According to RDS, Canadiens general manager Bob Gainey is already working on a Plan B should Mats Sundin decide not to join the Canadiens.
According to Gainey: "It's hard to be very optimistic because we haven't had much contact with him. We haven't gotten the message that he is very interested by the Canadiens. We have a place for him, and on paper we offer him a nice option."
Gainey hasn't closed the doors on Sundin, but is concerned about his physical fitness since he has not trained during the offseason.
The Canadiens could be looking at trades with the Flyers and Blackhawks as an option should Sundin sign elsewhere. Both teams are over the salary cap and need to shed some players and payroll before the start of the season.
only a idiot with half a brain would turn up his nose at the chance to play for the Habs....especially this season.
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gaineys not a panic guy, i cant see him making a trade right before training camp.we picked up tanguay and bruiser george,roll the bones with what weve got and lets getter done!!
Gainey is just playing his poker face. I believe there is still a chance that Sundin is thinking of Montreal.
I think in this case a spade is a spade. Or something. I think that there has been no wrangling, no discussion, no movement, and I think Bob has only ever been honest with us. Contrary to what a lot of people say, Bob is pretty much a "cartes sur table" kind of guy. He wanted Briere? He said he was going for Briere. He wanted Sundin? He made a big splash of announcing it as the draft began.
I think he has a poker face during trades and such, but when it comes to free agents, he's pretty straightforward.
SUMMIT NEWS
WE JUST HAD ANOTHER FATAL ERROR ON OUR SUMMIT BLOG TODAY>
So here is todays news, we have a total of 81 people coming to the Summit
If you have not paid for your tickets on paypal yet, do so right away.
We have 6 tickets that have not been paid for, so who ever wants them, get in touch with myself or Robert ASAP.
Now that we know how many people are going this year, we will need to know who will need discounted hotel rooms, who will want to go on the Bell Center tour, who will be attending the pre game dinner (where we will auction off stuff, like a pair of season tickets, donated by Vicky, set of Gretsky hockey cards donated by Robert and much more that Chuck is getting from the Club) and who will be attending the after game get together.
Each Summit officer for each event will need this info so as to reserve a spot for you at each event. Stay tuned
IAN
Just to be clear, I'm donating a pair of my season tickets for ONE GAME. I'm nice. Not crazy. :)
Why the f**k are we waiting for Plan B now???
I kept telling eveyone that Putz Sundin was not coming ever even way back in March of last year!
This site is going to be a Habs inferno once he formally announces his intentions.
We should have signed Demitra when we had a chance as insurance. At least Demitra has character!
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Carbo little worries - his teams made .. radio canada ..... http://64.233.179.104/translate_c?hl=en&sl=fr&u=http://www.radio-canada....
What's on Mats Mind .. by Terry Koshan .. toronto sun ..... http://www.torontosun.com/Sports/Hockey/2008/08/27/6584206-sun.html
Sundin Holding up NHL Business .. by Bruce Garrioch .. ottawa sun ..... http://www.ottawasun.com/Sports/Hockey/2008/08/27/6582921-sun.html
Brisbois just waiting to sign with Habs - confirmation soon .. (french version) .. by Pierre Durocher .. journal de montreal ..... http://www.canoe.com/sports/nouvelles/archives/2008/08/20080827-064802.h...
Oh that's just too bad, I was hoping Breezeby wouldn't be in the lineup.
Damn..
Sundin Doubtful .. La Presse.ca ..... (french Version) http://www.cyberpresse.ca/article/20080827/CPSPORTS0101/808270679/5128/C...
Empty Netters .. by Seth Rorabaugh .. Pittsburgh Post-Gazette ..... http://community.post-gazette.com/blogs/emptynetters/default.aspx
If we trade for a center than I assume it's for second line (Lang, Marleau, Nylander) duty pushing Koivu to the third line. The trade would most certainly be prospect based.
What happened to the Lapierre as a winger experiment? (not that we need more wingers)
no offence but no one mention above is superior enough to bump koivu to third line center ( At least in my books)
Sundin yes....
Perhaps we can pull off a relatively minor deal in trading for Michel Ouellet, who is on the block. Let's say Cube and a mid-pick for Ouellet, yielding:
AK-Pleks-Kovy
Tanguay-Koivu-Lats
SK-Higgy-Ouellet
Kosto-Lapierre-BGL
Bench: Begin, Chipchura
Markov-Komo
Hammer-OB
JG-Carle/Valentenko
Breezer
sidhu - that's a pretty weak defense that you have listed there. No chance of winning the Cup this year with those guys on the back end.
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is it just me or did he only remove Cube, and add the two kids..
"sidhu - that's a pretty weak defense that you have listed there. No chance of winning the Cup this year with those guys on the back end."
Does this mean that WITH Cube, u think we will win the cup, but without we wont?
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Skotbot - No. What I've been saying for most of the summer is that we need another experienced defenseman to go along with the 6 guys we have on the present roster. Losing the Cube would therefore put us down two regular Dmen. We can't forget that our two goalies are just young guys who have never had a full year of playing in the NHL.
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Now that u mention needing another, I understand your post better.
However you now say losing the Cube, we would be down to 2 regular Dmen,
I think Hammer, Komi, and Markov would be top 4 in many markets..
and with Gorge and Obyrne in the wings, we got 2 up and comers.. so yes a 6th would be profitable, however at what price?
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Don't need another winger.
If we do make a move, I hope lang is not on the radar, im hoping, but very doubtful that we could pluck one of the good younger dmen from Chicago. If not, forget Carter, too expensive and neither team will trade any real valu since we play so often during the season, I think schneider would be the best fit, but would likely be a little expensive, and I doubt dandy would go the other way.
I think there are 5 other teams that probably are thinking similar thoughts about Mats right now. Just a feeling.
But while I think the forward is something to always look at, Mathieu Schneider in Anaheim is available. A former Hab and teammate of the entire coaching staff (save Jarvis) as well as Gainey. He'd fit in nicely in the team's top 4, giving a good puckmoving presence and big minutes on the PP. His cap hit is $5.75m.
Sure, Gainey has said he likes his D, but this would really stabilize the group IMO. I think puckmoving ability is a weak spot on the blueline.
We'd move closer to the cap, but come the deadline, we should still have enough space to make a trade for a centre. I also don't think Schneider would cost a lot... Anaheim is desperate to move salary and not many people would be in the market for a 38 year old d-man with a $5.75m cap hit. We might even be able to get them to take on Dandenault, although they might want to keep the cap space to re-sign Selanne if he's up for another go.
There was a push to sign Schneider two offseasons ago when he was a UFA, but he opted for the more competitive Anaheim and Gainey went after Hamrlik.
Too many young D-men who can break into the lineup for a too old and expensive Schneider.
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G-Man - you just hit on the secondary Hab debate that seems to be going on this summer outside of the Sundin saga. Do we bring in a green rookie (who may not be ready, but will add to Gainey's building program) to be our 7th defenseman or do we land an experienced 2nd pairing Dman who will help give us a realistic shot at the Cup? My betting is that we will split the difference and go with Brisebois. If we don't sign Sundin, then I feel it would be a tragic mistake to re-sign Brisebois and let the cap money sit on the table.
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For non francophone speaking readers, here is a translation of the article text and Gainey's quotes:
Gainey Puzzled By Sundin's Indecision
http://wwwrealitycheckeyesontheprize.blogspot.com/2008/08/gainey-puzzled...
Getting real fancy with that head pasting business aren't we.
Oh, did I have fun with that!