posted by Kevin Mio at 11h20 EST on Jun 2


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To the surprise of many, Canadiens general manager Bob Gainey named Jacques Martin as the team’s 29th head coach yesterday. Martin comes to the Habs with over 1,000 games of NHL coaching experience, something the team has not seen since the days of Jacques Demers. Now Martin must assemble his staff and Gainey must go about filling holes on the team with free agency only a month away.

Mike Boone, Pat Hickey and Kevin Mio examine the Martin hiring and what lies ahead for the new coach and the Canadiens. 

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habs12345's picture
random idea that came into my head since the marin hiring. looking at floridas roster you will notice that bryan mccabe has identacall stats too the highly wanted jay boumeester. from goals too assists too plus minus its exact same just 2 assists seperate them while mccabe averaged 2 minutes less per game. say what you whant about mccabe but he has the big shot and size that montreal could use. however florida doesn't have a gm right now but maby something can happen there

HardHabits's picture
You really need to use a spell check, especially after you've called people morons on other threads! Do you even have a clue what sentence structure or punctuation are? I've seen 3rd graders with better diction skills. WTF is Maby?!?!?!?! It's MAYBE. Interesting point about McCabe though! ;-)

habs12345's picture
i type very fast sometimes errors happen frankly i don't care if you aren't capable of reading what i write.

HardHabits's picture
Dude! It's apparent that I'm 10 times more capable of writing better than you can even read! Blaming typing fast is the lamest excuse I ever heard. I guarantee you I can type faster than you, more words, better spelling and puctuation and come up with a more intelligent argument. Go back to school before you prove me right! The gist of my attack on you, and yes I am going for your jugular, is that you calling people "morons" is moot considering your writing belies an IQ in the double digits.

habs12345's picture
i work on computer 5 days a week 7 hours a day for the last 10 years. i doubt you (type faster) than me like i said i really don't care what you think as you mean nothing too me neither do any of your lame points of view.

habs12345's picture
another thing you don't have too read anything i write as i from now on will try and ignore your posts as none of them have ever been anything positive. also you have no respect you've made fun of gaineys deceased wife in the past you clearly are a sick person and i will no longer be speaking with you or your sick ignorant kind. good day

HardHabits's picture
You truly have a selective memory. I never made fun of Gainey's deceased wife. I made an analogy about what he said to the reporter's wife and bread making, which in my opinion was rude, and the comment I made, I made without realizing she passed away and I immediately apologized as it offended people. My issue with you is that you run around calling people names like "moron" and then have the audacity to spell "maybe" as "maby" and you shoot people down without ever debating their ideas. I am glad to see I've touched a nerve.

123 - McCabe was used very wisely by DeBoer, seldom was he on against the top lines and Straskins, JayBo and Ballard took care of thet. We need a shutdown type 'D' to give our goalies a break.

habs12345's picture
yes i know very much about mccabes weaknesses and strengths but someimes you don't get the jaybows in life and you must settle with mccabes

JIMVINNY's picture
Boy, if a suspension weren't enough of a deterrent against head shots, this quote by Burke might be!! "There's no appetite for a rule change on that," Maple Leafs GM Brian Burke said after Tuesday's meeting. "We all think the existing penalties make sense and then, when a guy crosses the line, Colie bangs him" Poor Denis Gauthier. He isn't going to come out of his next hearing feeling too well...

Ian G Cobb's picture
Good game, nice to see the Pens take one but that wing machine is a super hockey club and play with so much experience, they are tough to beat. I have a question for you guys and gals. How many of our habs could make it on the Detroit roster if they could choose any of our players and who.??? My very simple answer is only 1--Markov! We have a very long way to go!

Xtrahabsfan's picture
Komi.Saku,Dandy,Tangay,Markov,Higgins,Plecs and Lapierre

dufour's picture
Possibly Higgins as well because he is responsible, works hard at both ends of the ice and with out the puck. He could replace somebody on the 3rd or 4th lines right now. I think Higgins's game is best suited for a Detroit style game. I think he should do well with JM tho,

habs12345's picture
For the price situation i am confident that if the canadiens are able too lure one of these 3 people too work with price that he will be better than fine next year and will quickly develop into the goaltender we expect him too be. 1 Francois allaire 2 Olaf kolzig 3 Patrick roy Gotta like the odds of one of the 3 coming here.... Or of course we can just boo him out of town or trade him for wade belak as about half the geniuses on this board have suggested the last few months ....

Ian G Cobb's picture
Only Allair is a teacher of the art of goal tending. The other 2 are just good at playing it.

habs4_25th's picture
Who is with me??? if Tremblay gets in as assistant coach, we get a petition going to have him banded from becoming a member of the Habs staff. "To you from failing hands we throw the torch. Be it yours to hold high."

gumper's picture
A guy I work with is friends with Jim Corsi, the Sabres goaltending coach. Apparently he's from Monreal, and would be very interested in the job. I wonder if he'll contact Bob. I don't know much about him, but Sabres goaltending always seems pretty solid, and the coaching staff there seems to have it together.

Habitant in Surrey's picture
...putting on my If I Was Bob Hat ...I would deduce that Jarvis and Muller have not made any impact ...and they are gone ...or re-assigned ...I would not consider Lemaire ...for obvious reasons discussed in the PuckCast ...Tremblay I would not consider because if things don't go well ...Mario will be a HUGE bulls-eye ...and distraction ...for any benefit he brings as an assistant ...fair or unfair ...Jacques Martin will be a meat and potatoes coach instilling a lost facet to Our Canadiens hockey of 2-way responsibility ...but We can also benefit with assistants that will address the extra-value of Inspiration and Character Mentoring ...don't know if Robinson is willing to return to Our Canadiens ...but I would try my best to convince Robinson to return for the Defence ...Mark Messier is itching to get back into hockey as a coach ...or management ...depending on conditions willing to get his feet wet as an assistant coach ...the Rangers obviously his first choice ...but I would try to discuss any interest he may have to assist Martin ...I agree Price needs tough love ...Eli Wilson may address a 'comfort level' for Carey ...but as an employee of Price ...my instinct tells me Wilson would not carry a big enough stick to demand Carey's full concentration ...I would await Francois Allaire ...Wilson a second-choice Habitant means PASSIONATE HOCKEY http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=423049

Puck Bard's picture
Very Good HS!

dufour's picture
Messier has never even crossed my mind... very creative idea. He wouldn't even have to say a word, his presence alone should be enough inspiration for any player.

HardHabits's picture
I think that because nobody here suggested the Tanguay-Koivu-Kovalev line or Jacques Martin as coach, that people are starting to think more outside of the box. I raised an eyebrow when Messier was suggested too. Very interesting!!

HardHabits's picture
Double post! Aaargh!!

HardHabits's picture
Triple post! Aaargher!!

Ian G Cobb's picture
Messier ah, very interesting!

24 Cups's picture
HS - interesting read. Robinson would be the perfect fit as our Dman coach as he commands respect and also had an handle on both aspects of the game in terms of defense and offense. He really seems to struggle with pressure and the limelight and I also wonder if there is still some bad blood left over from his playing days. But still.... Choosing Messier is certainly thinking outside the box! He may be too intense for Martin and Gainey but he would sure put some of our candy asses in their place.

24 Cups's picture
Finally got around to listening to the Puckcast so here's a few quick thoughts. - Pat Hickey doesn't visit the site often but when he does it's certainly worth the time. Always has a very realistic take on the team. Well worth the listen. - now that we have a French speaking coach, is it really necessary to fill out the rest of the staff with Francophones? - Bouwmeester isn't coming to Montreal and neither is Lemaire (as a consultant). Pat Hickey made that quite clear. - I have to disagree with Mike Boone on one point that he made. He stated that Montreal's main priority would be to rebuild the defense. I still believe we need to address the centre position before we do anything else. I know I'm a bit of a broken record on this point but I really feel it's our Achilles Heel.

Steve - Lets face it, we have young studs in nets and we were suppose to support them so they can develop and we never did. Two years now and counting people have been asking for a shutdown 'D' to no avail. Obviously a big center or two with an edge will help but lets solidify our 'D' first then try to solve the center problem which may take a long time cuz of the market. I often sound like a broken record as well as others on this site but you are still king and working hard to reinforce that claim, lol.

Captain aHab's picture
Agree with you on rebuilding...they should use their first three draft picks (at least) on the best available big C. You never know who might turn out great in later rounds. __________________________________ From Hell's Heart I Slap At Thee!!

HardHabits's picture
When asked on TSN Martin said the same thing, he felt the Habs biggest glaring weakness was at centre. Better to dress 5 centres than 7 defensemen IMHO. He also spoke of the confusion in the defensive zone though.

Captain aHab's picture
Not sure if anybody has posted this but Péladeau was quoted as saying the following on RDS: "Gainey could've waited 2 more weeks [to name Martin as Coach] and we could then have made a joint decision on this matter" Was this a slip of the tongue? God please anybody but Péladeau...everything he touches turns to crap. Wouldn't be long until all games are PPV. __________________________________ From Hell's Heart I Slap At Thee!!

HardHabits's picture
I can't believe his audacity. Have any dotted lines been signed yet? Even GG said that the transfer of the team and assetts would only happen around August or later! The worse part is he appears to be a meddler! I have to second your hope that he doesn't purchase the team.

mrhabby's picture
HH...My brother in -law used to report directly to Pierre Karl Paladeau as CEO of the Calgary Sun for 8 years. He hated every minute of it. Has run the Sun newspaper chain into the ground and is a huge meddler and ego maniac...i hope this never ,never happens.

mh - Is there a newspaper that's booming right now, but i agree on Pierre Karl as he's an A hole.

Harditya_CareyPrice's picture
Please Gainey please do not offer Komo more than 3 million dollars a year. Some people on this website said there are rumors about Canadiens offering a 6 million dollar/year contract!!! That is just..garbage. Why not let him walk away rather than spending 6 million dollars on someone useful on the ice. Wait from Price to bloom...it's his 'Prime Time' in 3-4 years.

dufour's picture
I don't understand why anynbody would pay Komi $6 mil. I think he is a good player, and I am a big fan of his, but if Robyn Regehr (best stay at home D in the league IMHO) makes $3.5, there is no way that Komi should make any more than him.

habs4_25th's picture
if he wants 6 mil. let him walk, sign beauchemin for 2-3 and we'll have a big stay at home defenceman who can hit for less. "To you from failing hands we throw the torch. Be it yours to hold high."

showey47's picture
How about instead of letting him "walk",you trade his negotiating rights. Perhaps trade our first round pick and komi to move up in the draft? Are you not tired of letting good ufa's "walk" every year and not get anything in return? I would also do the same thing to tanguay if he has no intention of resigning. This is what i like to call asset management.

TorontoHabsFan's picture
The only reason that a team would trade a conditional draft pick for the negotiating rights to a UFA is if there is a sizeable market for him and they feel that they can reasonably be guaranteed to sign the UFA long term. I have yet to hear any team other than NYI that is interested in Komisarek (well I have heard Philly, but they're in no position to take on more salary), so at the moment they don't really have to give up an asset (a draft pick) for no reason. Also, for the poster who said Beauchemin could be had for $2-$3mil/year...there's no way that he's signing with any team for less than $4.5mil/year. (and I have a rotten feeling that he's only using Mtl to drive up his value)

habs4_25th's picture
do you think that beauchemin would be up for a 3 mil increase in pay, I really don't know about that, but hey the bruins signed ryder to 3yrs@4mil/yr, or even Huets contract of just over 5mil/yr. I had read somewhere that Beauchemin wanted to come back to montreal, so we'll see. "To you from failing hands we throw the torch. Be it yours to hold high."

TorontoHabsFan's picture
I think that had he not come back and played great in the playoffs then he probably could be had for less...but the fact that he was a stalwart back there for Anaheim drove his value way up. as for the increase in pay - well Komisarek is rumoured to get a $4mil+ increase in pay...and let's not forget that good D Men's contracts are always a bit inflated (Jeff Finger, I'm looking in your direction ;) I really REALLY hope he comes back home - but the pessimist in me thinks he's using Mtl to drive up his market value (much like Laraque suggested would happen)

mrhabby's picture
showey...good thinking. Come on Gainey start thinking out of the box a little more.

habs4_25th's picture
Good call, if we could move up for it why not. maybe swing higgins and rights to komo to the islanders and our 1st rounder for theirs. "To you from failing hands we throw the torch. Be it yours to hold high."

Bill J's picture
Not a bad idea really... but I doubt the Islanders would do that for ONLY that Consider Komisarek is likely headed to the Islanders ANYWAYS.... Higgins is a worthy throw in because he is a RFA and if he signs with the Islanders we get some 1st rounders from the Islanders... something I would not scoff at either... NOW.... Say for example Komisarek & Higgins & our 1st rounder + Halak + something else.... The Islanders "might" be tempted... But to add Tavares and lose those 4 ? I say oh HELL YEAH!.... Want to close off the 100th ? Draft 1st overall John Tavares @ this years draft IN MONTREAL! lol I am dreaming of course... But it sure would be nice to see the Habs slide in & "steal" Tavares from under Burke's eyes... lol

habs4_25th's picture
True, but we can all dream. and nothing would be a better dream then to steal a higher pick than the leafs for sure. "To you from failing hands we throw the torch. Be it yours to hold high."

HardHabits's picture
Then the Habs can spend the rest of the 3 million on karate, boxing, kung-fu and wrestling lessons for Komo so that Lucic doesn't steal his lunch money any more!

G-Man's picture
Martin's contract matches the term of every US president. Unless, of course, he lasts until February, having "lost the room." This means a youth movement led by some capable vets like Markov and... well, let's make that a capable vet. The Habs need a high draft choice impact player or 3 and there's only one way to do that. Lose, and often. The present "nucleus" isn't capable of winning anything, anyway. They don't have the work ethic or the desire to win that is essential to success. Puck pressure like we've seen in the semis and finals so far are light years away from how the 08/09 Habs played, you would have needed the enhanced Hubble Telescope to see it. __________________________________________________________________________________ Beliveau is the best that ever was.

DOn't get to excited about which prospect the Habs will draft this year. Gainey is tired of prospects, that is why he traded the first rounder last year to the Flames. He will trade this years first round pick for either Nathan Horton or Jordan Staal.

I doubt they will let this years 1st go anywhere. There were many reasons they traded the 1st last year, Gainey thought Tangauy was worth it and that is what Calgary wanted, Gainey thought he had a better roster than he had and thought Tangauy would boost the 1st or second line immediatly. He had in mind tak'in a run at the Cup.Plus they were picking near the bottom of the pack. Different scenario this year they may trade player's can't see draft picks however.

Drive_For_25's picture
Can't tell if you like this idea or not but that is exactly what I'm hoping for. Like the idea of Horton but Staal is exactly who I was thinking of. Might need to sweeten it a little with the likes of Pleks or another prospect though.

habs4_25th's picture
I agree, Staal would be an awesome pick up for the habs if they could ever swing the deal. "To you from failing hands we throw the torch. Be it yours to hold high."

I am OK with it. This is how realistically (meaning it is impossible to get Getzlaf, Carter, Eric Staal, Malkin, Zetterberg, etc.) I would like to see the Habs down the middle this year. 1st line center - Marleau - reasonalbe salary, SJ looking for changes 2nd line center - Horton - Martin connection, Fl is frustrated with him 3rd line center - Plekanek - can skate, responsible defensively 4th line center - Lapierre - hard worker, big We have good wingers, with Martin coaching shoots will be down so the goaltending will be better. We will have cap space to work on improving the defence (sans Brisbois)

24 Cups's picture

Drive_For_25's picture
What do ya know, another writer who not only looks like a douchebag, he writes like one too. Why would you post this? How easy is his job to sit at a desk a ridicule people that do more in a week than he will ever accomplish in a lifetime.

24 Cups's picture
D25 - "Why would you post this?" Well I did use an exclamation mark and I just wanted to stir the pot!!!

D- Is it worst than the crap HockeyBuzz.com will be posting in the next two months or so. If you don't like it go to a candy coating columnist.

Take what ya need and leave the rest kinda scenario it's all good just don't insult my dog man he's my best homie!

mrhabby's picture

We'll go one better tomorrow when The Breezer signs for ten years at $750K per.

mrhabby's picture
10 years...awesome can't wait.

Lock up The Breezer long term and all the other UFAs will be begging to sign at a discount!

punkster's picture
A steal, for The Most Interesting Man in the World.

Stay thirsty my friend!

HardHabits's picture
I thought NHIC tried to peddle Don Cherry as the Dos Equis guy!

Ian G Cobb's picture
Next move should be Assistant coaches by Friday. Francois Allard -Goal ? - D James Boyd------Special teams, now coaching St Mike' majors in the OHL.the next Roger Neilson. ? -O

They might as well hire Wilbur Post as an assistant for all the good it will do them!

... If skating is the most important item at the entry draft for a forward look no further: Chris Kreider ... from Lighthouse Hockey ... In the paint-by-numbers nature of media scouting reports, "skating" is always a popular knock. But what about when skating is one of a prospect's obvious strengths? Enter U.S. winger Chris Kreider (#24 by THN, #14 among N.A. skaters by Central Scouting). In the wonderful anonymous lore of pre-draft hype, THN quotes one scout saying of Kreider: "He's not just the best skater in the draft, but I'm not sure there are many guys in the NHL now who skate better than this guy." Kreider threw up at the combine after the VO2 Max test, but "it should be noted that this doesn't weigh against Kreider in the eyes of the GMs. People generally see this as a sign that a player pushed himself to the limit." .......... from this article ... http://www.lighthousehockey.com/2009/6/2/896479/islanders-draft-party-ne...

24 Cups's picture
Bryan - half the guys at the combine threw up so it's no big deal. Kreider is one of the top 3 or 4 picks that will be available when we select at #18. If we get him, then it's another step to rebuilding at the centre ice position. I am convinced we will be getting a quality player this year in the draft who will help us out in a few years.

Steve - You are so itchy i think you would rush all our draft choices, relax and enjoy their full development.

PrimeTime's picture
You people sound like Leaf fans have sounded for years....wow, how far has the quality of fans dropped and the worst part is you're all too young to know it.

HardHabits's picture
We fans identify with our team. The quality of the fans drops as far as the quality of the team does! :p

citizenSanto's picture
So by your own argument, you are officially one lousy fan.

HardHabits's picture
According to Gainey I am not such a lousy fan, it's just that I got too many injuries watching the Habs lose (I always bang my head against the wall when they lose) and my psyche was tampered with (or is it Tampa'd) because I considering rooting for the Lightning!

citizenSanto's picture
did you injure your sense of humor this past year as well? It doesn't seem to be working at all.

The quality of the fans is still pretty high given the crap product that has been iced in Montreal for over a decade and a half.

G-Man's picture
Ah, quit horsing around! __________________________________________________________________________________ Beliveau is the best that ever was.

PrimeTime's picture
I havent read any posts yet but wanted to copy in this from The Globe & Mail. Brunt often writes about the Habs and is usually bang on with his perspective. He is a Media outsider looking in and arguably the smartest and the best sports writer in Canadian history. Love how he tosses a shoe at the local sports media. :) http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/habs-choose-orderly-system/article...

... Stephen Brunt is on Montreal's Mitch Melnick (Team 990) show every day, thus plugged in on the Habs. He is very good and not bias.

HardHabits's picture
After last year's merry-go-round DULL sounds kinda exciting!

Lets hope Martin supports going after the Sedin twins~!

Drive_For_25's picture
You can't be serious!! The Sedin twins would be the worst move this team has made in it's history. Waste 12 mil, at least, of cap space and have them disappear in the playoffs. Good call.

sidhu's picture
They want $6m+ each! No thanks!

Why don't they absolve The Breezer of all his defensive responsibilities and let him play forward? Let him work on draws over the summer and see how it goes.

sidhu's picture
Well, if they allow Breezer to play forward (he's a line all by himself), then okay... The Sedins may be light on D, but Breezer will score 50+ goals so it will be worth it in the end.

Last off-season Sundin, this one the Sedins. You say tomato and I say tomatoe!

sidhu's picture
What does Lafleur think about Martin?? Inquiring minds want to know!

Guy was quoted today as saying that it doesn't matter who your coach is when you have four fourth lines.

punkster's picture
Guy was quoted...check my post earlier...link to RDS http://www.rds.ca/canadien/chroniques/275798.html

Bill J's picture
Here is a roughly translated version of the RDS.ca article on what Guy Lafleur said... FYI google has this feature - it is quite easy to use - not perfect.... but offers a rough idea... http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http... Not that it really matters... Lafleur only talks about the Habs so that the Media lays off HIS personal life in the Courtroom.

The party is over? I don't speak French so I'm guessing.

punkster's picture
This paragraph says (basically) that Martin's experience, authoritarioan style and reputation... may serve him well in Montreal: "Lafleur a aussi mentionné au quotidien de Sherbrooke que l'expérience de Jacques Martin, son style autoritaire, sa longue expérience et la réputation qui le précède pourront bien le servir à Montréal." My French isn't great but I think that's close. Anyone have a better take on this?