Déja vu all over again
posted by Mike Boone at 14h02 EST on Jul 1
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Submitted by habsfan1993 on Wed, 07/02/2008 - 09:01.
If we're going to follow the (appropriate) gambling analogy, you also have to concede that sometimes you just have to play for the river card. You can be smart and tactical up to a point. But if that's all you do, you'll never be the last person at the table. You have to occasionally make an all-in play for that all-or-nothing river card. And Gainey just doesn't have the guts for that kind of high-stakes play. As a gambler, and as a GM, he's overrated.
"Just because you are wearing a new Maple Leafs sweater, does not mean you make the rules around here, young man."
Submitted by FORD TOUGH on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 19:42.
Sundin a classy Guy? I think not!
J.P. Barry, has said that Montreal is going in a different direction! That's funny. Montreal was not until today I guess. This different direction came about today. Yeah Right!!!!
Both Sundin & Barry are CRAP. Gainey should have got the hint that Montreal was not on Sundins list when he did not want to meet face to face with Gainey.
SUNDIN IS TRASH................
Submitted by sidhu on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 17:48.
Chicago signs UFA defenceman Brian Campbell to an 8 year deal worth $56.8-million
Submitted by sidhu on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 17:49.
Campbell gets $7.1m per year. Wonder what Streit - another puck moving defenseman - will command.
Submitted by T-roy West on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 17:18.
Sundin's agent, J.P. Barry, has said that Montreal is going in a different direction.
Submitted by sidhu on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 17:25.
Rolston and Roscival would be fine with me.
Submitted by twocents on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 17:16.
I think Boone has opened a new thread at the top of the main page that he intends to just update. He has made a couple of additions so far. I am not sure though.
Submitted by Mike Boone on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 17:30.
Boone should have used the live-blog format for this, but it's too late to start now.
Submitted by ebk on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 17:52.
that Boone fella seems like a smart dude, he'll not make the same mistake twice.
Submitted by The Teacher on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 17:58.
LMAO another line of comedy is just fine :)
Submitted by mrhabby on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 17:16.
was just watching TSN .agent for sundin says HABS going in other direction on sundin.
Submitted by T-roy West on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 17:20.
David: I heard him say the same thing. I wonder what that meant.
Submitted by Connecticut Man1 on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 17:17.
Huh?
Submitted by Gary320 on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 17:10.
Lalime to Buffalo Confirmed.
Submitted by coutNY on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 17:04.
I am glad it was slow work day.... I wonder if 5 hours straight of refreshing is a skill I can bring to my mid year review. See yeah ladies & gents, I'll check back later!
Submitted by Connecticut Man1 on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 17:08.
Suddenly quiet on this thread. Did Gainey trade all of the other fans? heh
Submitted by The Teacher on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 17:13.
Mais non, Gainey is Chief sitting still.
Submitted by coutNY on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 16:54.
For what - We have plenty right now... not that we couldn't put it toward Halak salary, but we still have around $10.5 million free
Submitted by gmd on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 16:53.
Gainey has already said he won't buy him out.
Submitted by Robert L on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 16:55.
Yeah but we all know we can't trust Gainey. Says any *** that pops into his head. :)
Submitted by The Teacher on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 17:08.
LMAO too funny
Submitted by ebk on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 16:56.
actually they bought out two before last season Cullimore and a Finn who's name I won't attempt to spell.
Submitted by Robert L on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 16:59.
Salmelainen, Tony....too many vowels.
Leafs signed him to play with the Marlies.
Submitted by The Teacher on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 17:14.
The Finns have too many vowels, the Czechs have too many consonants, why don't we put them together in a box and jumble them up? ;) lol
Submitted by Robert L on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 16:56.
They bought out Breezer three years ago, but that's different, LOL.
Submitted by Y on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 16:50.
For what it's worth, Fan590 and Hockeybuzz repoting Laffs are talking to Redden and McCabe is bye-bye
Submitted by HabsFreak (not verified) on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 16:54.
They're stuck with McCabe. Whether he plays or not, they're paying him full salary. Redden can find a better situation then TOR.
Submitted by Robert L on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 16:53.
Yup, the pucking Leafs dog next door just confirmed.
Submitted by gmd on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 16:51.
How will they get rid of McCabe with his NTC? Buy him out?
Submitted by nightmare_49 on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 16:55.
Tell him to stay at home and pay him , Hardball.
Submitted by gmd on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 16:56.
I wish I could get that deal.
Submitted by Robert L on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 16:52.
They will sign Sean Avery and make him his room mate.
Submitted by Y on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 16:54.
That's too cruel, you don't want the guy killing himself now
Submitted by Robert L on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 17:00.
Would they ever butt heads!
Submitted by nightmare_49 on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 16:46.
We trade Huet for a 2nd round pick and now he signs with the Hawks for 22.5 million for 4 years , there's something wrong with this picture. Who got shafted?
Submitted by Chorske on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 16:59.
I think Chicago overpaid.
The question is, were we willing to pay Huet what HE thought he was worth, given that Carey Price was set to become a #1? The answer, clearly, is no, because he turned down 4 mil plus in Washington.
That said, we would've lost him today for nothing. Bob got a 2nd round pick for him. I think we did OK.
Submitted by Y on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 16:48.
Hard to say, but the Hawks have a very large headache in goal now.
Submitted by ebk on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 16:47.
shh, don't bring logic into it
Submitted by nightmare_49 on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 16:52.
ebk - I Love it. Habbie going somewhere.
Submitted by Robert L on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 16:49.
The Hawks offered us Khabilin for him only.
Submitted by TommyB on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 16:45.
On the goaltender situation....this coming year Halak gets a $350K raise, bringing him to $850K. The same thing Price will get this year. Price has one more year after this, still at $850K before he gets to negotiate. So, in a weird twist, whatever raise Halak gets, he will be making more than Price next year. No point to this, really, just kind of weird that your backup will make more than your starter. Of course, this is assuming both are here two years down the road. This is where I wish Gainey would be a bit more proactive contract-wise. If Carey Price shows this year what we are expecting from him, and puts up some really good numbers (or dare I even suggest it, we win the Cup), Gainey should get Price signed long term and not wait until July 1st two years from now.
Submitted by coutNY on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 16:49.
Would you going to give him the $1.35 million bonus Price got too???
Submitted by Robert L on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 16:51.
The NHLPA bonus clauses are only applicable to entry level contracts and contracts to players 35 years of age and older.
Submitted by ebk on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 16:49.
Price with bonuses, will make $2.2m for the next couple of years. $850k base salary
Submitted by Robert L on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 16:47.
As a first round pick on an entry level contract, he is eligible for all kinds of performance bonuses.
But, only if he quits smoking!
Submitted by Robert L on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 16:44.
Lalime is gone to Buffalo for 2 years.
Submitted by nightmare_49 on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 16:49.
Good move by the Sabres , now there's not much left.
Submitted by Robert L on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 16:39.
Oh my God, the dude on CKAC just asked Huet (live) if his contract numbers were logical!
Submitted by Y on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 16:41.
and what was the response?
Submitted by Robert L on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 16:42.
Almost dead silence....like next question!
Kind of an "Ahhh Oui" moment of perplexicity!
Submitted by Connecticut Man1 on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 16:45.
ROTFLMAO!
Submitted by Y on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 16:44.
I would've thought so!
Submitted by Gary320 on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 16:36.
Edmonton very interested in Hossa. Ready to give him a great deal according to RIS.
Submitted by Robert L on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 16:34.
Any goalies left?
Submitted by Y on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 16:42.
Don't forget Emery is still available
Submitted by Robert L on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 16:43.
He'll go to the Panthers with Martin and work on his tan.
Submitted by Y on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 16:45.
He doesn't need a tan ;)
Submitted by Robert L on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 16:49.
Ah, he'll fit right in!
Submitted by The Teacher on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 16:35.
Crappy ones
Lalime
Hedberg
Holmqvist
Aebischer...
Denis
and the like
Submitted by coutNY on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 16:40.
add Good old Thibault & JS Aubin
Submitted by Robert L on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 16:44.
Cross off Lalime.
Submitted by coutNY on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 16:35.
Halak
Submitted by Connecticut Man1 on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 16:37.
We are keeping Halak, no doubt.
Submitted by vaya_ on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 16:34.
possibly patrick lalime.
Submitted by Robert L on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 16:36.
Slim pickings.
Submitted by coutNY on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 16:29.
ALex Auld To the Senators
Submitted by Connecticut Man1 on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 16:43.
TSN: "Ottawa signs UFA goaltender Alex Auld to a 2 year deal worth $1-million"
sportsnet:
"Avg. yearly value: $1 million
Length of contract: 2 years"
Methinks that the TSN numbers must be wrong.
Submitted by Robert L on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 16:31.
Great, the Habs ate him up last year!
Submitted by coutNY on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 16:34.
I'm Still lost in confussion on what Chi-town is doing with HUET and Khabibulin. The salary alone is enough to make a GM puke.
Submitted by Robert L on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 16:35.
They'll have to buy out the Bullin Wall.
I thought he'd be headed back to Tampa, but I guess that it's Kolzig who'll be working on his tan there.
Submitted by Y on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 16:38.
That's going to one hell of a buy out.
Submitted by coutNY on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 16:46.
They're looking at a 4 1/2 million.... so basically they would have to get a back up in a slim market that would still cost them around 5 1/2 buyout included, If they can't trade him, they might have to keep him he's still better than any free agent out their they could get for 2 mill they'd be saving.
Submitted by Chorske on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 16:32.
That's Auld news
hee heee
Submitted by gmd on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 16:28.
Ottawa for Alex Auld.
Submitted by HabsFreak (not verified) on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 16:27.
What are the BIG boys waiting for? Sundin, Hossa, Rolston, Campbell?
Submitted by vaya_ on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 16:34.
money money money...
i figure the more UFAs get snatched up, the more value the big names get. if sundin gets signed, rolston's value goes up, and vice-versa.
Submitted by nightmare_49 on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 16:25.
On the New York Times site "SLAP SHOT" look what i found at 4:16 .... http://slapshot.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/07/01/free-agent-action-live-blog... that guy Boone gets around.
Submitted by Connecticut Man1 on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 16:33.
Funny comment over there:
"NY Rangers sign UFA forward Aaron Voros (undisclosed)
Let me be the first Rangers fan to welcome…um…who?"
— Posted by saget
lol
Submitted by Robert L on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 16:37.
Good one!
Submitted by Robert L on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 16:20.
CKAC, Demers says Mario is in Jagr's ear right now.
Submitted by HabsFreak (not verified) on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 16:22.
so no Malkin or Hossa? where's the cap room?
Submitted by coutNY on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 16:36.
Didn't you notice they all left for Tampa...
Submitted by Y on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 16:21.
Quick Bob! Get some Q-tips!
Submitted by Robert L on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 16:22.
Yup, open up rooms for Mats in NYC. I no like!
Submitted by Gary320 on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 16:15.
Kolzig officially to Tampa.
Submitted by Chorske on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 16:25.
We're signing Halak. After Huet, Theo and Kolzig, the market for goalies (esp one with so little experience at the NHL level) is going to cool off. The teams that needed goalies got them (although I dont necessarily approve of their choices).
Submitted by Robert L on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 16:26.
Emery and Ivory is still out there!
Submitted by Chorske on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 16:34.
Exactly. The market is officially stone cold for goalies, and Bob is going to end up sweet as roses yet again, signing this kid (who everyone around here knows is NHL caliber) as a BACKUP to a bargain contract.
Just another bold prediction based on sheer guesswork.
Submitted by HabsFreak (not verified) on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 16:21.
I hope we sign Halak and he's cool with being a no.2 for the contract.
Submitted by The Teacher on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 16:15.
Yup
Tampa Bay signs UFA goaltender Oleg Kolzig to a 1 year deal worth $1.5-million (plus bonuses).
News flash TSN- his name is OLAF.
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