posted by Kevin Mio at 11h39 EST on Oct 17
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Submitted by habsfan reduxit on Fri, 10/17/2008 - 19:59.
... boys, a word of advice. Ya gotta do something about the audio levels. In every Puckcast, Boone is clear, Hickey is alright, Mio is good, but you just can't hear or understand Stubbs. It's as tho' he's too far away from the mic ... always.

Submitted by Ali on Fri, 10/17/2008 - 18:54.
In what parallel universe is Chris Higgins a power forward? Bless him, he can no doubt be one of the best two-way players in league, good for 25-35 goals, and is very possibly the next captain of this team, but no one is gonna mistake him for Todd Bertuzzi circa 2002.

Submitted by Chorske on Fri, 10/17/2008 - 18:19.
I really don't get it. Undefeated in regulation and some of you eejits want to trade the captain for I guy I don't even pick up in fantasy pools because he's made of friggin glass.
Edit: RDS is saying this Gaborik rumour has legs. If Savard's firing is premature, what would you call futzing with a team that has clear chemistry? That is already generating offence? I'm hoping this is just hot air.

Submitted by Ali on Fri, 10/17/2008 - 18:57.
the good news: Bob Gainey is our GM, and would not be so classless to trade our Captain.
the bad news: if the team asked him, I have no doubt Koivu would waive his clause. He wouldn't want to stay where he isn't wanted, it's not in the mans nature.

Submitted by RGM on Fri, 10/17/2008 - 17:26.
Hate to say it but I think you guys are right about Kyle Chipchura's future with the team. He didn't really get a shot this season, but he did last year after forcing Carbo to send Lapierre down, and the staff just felt that he didn't make the most of it. Do you think that he'll be traded at some point in the near future so that he gets an opportunity to make it in the NHL? Or is he looking at becoming a career AHL'er?
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Submitted by georgesd on Fri, 10/17/2008 - 23:02.
RGM.
As you so aptly stated, he got a shot last season and didn't capitalize. Lapierre, last season, thought he had it made. Didn't get to play a single game until just before Xmas. BUT when he got his chance, he didn't lose it.
This year Lapierre believes a lot in himself and is showing it off in ea of the ist 4 games. Another aspect is that Chipchura didn't do anything that I'm aware of this past off-season to better prepare: i.e. power skating, face-offs, etc...
I got the impression that he thought Lapierre would simply give it back to him again. Didn't happen. Chips should have done what Laps did. When Laps was benched las year, he thought it out and decided to do 3 things: 1) lose weight and eat better; 2) go back to his game,i.e. front of net-size-hits-hands; 3) power skating training in off-season. I've been watching him closely, his straight away speed is MUCH better and his lateral movement is significantly faster-fast enough to lay the body on his opponents (12 hits in 4 games).
Chips should have done like Laps. Didn't. Probably too late now. I agree w Boone. There are many other teams who could use him. But he has to get back on his game if BG is to find a suitable destination for him.
We better get used to it. Players will have to earn their ice time-BIG TIME. This year there are no free rides. Not for a game, not for a shift. This is why Dandenault has played so far. He saw his chance, understood his attributes (speed, size, 'polyvalence' as we say in French, attitude).
Chips has to work on attitude first, make every shift count in Hamilton, beat out the competition (especially from Desharnais) and regain his confidence. When this happens, in Bob he can trust, he'll end up serving the needs of the appropriate team.
Georges D.

Submitted by Mike Boone on Fri, 10/17/2008 - 18:19.
I think he can play in the NHL ... but not for this team. He's just too darn slow, and lacks the compensatory attributes that Gui! has: size and good hands.
But Chipchura was a captain in junior and a the Worlds. He's a solid citizen, a hard worker, yada-yada. He'll never be an All-Star, but cripes, there are 30 teams in the league. Surely he could be a role player somewhere.

Submitted by Mike Boone on Fri, 10/17/2008 - 17:14.
Richard Labbé's take on Gaborik.
http://www.cyberpresse.ca/sports/hockey/200810/17/01-30207-pas-besoin-de...
His No argument in a nutshell: Gaborik is too expensive, too fragile, too selfish

Submitted by RetroMikey on Sat, 10/18/2008 - 10:59.
Funny, how the media calls the Europeans selfish in todays NHL.
Nope, I don't buy this BS from Labbe about Gaborik being selfish and fragile?
It is absolutely absurd when the media say that Europeans are taking jobs away from North American players as well.
Our team is blessed with a mixture of skill coming from the Europeans (Kovalev, Kostitsyn brothers, Pleks, Hamrlik, etc.) and the toughness and grit coming from the North American born players in Komisarek, Lapierre, Tom K, etc.
Judging by the pictures taken at the practices on the blog, the team has no cancer on the team but chemistry among everyone (I hope)!
If we have a chance to land the Slovak in Gaborik, he could be the missing piece for our quest for the Cup.
Kovalchuk from Atlanta is another guy I would love to have but I am only dreaming if he were to don a Habs' jersey.
I hate to see the Saku Koivu go but hockey's a business.
Here today and gone tomorrow, just like the real wotld.
"We will win the Cup only with Carey Price in the nets"
Submitted by HabsProf on Fri, 10/17/2008 - 19:18.
I don't know if anyone else has mentioned this, but if there is someone I would consider trading for it would be Kovalchuk. Alongside our playmakers, this man would challenge for the Richard trophy.
I know, he's not on the market, there's no talk bout him being on the market, he is under contract for next season as well as this one.
But Atlanta is still a pathetic franchise (though Little is looking good) and it seems to me that this time next year the Thrashers may be looking at the same situation with Kovalchuk as the Wild are with Gaborik. Even more, the Thrashers may not want Ilya - with the economy tanking, weak franchises like the Thrashers may be looking to slash payroll.
He seems like a long term target to me. He's actually younger than Gaborik and much more durable. I'd take him over Marian any day of the week and twice on Sunday.
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"Deserves" got nothin' to do with it.

Submitted by Mattee. on Fri, 10/17/2008 - 17:09.
Saku finally has good chemistry with his linemates, protection in Laraque, a STANLEY CUP contending team, and you think he' going to turn around and agree to being traded to Minnesota? Just so he can play with his brother? In the Montreal Canadiens 100th year? Please. This might be the closest he gets to a cup!
If Koivu wants to go to Minnesota, he'll do it after the season as a free agent.
I also dont see Gainey pulling the trigger on something like this. Primarily, because we haven't seen him make any huge in-season trades. Shipping Huet off is close, but it didn't exactly mess up line chemistry. And if there is one thing this team finally has, it's team chemistry which doesn't spark over night. Call me crazy, but I just don't see it. Not now anyways...

Submitted by Moey on Fri, 10/17/2008 - 17:24.
You;re right on all points, it's just pure speculation becaue his brother is there. He has a no trade clause, Bob can't pull any triggers without Saku wanting it, and I sure don't see that heppening this year.

Submitted by Xtrahabsfan on Fri, 10/17/2008 - 15:19.
8 mil a year,holy-$hit that's a lot of shekels.I will say this,he's a freek of a hockey player, he is only 28 and the idea is to win the Stanley Cup .

Submitted by RetroMikey on Fri, 10/17/2008 - 15:11.
How many Habs fans believed Sundin was coming to Montreal? Many on this site (but not me)
I would not be surprised if we get Gaborik in a trade sooner than everyone anticipates.
I'll be the first of the minority saying he'll wear a Habs jersey after the new year.
Bob Gainey is one smart man if he pulls this trade.
"We will win the Cup only with Carey Price in the nets"

Submitted by The Teacher on Fri, 10/17/2008 - 18:37.
Yikes!
My suggested overtime format and other sports talk

Submitted by j2c on Fri, 10/17/2008 - 13:56.
I really don't think I see Koivu being traded....maybe I just don't want to see him go after all he is our captain.

Submitted by Phil_T on Fri, 10/17/2008 - 14:32.
how does the saying go: There are only two institutions in Western civilization that truly grasp ceremony - the House of Windsor and the Montreal Canadiens. it would be really classless to trade our captain during this centennial year, unless he asks for it...
Submitted by vlamonde on Fri, 10/17/2008 - 15:06.
I absolutely agree. I'm a Koivu fan but still, it would definitely be classless to do such a thing. He's been here god knows how many years and the one year the Habs can actually possibly win the Cup, you trade him off? I mean c'mon... I agree with whoever it was in the puckcast that said it's an interesting idea (since he'd play with his bro) but man, that would suck big time. I'm kinda glad he's got a no exchange deal, at least he'd have the chance to put his foot down if he wanted.

Submitted by twocents on Fri, 10/17/2008 - 15:22.
All that aside, I don't see it from a hockey stand point. You don't trade the player who was your best center in the playoffs last year for a wing, where you are stacked. Moving Higgins to center is not something that should be undertaken at this level, now. In hindsight maybe they should have kept him there when he was in Hamilton or three seasons ago here, but this season, it's a big gamble. The Habs would be left with a hole to fill at center and Gainey's not going to do that this year of all years. Especially not for a player who is starting off the season on the injury list!!! uh-uh no way!
I am officially sick of these rumours. At least when we were yapping about the Swedish meatball we had little else to distract us. What does Gaborik bring pure offence on the wing and a left hand shot....we've plenty of that, others things we could improve on.

Submitted by Chuck on Fri, 10/17/2008 - 16:10.
bit·ter·sweet
Pronunciation: \ˈbi-tər-ˌswēt\
Function: noun
Date: 14th century
1: Something that is bittersweet ; especially : pleasure alloyed with pain.
2. The Montreal Canadiens winning the Stanley Cup without Saku Koivu there to carry it aloft.
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Submitted by Moey on Fri, 10/17/2008 - 17:20.
Chuck,
That would be awful, I don't even want to think about it.

Submitted by twocents on Fri, 10/17/2008 - 16:33.
Damn straight Chuck!
BG knows this better than anybody. Gainey is smart enough not to say this out loud too much but, he very much appreciates what Saku brings to this team and he's not about to do this. It would take a commodity much more precious than Gabby to pry Saku away. One that stands about 6'3", plays centre, scores thirty goals a year, throws his weight around and is respected by his teammates. Seeing that there aren't many fitting this description being dangled and Gabs only fulfills one of the criteria... it ain't about to happen.
Submitted by saku11saku11 (not verified) on Fri, 10/17/2008 - 15:21.
well the team is a business - but having said that - who has put up more points per playoff game than saku currently on the team???? that should put any thoughts of trading him to rest.

Submitted by nn1 on Fri, 10/17/2008 - 13:30.
Only in Montreal does the phrase "too early to panic" come up regarding a team that is 3-0-1.

Submitted by wd40 on Fri, 10/17/2008 - 16:04.
lol... yeah never too early to panic in Montreal. let it never be said we're not myopic.. err passoinate.. about our Habs! Thank goodness we're only 3-0-1... oh my gosh.. but we've already slipped to 13th place in PP%.
i totally get the Habs took their collective foot off the pedal the other night against the Bruins, but i dunno.. we came away with 2 points (fluke bounce off the boards).
Maybe i'll eat my words in April, but i think it's folly to lament the point we 'gave' them at this point in the season. The Bruins are not a bad team (and with Bergeron back and Ryder in the line-up, much improved in my view) but if that point turns out to make a difference in April, then we've got waaaay more to worry about.
As always, thanks for the Puckcast fellas.

Submitted by Chorske on Fri, 10/17/2008 - 13:47.
So true.
Submitted by nightmare_49 on Fri, 10/17/2008 - 13:27.
The test for athletes that Pat Hickey was talking about is i think an ecko-cardiogram (sonar test of the heart). He failed to mention Matt Carla's brother who was draftable but let all teams know he had to quit hockey due to an enlarged heart (cardiomyopathy) after taking teats at his young age.

Submitted by MikeL on Fri, 10/17/2008 - 14:06.
I believe I had an ecko-cardiogram before. They rub a probe like object on your chest which then shows the heart at work on the monitor. I remember seeing my own heart beat...very cool experience.
Submitted by nightmare_49 on Fri, 10/17/2008 - 14:33.
M L - That's the one , it's great when your heart is functioning correctly.

Submitted by Chorske on Fri, 10/17/2008 - 13:09.
Oh GAWD, let the mom jokes begin.

Submitted by wd40 on Fri, 10/17/2008 - 16:06.
hahaha :) poor Breezer can't get a break.

Submitted by Chorske on Fri, 10/17/2008 - 13:08.
Agree about letting games slip away- how many times did we blow a lead last year? It sometimes felt like the guys enjoyed shootouts so much, they'd play for one. That kind of thing will bite you on the arse, especially when the difference between first and eighth place can amount to 3-4 ties and SOL against conference opponents.

Submitted by Phil_T on Fri, 10/17/2008 - 12:46.
"My mom is more active than Patrice Brisebois" lol...was that Boone?

Submitted by MikeL on Fri, 10/17/2008 - 13:06.
yep

Submitted by Xtrahabsfan on Fri, 10/17/2008 - 12:44.
The game vs the Duck's is going to be fun"LAROQUE"heh heh heh.....

Submitted by MikeL on Fri, 10/17/2008 - 12:36.
I agree with Boone on Cheraponov. I'm not sure how Pat can say the doctors and equipment wouldn't have made a difference. They certainly made a difference on Jiri Fischer. The point is not whether proper equipment would have saved Cheraponov ....but how the proper equipment could have saved him.

Submitted by georgesd on Fri, 10/17/2008 - 13:36.
I believe that what Pat meant is that Cherepanov died immediately at the bench and no intervention would have saved him. Then enlarged heart the player had, if confirmed, would give credence to Pat Hickey,s p o v.
Georges D.

Submitted by MikeL on Fri, 10/17/2008 - 14:05.
I just didn't like how he shot down Boone's statement because he felt nothing could have been done. Without a defibrillator, yes he died immediately. But a defibrillator gets the heart going again, meaning he could "die" and then be saved. I just think it is way to premature too be making statements saying nothing could have been done. He is a journalist, not a doctor.
Bob McKenzie has a good piece on the situation and includes the Detroit Red Wings doctor's opinion on the matter.
http://www.tsn.ca/columnists/bob_mckenzie/?id=252684

Submitted by Mike Boone on Fri, 10/17/2008 - 17:20.
I didn't feel shot down.
Pat's wrong on this one.
Wouldn't be the first time.

Submitted by Chuck on Fri, 10/17/2008 - 12:15.
Boone! Speak up so that we can hear you! Dave... you too!
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Submitted by Mike Boone on Fri, 10/17/2008 - 13:26.
I speak softly and carry a big shtick ...







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