Good Decision, Sad Day

posted by Chris Aung-Thwin at 1h43 EST on Mar 10


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When I heard the news that Guy Carbonneau had been fired, I was – I’m a little ashamed to admit – ecstatic. I’ve always been a fan of Carbonneau the Player, but skeptical of Carbonneau the Coach. I was willing to be extra patient with bench boss Carbonneau – because as a player, as a captain, and as a Jack Adams nominated coach – he’d earned the leeway.
As a fan, it was hard for me to realize that Carbonneau had to go.
I can’t even begin to imagine how difficult it must have been for GM Bob Gainey to tell his good friend to go home.
But it was a decision that needed to be made – not just for the success of the team now, but next year and for years to come.

Carbonneau was a bad communicator. As a coach in the National Hockey League, one can’t avoid talking to players because of a fear of confrontation.
Gainey might say that he was “working with” the coaching staff when he intervened with Alex Kovalev, but he only had to step in because Guy Carbonneau wasn’t getting the job done. Gainey benched Kovalev and told him what to think about.
You can’t bench veterans and not tell them why. If you do, you lose good role players like Craig Rivet and Steve Bégin.

Carbonneau didn’t have a good system. He praised – and rewarded – hard work, but you can’t have an effective system if line combinations are being changed every game. Chemistry is an important part of succeeding in sports, and Carbonneau drained it out of that locker room.
Guy Carbonneau over-used Tom Kostopolous. TK has routinely been getting more ice-time than guys like Andrei Kostitsyn, Alex Tanguay, Chris Higgins, and your captain, Saku Koivu. I don’t even want to talk about using Glen Metropolit on a 5-on-3. Give first-line guys more ice-time and they’ll produce. Give guys like TK more ice-time and they’ll work hard some more.
Hard work is important, but a win is measured in goals.
If Gainey had let this continue – who in their right mind would come to Montreal and sign as a free agent this summer? Who, in the current roster, would stay? Every agent in the league is staring at Kostopolous and company out in the final minute of a close game and simultaneously calling their clients, telling them that even as a first-line All-Star, you’ll get less ice-time than the fourth-line muckers and you won’t get a chance to shine in the dying minutes of an important game.
You might not even get much time on the powerplay and you probably won’t have the same linemates from game to game, or even shift to shift.
People complain that Gainey wasn’t making Carbonneau’s job any easier, but Carbonneau was making Gainey’s job nearly impossible.
Gainey has done good things since becoming GM. He’s moved us out of the Dark Ages and into better times.
A few things he’s worked on since taking over:
  • After last year’s playoffs, everyone complained the Habs lacked toughness. GM Gainey went out and got the heavyweight champion of the league.
  • Gainey’s managed to get rid of toxic players like Mike Ribeiro and flame-outs like Jose Theodore.
  • He brought in fan-fav Kovy! Kovy! Kovy! for almost nothing.
  • He promoted Carey Price, an All-Star, to the NHL.
  • In the off-season, he gave the coach with the East’s best record an extension.
  • This year he made moves before the deadline to bolster his team and avoided over-paying on trade deadline day and he also avoided exploding the roster in order to make the necessary cap space.
  • After Carbonneau kicked Michael (23 goals and counting) Ryderout of town, Gainey managed to bring in Alex Tanguay.
  • Gainey has gone after UFAs like Brendan Shanahan, Daniel Brière, Mats Sundin, and Ryan Smyth but has either been shunned or wise enough not to overpay. In the 2010-2011 season, will we want Brière’s contract on the books? Will anyone?
Gainey has done a good job. He’s made tough decisions. None harder than firing his friend. It was the right move, a hard move, a sad move. Guy Carbonneau will always be a Glorieux.
He was a warrior who's determination and stubbornness cost him his job.
But his departure may mean that players will want to play here again. Let’s hope starting with the current roster. …
Good luck Guy. Get some sleep. Spend time with your family. Try and get some of your money back for those ties.

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Vid's picture
I was wondering why you don't do those "comment summary" posts where you take the best comments posted on the website and put them in a post. I guess there are a lot more comments now and it's hard to wade through all the bad and pointless ones just to find a good one with a fresh perspective and intelligent insight. I think what you did actually encouraged ppl to write more well thought out comments. Although whether this could help curb the number of useless and hateful ones that HIO has been flooded with as of late, well maybe not but worth a try.

Ed's picture
Great analysis of the situation Chris, & thanks for the link to Koivu. Great stuff.

Chris Aung-Thwin's picture
Dandy had some good audio too - did you hear it?

Ed's picture
I just listened to it. It's very interesting, & I notice he gave Halak all the credit for the 4 game win streak.

That was nicely written. I don't know if the Habs will be better under Gainey, but I suspect they will be. I don't see Carbo the coach that most of us do. I saw Gainey taking a frustrated team, and hiring a rookie coach to shotgun. I saw him take the responsibility for the season and get the Habs into the playoffs. I saw his captain nearly lose an eye to the eventual Stanley cup champions before the team went down. I remember Gainey rebuilding the team, each season stronger. I remember Carbo missing the playoffs. I remember Carbo blaming Kovalev and a couple others the next season, and Kovalev literally carrying that team to the East lead before Carbo hung his goalie out to dry in the press, and the team crumbled against a team they had a choke hold on, then collapsed playing Carbo hockey against Philly. I remember a perplexed looking Carbo not adjusting to the other coaches changes. I remember talent, unmotivated, and sitting on the bench when they needed the puck. I remember Streit, Souray, and Ryder leaving, hopefully for money. I believe this team is head and shoulders better than the one Gainey convinced Kovalev to play for, but it was in danger of missing the playoffs two of the three years Carbo did it his way. That isn't what Timmins, Gainey, Kovalev, and the others signed up for. I remember as well Carbo playing hockey for the Habs and he was pretty darn good at it. And that is the way I'd always like to remember Guy Carbonneau, as the player. The coach stuff, well Lemaire tryed that in Montreal, and he had the Swiss League first. Heck of a place to learn what you don't know.

Chris Aung-Thwin's picture
Well said. I hope people celebrate the long career of Carbo the player and not chide the short stint of Carbo the coach.

P St. Pierre's picture
Good post, Chris.

Garbo's picture
Well said, best "Other Wing" post I've read to date.

Chris Aung-Thwin's picture
Thanks Mega-Hab!

Habitant in Surrey's picture
Chris ...good blog at a difficult moment Habitant means PASSIONATE HOCKEY http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=423049

Ian G Cobb's picture
Carbo was a great player but a great player does not make a coach. A coach has to sell his plan to the team. This game has moved on and left Carbo's game that he played back in the station. With the new rules in this sport, it is a far different game, and Carbo could not adjust to it. He had no previous experience teaching, communicating and being a tactician leader. Bob is not off the hook all together,for not recognising that his friend did not have these skills before he was put in this position. We are a far better team than what Carbo could extract from each player. This call had to be made if there was going to be a chance to salvage this season. Get her done Bob, because you will be next if not. Ian

I'm really curious to know how you arrived at the conclusion that "Carbonneau was a bad communicator". Do you hang out in the dressing room before and after games? Do you have a direct line to some of the players who are known to whine and pass the buck when their game is not up to snuff? Seriously, how do you and everyone else in here know about Carbo's lack of communication with his players?

Chris Aung-Thwin's picture
No need to use my own breath on this: Ask long-time Montreal Canadiens Captain Saku Koivu.

aemarchand11's picture
Do we have to respond to this...? __________________________________________________ Please Beware: Maple Leaf products may contain traces of Lysteria.

likehoy's picture
carbo said it himself after the '06-'07 season. - does carbo bargain for the right Price before games?

habsfanonthewestcoast's picture
where have you been? Did you just get here? Watch any game lately? Do you read the news? Did you check the stats? Had a look at the standing?

For gods sake open your eyes,Gainey had to step in and talk to Kovalev.The second time in two years. He was your top scorer. Dandeneault sits and wonders out loud why. Halek stands on hishead and is told by muller that he is sitting in favour of Price The whole team has dialed the coach out ..they lost faith in him and there play showed it .. Time and time again carbo commented on the play of players in post game scrums ..stuff that was best said betwen coach and player away from the public eye three quarters through a season and the team does not have one set line combination

Before you tell me to open my eyes, perhaps you should open yours a little wider and read my question once again. Your reply has absolutely nothing to do with my question which, for your benefit, was how everyone knows whether or not Carbo is a good communicator. Your comments simply point out that he made bad decisions. Bad decisions do not mean one has no communication skills and certainly do not mean one does not use those communication skills. Now, if you would like to take another stab at answering my question...

zamboni's picture
Save your energy, if he hasn't got it yet, he'll never get it. Good post Chris.

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