:34.
It really has nothing to do with the players being rookies. As long as the player is under 27 and has less than 7 years of NHL service, they will be RFA's. Many times when the player is trying to break into the NHL, the team will only give out 1 or 2 year deals (after the initial entry level contract), thus giving them a chance to prove themselves before they are eligible for UFA. This was the case with Locke. After his entry level contract, the team signed him last year to a one year deal.
Submitted by HNS on Wed, 06/25/2008 - 21:45.
The New York Rangers is where overpaid and under achieved players go to collect an overinflated paycheck with a let the other millionaire do it attitude, while hoping for corporate sponsorship. Good luck Mats.
Submitted by nightmare_49 on Wed, 06/25/2008 - 21:36.
Ex Hab Garth Murray was not extended a qualifying offer by the Panthers.... http://www.thehockeynews.com/articles/16825-Florida-Panthers-extend-qual...
Submitted by Mike on Wed, 06/25/2008 - 21:37.
aww. poor murray. He always played his heart out.
Submitted by nfldanchor on Wed, 06/25/2008 - 21:22.
I hope the Habs treat Tanguay better than they did Ryder!
Ryder moving on from Canadiens
Last Updated: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 | 7:08 PM NT Comments3Recommend6
CBC News
Newfoundland native Michael Ryder all but made it official Wednesday that he has played his last game with the Montreal Canadiens.
Ryder, who is from Bonavista, N.L., had two 30-goal seasons in Montreal, but he saw limited playing time in the latter part of this season. He is a free agent whose contract expires on July 1.
Ryder was in St. John's playing in an exhibition ball hockey game Tuesday night as part of the warm-up to the ball hockey under-20 world championships, and after the game he talked about his future with Montreal.
"I just want to play, to be honest. I want to go to a team that wants me to be part of their team and see me as a key player. I want to be in a role where I know I'm needed and where they see me in clutch times," he said.
"Last year, I never really got that opportunity. Next year, I'm hoping to go to a team that wants me to be that player."
Submitted by Xtrahabsfan on Wed, 06/25/2008 - 21:35.
The best part about the Ryder deal is ...WE DON'T HAVE TO ARGUE ABOUT IT Noooooooo More,it's like taking a thorn out of my eye,lol...Best of luck to him.
Submitted by Exit716 on Wed, 06/25/2008 - 21:28.
Does that mean Trent Hunter should have won the Calder Trophy in 2004?
He's the only one of the nominees that is still with the team he broke into the league with.
Submitted by SmartDog on Wed, 06/25/2008 - 21:28.
It will be interesting to see how Ryder does elsewhere.... very intersting indeed.
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I will not be drawn into debates about Ryder... I will not be drawn into debates about Ryder... I will not be drawn into debates about Ryder... I will not be drawn into debates about Ryder... I will not be
Submitted by Mike on Wed, 06/25/2008 - 21:23.
I wish him the best of luck. I'm sure he will do amazing!
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