Plan Z?
posted by Mike Boone at 17h47 EST on Jul 1
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Submitted by jody1974 on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 19:20.
Mark Streit signs with NYI
Avg. yearly value: $4.1 million Length of contract:
5 years.
Wow wow. Waste of money again.
Submitted by G-Man on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 19:38.
After signing a goalie for 15 years, does anything about this franchise surprise?
Gilbert
Submitted by jody1974 on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 19:41.
scary to just imagine how they cause damage to other teams with crazy signings.
would does that mean komi is worth to the habs? Streit will never put up these numbers again?
Submitted by The Teacher on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 22:17.
I think there is another habsattack...one that does not have a space in between the two words.
Submitted by Robert L on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 18:57.
According to TSN, it's Montreal, Toronto, and Vancouver in the mix for Sundin.
Submitted by lucd on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 18:42.
Why do so many fans here attack those fans who dare criticize Bob Gainey? Bob has failed...again. If one is not successful in getting the player you have set out to get e.g. Mats Sundin then you've FAILED. Bob announced that he was going for an impact player at the trade deadline and came away with nothing. Bob announced that he as going for an impact player just before the entry draft and has nothing to show for it. Bob's has made the team better no doubt about that but, when it comes to this part of his job he needs to improve. Shanahan? Briere? (he's the one who brought Samsonov here right?).
Submitted by sportsfreak_39 on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 18:54.
Woah woah woah, Shanahan and Briere both didn't want to come to Montreal period. Gainey threw the kitchen sink at Briere and Shanahan wanted to stay in the states.
Who says hes failed? Hossas still out there, same for Sundin theres no frontrunner yet.
Our team is better than last year and needs a tweak.
How easily people forget we came in 1st.
Submitted by mrhabby on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 19:10.
briere..glad philly has him what was he -20 for the year.
Submitted by Infanteer on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 18:52.
Why are so many fans fools?
a) Gainey does not / did not want Sundin for 10 mil.
b) Ref the Habs getting nothing at the trade deadline: The big "hope" on this site was that they'd get Tanguay. Mission accomplished, for much less that they would have lost at the trade deadline.
c) Briere? Would you have paid that much?
Submitted by Robert L on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 18:51.
Gainey has made one move today...and it is brilliant!
He is retaining a player who will be a star for years, and he got him at a great price.
He has not signed anybody, or overpaid for anyone to appease anyone.
Leadership, when it is done right, is not always loud.
Submitted by mrhabby on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 18:41.
the whole process sucks.frustrating to say the least. were all pissed because we are 1-2 players away from being a contender. we don't really have a packed team yet but we were hoping something big was going to happen right or wrong never materialized...what can ya do.
Submitted by sportsfreak_39 on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 18:55.
How are we not a contender, we finished 1st.
Submitted by jody1974 on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 18:38.
redden to nyr for 6 years @ 6.5 millon.
what a waste of money
Submitted by Robert L on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 18:48.
One of the most stupid signings of the day.
Submitted by Wamsley01 on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 18:50.
It is unbelievable, right up there on the Fingers, Commodore, Huet level.
Submitted by Robert L on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 18:51.
Less so for Huet, IMO.
Submitted by Wamsley01 on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 19:11.
Call me crazy but I think close to 6M on a 33 year old goalie who has never won a playoff round and has played 50+ games once in his career is insane.
Submitted by Connecticut Man1 on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 18:42.
Are the rumors about him being a problem child true? (forget where I was reading that)
Submitted by Wamsley01 on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 18:42.
Insanity
Submitted by G-Man on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 18:41.
Time for Streit to cash in. What do you think, 3 years at $4.5 mil?
Gilbert
Submitted by SmartDog on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 18:40.
Tired of trying to reason with you.
You're just a f-n moron.
~Listen to the smart dog!
Submitted by Infanteer on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 18:37.
Please see below. I've already dismissed such ignorance.
By the way, they picked up Tanguay at the draft. So Gainey has indeed done something.
Additionally, the Habs are a young team that grew a year older, gained a year (and 2 playoff rounds) more experienced. I'm sure Gainey realizes this, if you do not.
Submitted by LTHF on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 18:29.
Looks as if the Habs will be in the same boat as the last 2 years as far as free agents are concerned. Will probably end up signing players like smolinski and Kospo, solid 8 goal scorers. That from a team drawing 20T fans plus every game. Cant believe the teams that are outbidding them.
Submitted by SmartDog on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 18:39.
Based on the deals, most of the teams 'outbidding' everybody are desperate and for sure some of them are making BIG mistakes.
5 Million a year for Rolston for 4 years... if the guy decides to retire in two they're still on the hook for a cap hit all the way through.
~Listen to the smart dog!
Submitted by Infanteer on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 18:33.
They are "outbidding them" because they have the cap space to outbid them with. Look at the players the Habs will have to sign now, and in the next few years.
How would you like to be Komisarek's agent now? Fingers gets 3.5 mil from Toronto . . . how much would a league leader in hits and blocked shots make? 7 million? 8? 9?
Gainey has done well in not destroying the team for 2009-10, and beyond.
Submitted by Bill on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 18:25.
If Edmonton signs Hossa, I'm a monkey's uncle. I mean, seriously, it's Edmonton.
Hossa would be a decent pick-up, but the Habs really do need a center. Worth remembering that Marleau's no-trade kicked in today :(
Submitted by mrhabby on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 18:43.
money and opportunity thats all it is.
Submitted by sidhu on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 18:25.
I just got my replica centennial plaza brick, which I feel like chucking through the window of an unsuspecting motorist's car.
Submitted by Drive_For_25 on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 18:29.
??????????
Submitted by Moey on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 18:23.
I think there is approx. 2000 posts today from this morning, 1000 of them belonging to the Teacher.
Teach, you win hands down.
Submitted by Robert L on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 19:00.
Teacher was on a roll starting at noon!
Submitted by sidhu on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 18:28.
I bet most of them consist of "ROFL" "LMAO" "LOL" or the like.
Submitted by The Teacher on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 22:19.
Hey, can't help it, people were funny, gotta give them props.
Submitted by JB_15 on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 18:33.
OMG ROTFLMAO UR2QT
Submitted by Robert L on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 18:59.
FUFA
Submitted by skoehn on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 18:28.
as the most annoying of the day
Submitted by Rugger on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 18:23.
So no one throwing $$$ at Ryder yet? Maybe we can keep him cheap.
Submitted by Habs4Me on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 18:21.
What's all the panic for? Bob's trying to get Hossa as we speak and if he is not successful then he'll probably get back in the Sundin sweepstakes. And if no luck with that then i'm sure he'll make a trade for Marleau or Gaborik. Give him time, he's a genius not a magician. To those who call him down, you are lowlife idiots as he is one of the classiest and honourable gm's in the league.
Submitted by G-Man on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 18:32.
Right on the money, Habs4Me.
Gilbert
Submitted by Drive_For_25 on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 18:28.
I'll second that!!
Submitted by SmartDog on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 18:26.
Well said.
~Listen to the smart dog!
Submitted by Habs fan in SF on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 18:24.
amen! I can't wait to see tampa's firesale at next season's trading deadline.
Submitted by richie336 on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 18:09.
If you look overall at what the Eastern Conference has done today, only Tampa and New Jersey have really done anything of interest. Within the division, Ottawa, Buffalo and Boston have done SFA today. The Leafs wasted money on Finger and Hagman (how Finger got more than Hagman I don't know) so we should still be able to take the division this year.
Tha Habs will be fine. To be honest, If Gainey does nothing else in terms of free agency, I'll be fine with it because there is no one out there worth the ridiculous money they'll want.
Submitted by ccs on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 18:08.
So far Bob has made the right decision's. These players being signed to huge contracts is pure insanity. We are a better team than last year anyways. If Mats wants to join the canucks for 20 million go ahead but he will still retire without a cup ring. I would be hapy to land Laroque but he will more than likley get a 12 year deal for 5.9 million per season with a bonus of 1 million for every fight he wins. Let this insanity end.......aaahhhhhh.
Submitted by Josh on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 18:16.
No kidding. Today has been crazy.
Submitted by REB2 on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 19:34.
Good! I hope that means you'll get lost and let the rest of us fantasize in peace, without your BS diatribes!
Submitted by Infanteer on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 18:29.
You, my fine feathered friend, are an idiot.
You are exactly why Montreal has the impression among some as a poor city to play hockey: fans who are passionate, but ill-informed and maltempered.
The Habs have less than 10 mil to sign O'Byrne, Streit?, Ryder?, etc. or pluggers for the holes that they leave.
Do you suggest they spend that 10 mil on Sundin? Would you like to suit up on a Saturday night to take O'Byrne's spot?
I, for one, would not. The Habs locked up their most important RFA - AKost - for another 3 years (I would have liked to have seen longer). This was among the best - if not the best - signings in the league.
p.s. Is Habs Attack - in reality - John Ferguson Jr? Food for thought.
Submitted by G-Man on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 18:35.
Fine-feathered, indeed. Oh, well, the bird brains are out in force. You may be right, it could be JF Jr. !
Gilbert
Submitted by The Teacher on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 18:11.
You are donkey #2
Submitted by SmartDog on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 18:31.
LMAO
~Listen to the smart dog!
Submitted by Rugger on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 18:18.
Ignore the troll under the bridge
Submitted by The Teacher on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 18:11.
You are donkey #1.
I figure if you can repeat tripe, so can I!
Submitted by The Teacher on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 18:21.
You are Donkey #1
Submitted by sportsfreak_39 on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 18:11.
you know this how?
Submitted by Josh on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 18:06.
lol So many people getting angry. Some people need to relax.
Submitted by Drive_For_25 on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 18:27.
You are the biggest loser on earth. I guess that means you're a Laffs fan right. I'd love to "give you the finger". All this bashing you do all day long yet when this team performs well again you'll be front and center to celebrate right? Actually, you're probably such a loser that even if we win the cup in say, a game 6 or 7, you'll be on here posting about how if Gainey would've wasted money going for a "big name" player we would've won it in 4!! I feel sorry for you cause this is the best Habs team we've seen in awhile and you can't even appreciate it. Actaully, I don't feel sorry for you I F*&%ING hate you for making me waste my time just to write this.
Did I mention you're a retarded loser??
Submitted by G-Man on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 18:36.
Easy there, Big Fella! :D
Too nasty!
Gilbert
Submitted by Josh on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 18:12.
Let down by Gainey? Yeah, let's go ahead and sign Hossa for $11.3M/season for 8 years.
Submitted by Josh on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 18:27.
You do realize there's still RFA's that Gainey has to sign which will leave about $7-8M left? You need to relax.
Submitted by sportsfreak_39 on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 18:12.
Didn't Gainey win executive of the year awards?
Submitted by showey47 on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 18:08.
I don't think its alot of people getting angry its more just one poster from "laffinger" nation doing some trolling.
Submitted by Connecticut Man1 on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 18:14.
I am disappointed. But at the other GMs that have lost their collective minds. I am pretty darn happy that the Habs managed a decent upgrade in their already talented group of forwards.
Submitted by The Teacher on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 18:08.
Bingo bango bongo bungo.
He's a freaking donkey.
Submitted by twocents on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 18:12.
Is this person posting under several names or is there an evil triumvirate trolling about.
Submitted by The Teacher on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 18:15.
Your first guess is most likely correct!
Submitted by twocents on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 18:17.
Whose got that much time in their life for negativity? Sorry, just answered my own question.:)
Submitted by RiverviewCanadien on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 18:01.
Ridiculous Money = Bizarre Signings...
Submitted by snowdonsteve on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 18:00.
i'm not sure that rolston is a game breaker... a good player but not an impact player, if i recll properly Bob and the gang are after a 'impact' player... not a third line center !!! (imo)
in bob i trust ... until proven otherwise !!!
Go HABS Go
Submitted by jody1974 on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 18:02.
rolston is a quality player that mtl needed.
Submitted by TommyB on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 17:55.
Mike there is obviously enough schmucks to go around. Plenty here as well as on the radio phone-in shows.
Submitted by twocents on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 17:58.
Hey TommyB, you killed me on the other thread with the concussion line. priceless ....I laughed and laughed
Submitted by TommyB on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 18:01.
It was my pleasure !
Submitted by sportsfreak_39 on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 17:54.
Thats why theyre called schmucks, they know nothing.
Submitted by The Teacher on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 18:09.
You're probably the one calling cause you are a donkey.
Submitted by The Teacher on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 18:15.
Too bad you have Internet though!
Submitted by New on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 18:04.
What...couldn't find a phone?
Submitted by sportsfreak_39 on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 18:01.
Hold on there buddy, what has he done to this team exactly??
He built us into a contender, a perennial contender, under him we have consistently gotten better.
Submitted by sportsfreak_39 on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 18:27.
he traded ribeiro away for nothing
(Addition by subtraction, nobody wanted Ribs in the locker room)
robidas and beauchemin disposed of
(Markov, Komisarek, Hamrlik, O Byrne not to mention th fram systm devloping McDonuagh Fischer, Weber, Valen, Subban, etc.)
ruined price by trading huet when he did
(How did he ruin him, he bettered him by giving him playoff exprience, wait a year or two before making such a statement)
wasted ryder could have traded him for a player or pick but ate him instead and didnt even use him
(We needed scoring depth in case of an injury in the playoffs, most we could'v gotten was a 5th or 6th round pick.)
(he did nothing at trade deadline last year or year before except dispose of rivets contract. he did nothing in free agency last 3 years in a row now)
He is not stupid, he will not trade too much for a rental, or pay too much to a UFA, he knows how to manage a cap, he is smart unlike you.
Submitted by The Teacher on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 18:21.
You are donkey #1
Submitted by sportsfreak_39 on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 18:38.
(delete post)
Submitted by sportsfreak_39 on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 17:55.
Their cheap hockey team?? WTF are you talking about, we finished 1st last year and are a team on the rise.
Submitted by twocents on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 18:09.
Arrggghh.... you don't even have your facts right... and then there's your opinions!
Submitted by sportsfreak_39 on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 18:07.
Do you forsee us missing the playoffs within the next 5-6 years?
How is he cheap, we've been near the cap every year and Gainey leaves room for strategical purporses.
This is still a young team and coach who will grow together into perennial contenders.
Submitted by Smiss on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 18:05.
Speaking of schmucks...
Submitted by Connecticut Man1 on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 18:02.
"Their cheap hockey team"
It obviously isn't his team. We are the "Their" dude is referring to. I wonder which team is his?
Submitted by showey47 on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 18:04.
His team is the one celebrating the signing of jeff finger, roflmao.
Submitted by jody1974 on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 17:52.
poor bob.
seems he has a hard time getting his hands on a quality free agent.
Submitted by sportsfreak_39 on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 18:08.
you know this how?
Submitted by rswinter (not verified) on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 17:52.
plan z is to not ruin a team by overpaying for decent veterans or not veterans at all(Finger). Didn't chicago do this once with zhammov, daze, and khabbi. I'm going to love to see how they will resign toewes and kane in a few years with all this money strapped for the long term.
Submitted by vaya_ on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 18:07.
campbell is gonna give their forwards a much needed kick, but with 20 million spent on 3 guys you know they're gonna have to give up some stars. kane, toews, sharp, huet, campbell... wait till the kids get new contracts.
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