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I could go either way on Streit. I don't think he's necessarily worth a huge pay raise for essentially one very good season. 62 pts is amazing but who actually thinks he could duplicate that again? I think his typical point total in 06-07 (a respectable 36 pts) is closer to what he can achieve consistently season to season.
I wasn't impressed with his 5-5 play as a D-man and having him play a 4th line forward role isn't something he wants to continue doing nor do I think it's good for the team to have him play a 4th line forward role. If only Streit were stronger on D then I wouldn't be undecided on his resigning.
It will be too bad if we lose him as he will be an asset to any team. The upside of it would be that it would force the Canadiens to develop different power play strategies. We were over reliant on Streit as we were on Souray as if our only play was simply to have Markov feed the puck to the right point for a blast. When this was taken away in the playoffs our power play was instantly neutered.
We can still use that strategy, especially if there is a guy in front of the net to put it in.
Streit has turned into such a offensive defencemen. For those who think he has done nothing. 62 points is more than enough. Many teams will go after him... We will probibly let him go, give some more space for the rookies comming up.
I don't think streit is out of gaineys plans just yet, if he was, bob probably would of traded his rights before the draft. Before anyone says he has no trade value, he was among the league leaders in points by a dman(as per ebk most of his points were as a dman) and powerplay points. If there is any doubt about the value of powerplay specialists, just look at what sheldon souray got from edmonton.
He just doesn't fit on the team. We already have 6 defencemen who play their parts better than Streit and we have 12 forwards who play their roles better. So unless he's willing to play part-time on the 3rd/4th line he will be going elsewhere.
12 Forwards who play their roles better?? Let me see. 3'rd in team scoring... 12 BETTER FORWARDS???
You lost me my freind.
Sorry. Still having trouble with this. So he finished 3'rd in team scoring. Lets count from 3 to 12.
Four
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Not that points tell all the story. But common. Why are we so afraid to like a player unless he scores more then a point a game. Look around any team in the league and only a couple of their players will score at a point a game IF THEY ARE LUCKEY. Show me how many Habs in the last decade have scored a point a game?
Please don't use the Habs as a comparison, we have had squat for a while.
100% right ... dont let anyone tell you otherwise
Streit is the biggest liability on D ... the guy is weak in the corners and has no concept of defensive positioning ... for every goal he scored he attributed to a softy on his own end (a present day Sheldon Souray)
Brisebois and Streit on D last year (perhaps the worst defensive pairing in Montreal Canadiens history)
he was way to soft , down deep getting hammered by other team forwards..let him go bob g.
"Brisebois and Streit on D last year (perhaps the worst defensive pairing in Montreal Canadiens history)"
Easy there tiger. What about any other stiff we had during the late 90's and very early 2000's.
Aparrently you didn't watch any hockey last year, let me fill you in:
Yes he struggled on defence last year AT TIMES, and at other times he did not hurt you one bit. Do you really think the guy would want to be a steady defenceman if he was "horrible" as you say? And as for the one dimensional comment, I guess I would have to agree that playing defence, then forward, then back to defense, all while playing on the number one power-play unit and contributing a huge amount of points is pretty one dimensional, right? I'm not saying we NEED him but we could definately could use him A LOT. He was listed as a defenseman last year where he finished THIRD IN SCORING! To say we don't need him is idiotic so I hope I brought you up to speed on what happened last year, get yourself a TV and watch next year cause if you don't see a #32 out there, you might find yourself missing him a little bit.
Apparently you didnt watch any hockey "before" last year, let me fill you in:
There was a guy named Sheldon Souray
Streit's 62 points last season were enough to put him third on the team. He had more points then Markov, Koivu, A Kost, Higgins, Ryder. I'm not saying he is a pro-star or anything but lets at least give him some credit. Most comments sound as though it's just some utility guy who we are letting walk so the next utility guy can poke along instead.
I hope we can resign him. He has improved each year and is important to the power play. He also can be used in all situations and usually makes good decisions. I can't see it costing a fortune to keep him.
Streit wants to stay in Montreal. He loves the team, city and the fans. He is versatile, and if we have a D Man go down to injury, he'll step right in. Honestly, I've seen Valentenko play in Hamilton and he's not ready to step in as the 7th D-man, not yet. Still has to play alot of games for the Dogs, he was injured last year.
Sundin, don't play games with our team. Either you want to play for the Habs or you don't. It's as simple as that.
Sign Streit Bob. Forget about Mats. His heart is somewhere else than Montreal.
"We will win the Cup only with Carey Price in the nets"
Streit is the biggest liability on D ... the guy is weak in the corners and has no concept of defensive positioning ... for every goal he scored he attributed to a softy on his own end (a present day Sheldon Souray) "sign Streit and not Sundin" I think you might be dislexic
I'd love to see the Habs sign Streit, players that good on the PP are not easy to come by. He will not be as easily replaced as some have suggested. He sees the ice well, makes excellent passes on the PP and has a big enough blast from the point. He played poorly in the playoffs but I believe much of that was due to him being injured.
However, if the Habs sign Hossa or Sundin, Streit is as good as gone. He will probably get in the neighborhood of $3.0m per season and the HAbs might not have that much $$ available for him.
His stats last season as a forward and defenseman
Forward 34-4-9-13-(+1)
Defenseman 47-2-13-15-(-6)
PP 81-7-24-34-(E)
If Streit leaves, what are we going to do about our powerplay? We will be missing that offensive defencemen to play the right point. And if Gainey said he has no intention of changing his top six defencemen, who does Carbo plan to throw out on the point who can actually get things done? Unless we sign Rolston and use him and his booming slap shot.
Didn't s.Kost play the point in a few games last year?
If Streit does move on, I think a forward will play the point on one pp wave.
I BLEED BLEU BLANC ET ROUGE!!!
habs-13 - If we sign Sundin, we will have a plethora of forwards to use on the point. I also see the overall dynamic of the PP changing with Sundin being in front of the net. You make a good point about a puck moving defenseman - we will need another one regardless of the PP needs. There are a few good 'mid budget', short term, choices out there but don't be surprised to see Brisebois come back if the money gets tight. He could well be our 7th defenseman again next year. The kids in Hamilton may need another year of seasoning.
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I'm trying to recall if tanguay played the second unit powerplay as a dman in calgary. I feel gainey will offer streit a contract if he fails to land sundin.
Tanguay has played the PP before as a defenseman and I agree with what you say about Streit.
Streit and Dandy are both good people who have served the Habs well but I can't see either one of them playing defense for us next season. They are both better suited for other roles. Streit is a specialist we can no longer afford and Dandy is a sub in our lineup who wants to be a full time regular. At this point in time it's doubtful either one will be with us come October. Streit will probably go to the team that loses the Brian Cambpell sweepstakes. Dandy may stick around if he can accept limited icetime, or he will be moved for a low round pick or future considerations. We owe him that much.
Both of these stiuations are a reflection of how much our roster has improved. There will be a few more departures at the end of next year as well.
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Streit excelled as a PP point man. Other than that, he was a bust. He isn't physical and is too small to play D against the league's top forwards. The fact he'll get 3 to 3.5 mil from a team like the Rangers just plain shows the irresponsibility of most GMs in the NHL.
For all of you out there who think Burke is the best GM out there: he bought out Bertuzzi, showing that he, too, makes BIG mistakes. Kinda like waiting for Neidermayer and Selanne until January, for bleep's sake.
Gilbert
I agree that Streit has character - he worked his butt off to get here (though most do). And with that terrific point shot he has, some team needing help on the PP will surely pick him up and probably be happy they did. And because of his PP value, he'll get a good payday.
But ultimately for the Habs I agree they should let him go - and I'm sure I wouldn't pay him what he's gonna get elsewhere. Defensively we weren't strong last year and when he was playing D (where he wants to play now) he was one of the weaker players and his plus-minus shows it. Even with as good as he was on the PP at scoring, watching him miss blue line passes in clutch situations was driving me nuts.
IMHO, this 'versatility' factor is over-blown. The fact that both Dandenault and Streit played the year up front and back makes sexy news stories, but these guys also lead our plus-minus on the wrong end of the equation.... and it's not like they were lining up against the other teams best - that was MArkov and Hamr and Komi. I consider this two-way player a failed experiment and think that Guy was just making due with what he has. And saying Streit was a leading defensemen in scoring (like you here all the time) is just misleading - he was a forward most of the time.
Regardless, it's a moot point because the Habs have obviously decided that he's not in their plans; their judgement seems to be that the 6 blue-liners they have are better or better value at least.
IMCO
~Listen to the smart dog!
Streit's point totals as a Defenseman(including PP)
9 goals, 40 assists, 49points.
i agree with most of your points but the fact is that over half of streits points came on the powerplay. I don't think many of his points came playing with begin/smolinski/tom the bomb/dandy....etc. Even though he did play most of the time forward, most of his points did come playing as a defenceman, either on the powerplay or on a regular shift as a dman.
Brian Campbell speaks out about his future... by David Pollack ... Mercury News .... http://blogs.mercurynews.com/sharks/2008/06/27/and-now-a-few-words-from-...
Thanks for that little item, nightmare. So family is very important to Brian...in Buffalo, family was able to come to the games often. Does this have "Toronto" stamped all over it, or what?
Tommy - Once Campbell signs with the Laffs, he can buy a cottage up in Muskoka. Prices there will start to drop soon due to the high cost of gasoline.
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